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[Rhuen]

Basically what are your experiences and list some to help folks out.

to get the ball rolling.

Well, personally I have never seen a website I would call "best" they all have flaws and there are just so many finding one that doesn't screw up the mythology or basic elemental factors has been nigh on impossible.

but for worst, that is easy.

this site
http://www.spellsofm...pells/page.html

what makes it worse is its like a wikipedia of magic, it allows people to post their own spells. Maybe somewhere there are desent ones but a search through ten random spells revealed ten total failures in magic principles.

for three example:

listed on how to make a "psi-ball" was a psychosomantic effect of rubbing your hands together, apparently they mistook the numb feeling for a physical object,

listed for summong a faerie was something totally ascinine. While attracting faeries is fairly easy (no pun intended), its not so simple as putting out a bowl of sugar and saying "fairy come here, and adding on the wiccan catch phrase of power of three mote it be"

listed on summoning a succubus, this was a description of masturbation simple as that.

The site has tons of listings, but there is a thing called "quality control" if there are a few actual spells mixed in there they are lost among the numerous gibberish.

[TheUnknowable]

what do you mean by "magical principles". I've been to that sight but even to me most of the spells look like complete crap. the only entries that seemed to make sense were the meditation techniques.

[Rhuen]

I'll get to that after I post what I forgot to post what qualifies a site to be considered best or worst for magic.

1: The site must make the claim of being real
(in other words no World of Warcraft, Buffyverse, ect...lists of spells)


As for magical principles, magic always obey a few rules and has a few patterns.

The "spells" I saw simply lacked the spirituality, under-standing of folklore, and basic methodology of what was at hand.

The psy-ball one made no mention of true mental focus, excercise, and physical effects of manifestation. It was clearly reference a normal physical sensation.

the faerie one showed a lack of understanding of faerie lore, and is more likely to attract flies, and threw in the Wiccan chant just to try to make it look legit. Faeries are complicated things and it takes very specific things to attract specific types.


the succubus one, a succubus is a a high order demon which may also be a pagan fertility goddess. For one thing summoning one is not simple and would be a complex prayer ritual requiring a fertility alter. Even basic demons and low order nature spirits require ritual and symbology. You can't just lay back in bed imagine a pretty girl and jack-off. Doing that before going to be may result in a wetdream, but that is not a succubus.

[TheUnknowable]

Um, don't most of the spells on that site reference a TV show, book series, or other work of fiction? I don't know how many spells said "like harry potter" or "Like Charmed" (or power of three, which was mostly off of Charmed) or Twilight or something, Then there were all the "become mythological creature x" spells which, at most, would trick you into having the personality associated with one.

[Rhuen]

it claims to be real on that site. That's what qualifies it to be considered a "worst" site for spells.

The fact there are spells reference fiction yet claiming to be real is further damning on the "quality control" aspect for that site.

[TheUnknowable]

do you have an example as to what would make a good site? even if it isn't the best, that is pretty much the only site I could find with spells on it that wasn't donated to a religion.

[Rhuen]

Unfortunatly devotees to animism, druidic, wicca, and others tend to have done their homework better than most. Although trial and error and basing practices on folklore and mythology will do that.

But nothing is perfect, and I've never found a single website that wasn't for wiccans or something that had their heads on straight enough to be noteworthy.

[TheUnknowable]

Then how about one of them? All I found was a "satanic" website teaching you to make a black mirror for talking to demons, get them to do minor things for you, etc. Seriously, one of their best "success stories" was that a person's spirit friend had put out candles he left burning when he left for a flight. Such amazing power!

[Rhuen]

This one is (okay), albeit a great deal of (grocery store) spells

http://www.witchway....ual/ritual.html

I mostly get my stuff by reading between the lines in books about superstition and mythology and adapting it to myself.

Magic is meant to be personal, but obeys certain patterns depending on what you are trying to do.

Some references that can help with starting somethings.

*Faeries
by; Brian Froud and Alan Lee


*Dictionary of Superstitions
by: David Pickering

[TheUnknowable]

k, thanks.

[AmieNoire]

Are we talking about informative or commercial sites? Or both?

[Rhuen]

Any site that makes the claim the spells, rituals, or items are/have real magical properties.

So doesn't matter if they are telling you how to summon a ghost or selling you a magic stick, ect...

[Nepherus]

for me when it comes to this subject I just write my own it's much quicker than sifting through other peoples bull

[TheUnknowable]

for me when it comes to this subject I just write my own it's much quicker than sifting through other peoples bull

You need to know what you're doing in order to do that. I'm trying to learn from the sites.

[AmieNoire]

I don't get my info from sites. Even the teaching ones, like WitchSchool, feel iffy to me, or perhaps there's some residual post-traumatic shock from my early research days.

I do like Yahoo groups, though. Most of those I used to follow are gone now, but Witchcraft and Magic is still going strong, and the info is solid.

When push comes to shove, the best sites I've found are:

The Cauldron - great message board, especially its old incarnation, which is still available to read.

The Internet Sacred Texts Archive. The Book of Shadows section is absolutely brilliant. Some stuff is dated, of course (it's from the 1980s), but essays and recipes are timeless.

And, of course, GoogleBooks, where you can read loads of books for free. They are for 'limited preview' of course, but those are really quite generous. The preview of Ann Moura's Grimoire for the Green Witch is 280 pages, while the complete book is 360. You get the gist.

In short, research.

[Madfox200]

do you know any sites that are mainly for telekinesis and other stuff like that? i can't find any good ones. they all have stupid fake spells....

[KellyScarletRakoczy]

For real sorcery, I'd suggest going to Brother Moloch's site:  www.molochsorcery.com

 

Also. demonolatry.org is not bad.

 

The 600 Club stinks...a bunch of narcissistic Satanists with a very rude edge.  

[Renu]

While I realize that I may be slightly late to this thread, I believe that I may have found a relatively worth-while website if one is looking for more traditional grimores online: "sacredtexts.com" 

 

I'm still researching, and this thread caught my eye, so I figured I might try and help out..

 

Once again, this particular website has more of the traditional grimores and less of the contemporary titles. Most are pre-"new age" and therefore their methods are a little dated, but most hold some merit. I reccomend the skeptical study of the occult titled "The Book of Ceremonial Magic" which was published by Arthur Edward Waite and contains a varied collection of different esoteric texts through a somewhat scientific and skeptical point of view typical someone from the turn of the 20th century.

 

 

 

 

[KellyScarletRakoczy]

Good recommendations, Renu.  I have Waite's Collectanea Chemica and his Book of Black Magic.  I like the Sacred Texts site and forget that it exists half the time. I'm always going to scribd.

 

Welcome to the forum.

[Rhuen]

I ran across this list of "spell casters"

 

http://lordgameover....ut-of-business/