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Hellarchy
I need to ask something to any psi vamps out there... How would you go about creating a bond in which there is a free flow of energy between two individuals? A type of bond in which there is no longer as much of a need to feed, because you could potentially more than double your average energy supply?

I am well aware of at least part of the risks of this type of bond... There would also be a free flow of emotions, thoughts, feelings, pain, and many other things between the two participants. It is dangerous, is it risky, and it is something I don't want to attempt without extensive research into the subject.

I need to know people's thoughts on trying something like this, if anyone has gone through it before, successfully or not, how it works, and how you would go about creating the bond in the first place. I know it's a lot to ask, but think on it...

I find this very intriguing.
Psychotropic
Your right. It is risky but it can be done none the less. I would advise against it, because sometimes it ends really really badly for both parties. I guess i have to ask are you really ready to deal with the side effects and possible consequences of something like this? Give it some more thought before blindly plunging yourself into it, because its not really something to be taken lightly.
escoban
QUOTE (Hellarchy @ Jul 3 2008, 03:19 AM) *
I need to ask something to any psi vamps out there... How would you go about creating a bond in which there is a free flow of energy between two individuals? A type of bond in which there is no longer as much of a need to feed, because you could potentially more than double your average energy supply?


It's called love dear, nothing special about it.
Hellarchy
QUOTE (Psychotropic @ Jul 3 2008, 01:27 AM) *
Your right. It is risky but it can be done none the less. I would advise against it, because sometimes it ends really really badly for both parties. I guess i have to ask are you really ready to deal with the side effects and possible consequences of something like this? Give it some more thought before blindly plunging yourself into it, because its not really something to be taken lightly.


That's why I'm learning about it first.


QUOTE (escoban @ Jul 3 2008, 04:41 AM) *
It's called love dear, nothing special about it.


Not quite. I've been in love before but the bond seemed to go only one way: I drained the fuck out of her.

Besides, I'm thinking of forming this bond with a friend of mine who is interested in trying it... And I don't love him as anything more than a friend.
escoban
QUOTE (Hellarchy @ Jul 3 2008, 04:42 PM) *
Not quite. I've been in love before but the bond seemed to go only one way: I drained the fuck out of her.


So it wasn't quite love. You can't just take in a relationship, that's called being a dickhead ;)


QUOTE (Hellarchy @ Jul 3 2008, 04:42 PM) *
Besides, I'm thinking of forming this bond with a friend of mine who is interested in trying it... And I don't love him as anything more than a friend.


Love is love no matter whom it forms between.
suicideXlover666
I'm with esco. Find a true enough love, and all that you mentioned in your first post will flow between on it's own.

Though I'm sure that if you were to look hard enough, there's a spell for it somewhere.
It sounds like something that would have been done in past times, but is now most likely nearly forgotten.
Hellarchy
QUOTE (suicideXlover666 @ Jul 4 2008, 12:29 AM) *
I'm with esco. Find a true enough love, and all that you mentioned in your first post will flow between on it's own.

Though I'm sure that if you were to look hard enough, there's a spell for it somewhere.
It sounds like something that would have been done in past times, but is now most likely nearly forgotten.


Okay, let's just say for this thread's sake that I don't want to, and won't, love the person I want to do this with. Any clue on how it would be done anyone?

You're probably right, it seems like something not often heard of... But I'm hoping someone will have some idea. I'd hate to have to go figuring this out myself.
suicideXlover666
I've got some friends I could ask... No guarantee of many answers though
*thinking on the keyboard to make sure she's got it right* A bonding of two people, to allow energy to flow back and forth freely. Presumably between yourself (a psi, yes?) and a regular person. Hmm. But this brings up the question of weather it could be done with TWO regular people... Mmmm. Many paths but few feet. *done*

I'll talk to some people and see what I can find out, Hell.



I really need to stay focused in my thoughts.
escoban
QUOTE (Hellarchy @ Jul 4 2008, 07:58 AM) *
Okay, let's just say for this thread's sake that I don't want to, and won't, love the person I want to do this with. Any clue on how it would be done anyone?


