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Summoning/contacting spirits and demons
Posted 09 November 2004 - 07:55 PM
Posted 09 November 2004 - 10:40 PM
to me a demon "in the ancient sense of the word" is any being of higher power than a human or other mortal life form but lower in power than the gods "aka Angels or Djinn"
to the ancients Angels and Demons were the same thing just depending how it acted towards you "good or bad" determined what you would call it.
so in this sense "yes".
Posted 27 November 2004 - 05:00 PM
Posted 29 November 2004 - 11:04 PM
I've only a couple demons however! From the arte goetia (Bael twice & Seere once), one Enochian Angel (HIPOTGA), and several other spirits that you won't find in any grimoire or tablet, and shall remain nameless for obvious reasons.
No contracts, with the demons anyways, just demands. I won't go into the specifics, but I was satisfied with both of the Demons, although Bael was a little insubordinate at first, until I learnt how to handle him properly, he was the first entity I summoned, and was a very poor choice for my first shot, but It all went fairly smooth the second time. After I was more diplomatic with him, he's to high of ranking demon to simply talk down to, although you should never let in, or be talked down to by a demon, sometimes you have to treat them, as if you were a king talking to another king, think of a medieval court room, and the way they addressed and spoke to one another, with higher-ranking demons/entities you want to treat them in this sort of way, you might desire to treat lowly ones in a similar fashion, but remember you are the superior here, regardless of ranks!
Er, yes. Sort of at least. It was done in my sleep. I imagined the entire ritual in my dreams and lo and behold, there becomes a demon! Before I knew it, I kind of just absorbed it! Ever since then, I've been having these visions and a severe case of scisophrenia. But, I don't want to necisarrily stop this invocation. My life has been particulary clear to me ever since. He's a good listener.
Hellion what you experienced was a type of magick that begins with an "O", I can't remember the name for the life of me, but if it comes to mind I’ll let you know. It also sounds like this could'ov been you meeting your spirit guide, or uhm, demon guide in this case, which are always there to listen, and lend advice. Magick also works on an astral level, if you ever get to a place where you can't practice magick, you can always create an astral temple to practice in! Anyways, that was sort'ov irrelevant.
Edited by Casimir, 29 November 2004 - 11:05 PM.
Posted 01 December 2004 - 06:24 PM
Dream sequences are a big help.
Posted 02 December 2004 - 05:00 PM
as I was saying the types of demons that can get into the dreamscape are typically lesser fear or other emotion feeding demons taking on forms fitting their nutrional needs in order to get the right emotion out of you. Or are much higher beings whose designs in the dreamscape are either to protect or are more darker.
But some can get at you from this world and interfer with your mind and/or body while you sleep and get in your dreams that way.
When it comes to summoning I see little reason to summon some maliciouse power as most seem to want to do these days. In fact I have a few well known entities I got aquinted with in the astral plane that I bother to summon from time to time when ever I need their help.
After all who would you rather call to do a job "a random number for that job from the yellow pages or a good friend that you know can do the same job?"
Posted 06 December 2004 - 09:59 PM
Posted 09 December 2004 - 06:29 AM
Posted 13 December 2004 - 02:08 PM
The only thing I've ever witnessed summoned was myself...One of my friends was in tears...She was deppressed and started saying aloud to herself that she wished I was there (Using the name only she called me)..Within five minutes I was at her door...at 2AM in the morning for no reason at all I'd just felt the need to walk around town at night and then go see if she was up...Considering that I live miles away and had driven and walked to get there for about half an hour before hand it's very odd...I'd never done it before. She got the fright of her life when she opened the curtains to see who was knocking..Stopped her crying. Not the only time I've been the unwitting centre of oddness either.
weird when that happens, When I lived at home I use to think my mother was calling me only to be told she hadn't but had actually just thought my name.
Posted 17 December 2004 - 10:20 AM
Posted 23 December 2004 - 12:59 PM
Posted 24 December 2004 - 12:47 AM
Have you ever made contact or summoned, lower demons, higher demons, spirits, so on and so forth?
Like a lot of people, I've screwed up before.
When I was very young befiore I had a clue about anything, I first did some things here and there. And being stupid -- ignorant -- I didn't think they worked. No immediate results....that I was able to see.
Later one time, sort of being overwhelmed by things that I felt but had no idea why or from where they came, I guess I got a little carried away by it and did soemthing extremely foolish. I had a lot of conflicting directions that I was moving in then. One side of me considered it the very end, soemthing to fight to the last. Knowing what was coming. The other, a new beginning, something to be welcomed. Hard to convey, sorry. In the confusion, I evoked the most powerful things I could think of then. gods, demons, your god, angels -- all depending on your views. To both act against me and to help me. I guess in a way I was externalizing my own inner conflicts. That is one way to interprete it. Two different things were to be. One that I would not wake up, the other something else. (of course i woke up) It wasn't so much meant to be a magickal act. It was more something I felt, something I sent forth. Just an expression of myself that I was sending out to whoever could hear. A declaration of sorts.... a cry for help maybe. To me, then, you could say it was like "speaking" to god. Asking for action. Which I guess I got... and am still getting. Someone in particular came to help me also, to sort of save me from myself.... and I guess I am forever indebted for that. Because I don't think I'd be here otherwise, would I?
It is easy to fail to evaluate our own actions fully before doing them, not even being aware of everything that we are involved in or inviting. Generally it will always be a good idea to avoid this mistake i think.
Posted 24 December 2004 - 01:00 AM
I am much the wiser now for it though so its a doubled edged sword of sorts haveing the experiences were themselves horrible "all though mostly just weird"
Even though out of all the spirits, poltergeists, and nightmares I have seen nothing was more terrifying or intrigueing than summoning my self "or rather the inner demon"
back on topic. I didn't answer the question in my first post so the answer is yes I have summoned demons.
Posted 26 December 2004 - 08:26 PM
Posted 27 December 2004 - 03:01 PM
Nothing really happened to curse my parents but I did have some visitors now and then when I went to sleep.
Posted 28 December 2004 - 12:15 PM
Posted 29 December 2004 - 04:30 PM
Posted 29 December 2004 - 07:45 PM
Posted 08 January 2005 - 03:46 PM
Hmm.. you're right this probably will give some people nightmares or something (like me! no matter what time I'm reading... I'll remember when I go to sleep! ) but could you explain how you do this? If you know how it's done?
I probably shouldn't say this "it might give someone ideas or nightmares for some if they are reading this late at night" but every last single shadow "so long as its dark enough" can be used as a portal if you know how.