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    #1 User is offline   Darkness 

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    Posted 02 February 2010 - 03:13 AM

    The Air Force Academy has set aside an outdoor worship area for Pagans, Wiccans, Druids and other Earth-centered believers, school officials said Monday.
    A double circle of stones atop a hill on the campus near Colorado Springs has been designated for the group, which previously met indoors.
    http://news.yahoo.co..._earth_religion
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    #2 User is offline   misan 

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    Posted 02 February 2010 - 03:17 AM

    Yay!!
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    Posted 02 February 2010 - 04:42 PM

    About damn time the military acknowledged the outdoor nature of our beliefs!
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    Posted 02 February 2010 - 05:22 PM

    Lol. It;s just to cover their asses.

    After their evangelical nightmare at the Academy a few years ago, they're looking for anything that'll get media coverage in the right direction.


    That being said. WOOOOTZZ epic win.
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    Posted 02 February 2010 - 09:11 PM

    I am very pleased to hear that.
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    Posted 02 February 2010 - 11:18 PM

    as long asm they don't decide to turn that cirlce area as an artillery target. I would not put it past some of them
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    Posted 03 February 2010 - 01:45 AM

    The last time we had a Pagan military they attempted to take over the world and murdered 6million Jews.
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    Posted 03 February 2010 - 02:39 AM

    View PostWilV, on 03 February 2010 - 01:45 AM, said:

    The last time we had a Pagan military they attempted to take over the world and murdered 6million Jews.


    We also had several periods in time where slaughtered and persecuted Christians. Maybe we should do that again. Have some respect for freedom of religion.
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    Posted 03 February 2010 - 06:09 AM

    I don't remember saying that it's a bad thing. Just pointing out what happened last time around.
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    Posted 03 February 2010 - 11:44 AM

    The Nazis were PROTESTANT, not pagan.
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    Posted 03 February 2010 - 01:51 PM

    Of course they were. Which is why they burned churches, hunted preachers and filled their insignia with pagan iconography.

    This post has been edited by WilV: 03 February 2010 - 01:51 PM

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    Posted 03 February 2010 - 02:04 PM

    Because the Christians have never done anything equivalent to that.
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    Posted 03 February 2010 - 02:17 PM

    Christians have burned churches of sects they disagree with, derive most of their symbols from paganism, and generally seem to kill anyone whom they disagree with. Also, Satanism IS a derivative of Christianity. Without the concept of the Christian god, there is no concept of the Christian devil. Therefore, we can't worship something we don't believe in, and if the stories are true, Himmler worshipped SATAN, not the deities of old.
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    Posted 03 February 2010 - 02:18 PM

    Christians have always been saintly, suffering victims of the mean old Pagans? Get real.
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    Posted 03 February 2010 - 03:49 PM

    View PostWilV, on 03 February 2010 - 02:45 AM, said:

    The last time we had a Pagan military they attempted to take over the world and murdered 6million Jews.

    What makes you think there will be another one?
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    Posted 03 February 2010 - 10:54 PM

    View PostWilV, on 03 February 2010 - 01:51 PM, said:

    Of course they were. Which is why they burned churches, hunted preachers and filled their insignia with pagan iconography.



    If I'm not mistaken, they also declared their own pope. I'd say that the catholic church is about as unpagan as it gets.

    Besides. Hitler was a hateful dictator. He targeted everyone who didn't share his racist hateful ways, and at the time that included a few good clergymen.



    (Ohh, and for the gamebreaker)
    ""My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

    -Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922

    http://www.hitler.or...s/04-12-22.html

    (It's in bold near the bottom of the page)

    Stop blaming mistakes made by adherents to your religion on others.
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    Posted 04 February 2010 - 07:36 PM

    He made that speech in 1922 and yet claimed it was 2,000 years after Christ? Um, wouldn't it instead be one thousand, nine hundred and twenty two years?
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    Posted 04 February 2010 - 08:02 PM

    He was rounding up. Besides, Rome, by taking over the Jews, is considered "closer to God's vision" according to some anti-semites.
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    Posted 05 February 2010 - 12:07 AM

    He also made the speech years prior to there even being a Nazi military.
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    Posted 05 February 2010 - 10:37 AM

    He flat said ""My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter."

    It;s entirely unlikely that in the few years between that and his coming to power he had a complete religious revelation and saw Thoe or Odin as his reason to march an army for world domination.


    But, if that's not to your liking:


    This Winter Help Work is also in the deepest sense a Christian work. When I see, as I so often do, poorly clad girls collecting with such infinite patience in order to care for those who are suffering from the cold while they themselves are shivering with cold, then I have the feeling that they are all apostles of a Christianity-- and in truth of a Christianity which can say with greater right than any other: This is the Christianity of an honest confession, for behind it stand not words but deeds.

    -Adolf Hitler, speaking of the Winter Help Campaign on 5 Oct. 1937



    If positive Christianity means love of one's neighbour, i.e. the tending of the sick, the clothing of the poor, the feeding of the hungry, the giving of drink to those who are thirsty, then it is we who are the more positive Christians. For in these spheres the community of the people of National Socialist Germany has accomplished a prodigious work.

    -Adolf Hitler, in his speech to the "Old Guard" at Munich on 24 Feb. 1939






    We have suffered so much that it only steels us to fanatical resolve to hate Our enemies a thousand times more and to regard them for what they are destroyers of an eternal culture and annihilators of humanity. Out of this bate a holy will is born to oppose these destroyers of our existence with all the strength that God has given us and to crush them in the end. During its 2,000-year history our people has survived so many terrible times that we have no doubt that we will also master our present plight.

    -Adolf Hitler, in a recorded radio address, 24 Feb. 1945




    This is an arguement you cant hope to win. Resend your comment as either bullshit or ignorance and try to preserve that pretty troll face of yours.
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