Catch me up on PM and maybe I can steer you in the right direction. But let me just warn you, don't do this with someone you don't love because it will end in depression (severe psy deprivation) for the both of you or at least for the weaker one.
Alaras
I've been looking for something similar as well, to connect two people across any distance. So far, I've found a few leads, but they all turned out to be duds.
prometheus
QUOTE (Alaras @ Jul 8 2008, 04:16 PM) *
I've been looking for something similar as well, to connect two people across any distance. So far, I've found a few leads, but they all turned out to be duds.


How about trying a telephone line?

Better Still, a radio uplink. They've been used to connect with astronauts 250,000 miles away...
Psychotropic
I would be willing to offer what i know except for the fact that such things never end well. It's best to not try it at all honestly, because the ramifications of such an action far outweigh whatever benefits you might think you will be recieving...
Alaras
QUOTE (prometheus @ Jul 8 2008, 04:39 PM) *
How about trying a telephone line?

Better Still, a radio uplink. They've been used to connect with astronauts 250,000 miles away...

Douchebaggery is not appreciated in discussions on Darkness. Thank you, and have a nice day.
Lollipop
douchebaggery is one of the key elements in darkness discussion. Don't know where you've been, but I assume it's a magical fairy land where people are unable to grow a set of balls and some thick skin.
Hellarchy
QUOTE (suicideXlover666 @ Jul 4 2008, 03:08 AM) *
I'll talk to some people and see what I can find out, Hell.


Thank you, I'd like you to let me know you find/have found out anything. If so I might actually put use to this phone number ;)



QUOTE (Psychotropic @ Jul 8 2008, 11:38 PM) *
I would be willing to offer what i know except for the fact that such things never end well. It's best to not try it at all honestly, because the ramifications of such an action far outweigh whatever benefits you might think you will be recieving...


If you do know anything, please do share. If it's for my own protection that you wouldn't, I appreciate it, but I still want to know as much about it as I can.

QUOTE (escoban @ Jul 4 2008, 04:54 AM) *
Catch me up on PM and maybe I can steer you in the right direction. But let me just warn you, don't do this with someone you don't love because it will end in depression (severe psy deprivation) for the both of you or at least for the weaker one.


Ah, if you are actually serious about this I wouldn't mind catching you on pm. You bring up a good point about one side possibly being weaker though.
*ANOTHER*GREY*LINE*
There's somthing that has got me confused. You do mean a two way transfer between you and your partner, correct? So that your energy simply cycles through both of you? That in itself could cause some problems. Whatever sort or "frequency" of energy you have in you when you start is what you are left with using for the rest of your life. Also, if you stop pulling energy from various sources, you stop "mixing it up" so to speak, and eventually would your combined energy not stagnate, causing all sorts of psycho-emotional problems?
Hellarchy
QUOTE (*ANOTHER*GREY*LINE* @ Jul 26 2008, 01:38 PM) *
There's somthing that has got me confused. You do mean a two way transfer between you and your partner, correct? So that your energy simply cycles through both of you? That in itself could cause some problems. Whatever sort or "frequency" of energy you have in you when you start is what you are left with using for the rest of your life. Also, if you stop pulling energy from various sources, you stop "mixing it up" so to speak, and eventually would your combined energy not stagnate, causing all sorts of psycho-emotional problems?



What exactly do you mean when you say "frequency" of energy? Clarify that a little for me?

As for a lack of new energy, the answer should be simple... We are always producing new energy, so a flow of new energy will still be there (theoretically). It may not be "different" energy, but why does it need to be? Ordinary people live off of self-produced energy for the most part seeing as they can't and don't need to draw it from another source... They don't "mix it up" and yet they function just fine.

Correct me if my logic is wrong here.


shadowsbane
QUOTE
Okay, let's just say for this thread's sake that I don't want to, and won't, love the person I want to do this with. Any clue on how it would be done anyone?


Find a common bond that isn't as complicated or consuming as love? People are brought together by multiple things and while love is the most common, bonds are defnitely not limited to something that thrives on physical intimacy. A certain mindset maybe or mutual understanding in some lasting piece in both of you.

If what I experienced years ago was along the lines of what you are looking for.. It lasts as long and is subject to the stipulations of what you base it on. I placed it on a childish ideal that changed over the years and in turn broke the link. Or at least put it to sleep aside from the points where this individual and myself regresses or slips back into that mindset.
Diabolique
QUOTE (prometheus @ Jul 8 2008, 03:39 PM) *
How about trying a telephone line?

Better Still, a radio uplink. They've been used to connect with astronauts 250,000 miles away...



Ok, I must say that this is one of the most entertaining posts that I've seen in quite a long time...you validated my thoughts....thank you for that,. Prometheus...

Throughout this entire thread, the question of how exactly "PSI Bonding" is linked to the scientific aspect has yet to be answered. Being that I have basic knowledge of chemistry, and at *least* know what a covalent bond is, I find myself noticing that not one person has explained how PSI bonding is "covalent". If I did miss something, please let me know..
shadowsbane
There will be times people use misplaced words to try and describe an idea or aspect of something. Generally its called guessing to the best of your knowledge.. That would be my guess as to why the word was used. Reading its definition now I'm assuming its in regards to the sharing of energy (defined as electrons) shared between two individuals (defined as atoms). So it makes sense, in a not so literal approach. Maybe the action hes looking for reflects covalent behaviors? ..I dunno.


Yes, prometheus mentions the more literal and well..proven method of keeping in touch. But people will always dream of something more, of a higher capacity. I can't say whether or not such a thing exists..but its interesting to at least entertain the ideas every now and then.
misan
It depends on whether you are thinking more literally. I tend to jump from the literal into similarities...more conceptual than factual. Sometimes I lose people in the jump. lol
Maybe that is what was happening. I know Hellarchy is intelligent so I would guess that Shadosbane is right.
*ANOTHER*GREY*LINE*
QUOTE (Hellarchy @ Jul 28 2008, 06:53 PM) *
What exactly do you mean when you say "frequency" of energy? Clarify that a little for me?

As for a lack of new energy, the answer should be simple... We are always producing new energy, so a flow of new energy will still be there (theoretically). It may not be "different" energy, but why does it need to be? Ordinary people live off of self-produced energy for the most part seeing as they can't and don't need to draw it from another source... They don't "mix it up" and yet they function just fine.

Correct me if my logic is wrong here.

To the best of my understanding, there is no such thing as really "new" energy; conservation of mass/energy law of physics says neither cane made or destroyed, only changed or transfered. Energy flows from the universe into a person, is usually changed in the person by feelings and actions, and then released back out like a spring. Psi vamps have an inability to draw sufficient energy from the universe and so need to draw it from others around them. By "frequency", I think spectrum would have been as good or better a word. Types of energy; example, light spectrum, electro magnetic, etc, even spiritual energy, and all the different frequencies, wavelengths and amplitudes they come in. You often become accustomed over your life to drawing certain kinds of certain characteristics, and when you can't get the types you're used to it'd be assumed that you would suffer withdrawals likes a drug. Unless your partner expels all the types of energy you need and vis versa, I'm not so sure the idea would work out so good.
Zan
QUOTE (*ANOTHER*GREY*LINE* @ Aug 7 2008, 07:01 AM) *
To the best of my understanding, there is no such thing as really "new" energy; conservation of mass/energy law of physics says neither cane made or destroyed, only changed or transfered. Energy flows from the universe into a person, is usually changed in the person by feelings and actions, and then released back out like a spring. Psi vamps have an inability to draw sufficient energy from the universe and so need to draw it from others around them. By "frequency", I think spectrum would have been as good or better a word. Types of energy; example, light spectrum, electro magnetic, etc, even spiritual energy, and all the different frequencies, wavelengths and amplitudes they come in. You often become accustomed over your life to drawing certain kinds of certain characteristics, and when you can't get the types you're used to it'd be assumed that you would suffer withdrawals likes a drug. Unless your partner expels all the types of energy you need and vis versa, I'm not so sure the idea would work out so good.



Just to be an antagonist...

Well, if it cannot be created, where did the universe come from in the first place? All of that energy had to be created by something... Doesn't that mean it is theoretically plausible that energy can be created?
Alaras
It supports the perpetuality theory, that nothing truly has impermanence, but rather that things convert to and from energy and matter. In other words, the world contracts as matter becomes energy, then that matter converts to energy, which expands outwards and cools into matter as it expands, which then eventually does what it did before. It's all an eternal cycle.
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