Many, if not most modern-day vampires, do not believe that one can be "changed/turned" into a vampire. Being "changed" is not a popular concept in the modern vampire community (online or offline). The idea is usually met with derision. Most in the vampire community believe they were born vampires and awakened at some point, usually at puberty, although sometimes later by a triggering event of some sort. Some vampires will go as far to say that latent vampires can be awakened by being around an older vampire; some are afraid to even express this idea as they are afraid of what their peers will think. Pfffft.

No vampire can prove they were born a vampire; no vampire can prove they do or do not have an unusual genetic makeup; no vampire can prove that their vampirism isn't purely clinical; no vampire can prove that they do not have a vampire spirit, etc. Vampires can't prove much of anything so why not explore other options. Just because one wasn't "turned," doesn't mean they aren't a Real Vampire.

I have an open mind regards changing. I am not the only one. There is a whole subculture of vampires who actually believe in changing.

I had always wondered how "changing" would happen if it did/does happen. Well, I have explored various internet sites and talked with some of the vampires who believe in changing. I have heard everything from invoking a vampire spirit (there are spells that accomplish this), invoking reincarnated vampire spirit(s); and soul transference. Soul transference is practiced by shamans, you may recall. Soul transference is practiced by transferring your consciousness to say a rock, not exactly travelling clairvoyance though. You actually become one with the rock, the bear (Bear Tribe ring a bell?) and so on. So, when the vampire transfers part of his soul to an individual, he changes that person forever. Or that is the concept.

Can it happen? What do you think? (I hope you'll be open and not worry about your reputation in the vampire community. I think a lot of people are afraid to express what they think is possible/or what they believe. True, there can be backlash.)

In practicing changing, there is usually a blood exchange. Do you think that is necessary? Is it because blood has power, is an archetype?

I've done a bit of research on the subject, and found a few potentially workable means of "turning" someone, assuming that you yourself are a long-lived vampire. Psy-vamps are just psychics with a need to absorb foreign energies, and are not really vampires in any other sense. For the rest, there is a soul transference ritual, but the details are sketchy at best, and I don't know if there's anybody still alive who knows it in its entirety anymore.

Someone once sent me a ritual for changing. I did a search and found it on the internet. It sounded silly - I think it invoked Vlad Tepes or something like that.

I just wonder how important the rituals are, if they are needed?

I have to agree with you regards the psychic/psi/pranic vampires.

Most of those rituals you'll find are fake. I think your friend Michael may have learned a real one, but his is probably too lethal for most to use. Even so, the whole thing is improbable at best, and a dangerous fraud at worst. From what I've heard, one must do things that no being is meant to do in order to become that which one was not meant to be. In this case, that would mean a non-vampire who wishes to become a vampire, even though they are not really meant for that life. There is always a price to pay when you alter the grand scheme for personal gain, or even for charitable purposes. I would strongly advise you to stop looking for the means to access this particular path and just go on with your life.

I am happy to be what I am, but I do have an inquisitive mind.

...don't take this wrong, but you have an awful lot to learn about Psi's.

Anyhow, it is possible, although I haven't run into many vamps who know how, and the ones that do usually know better. It's not something to be toyed around with and can have vicious consequences, so with that in mind, it's a process usually kept quiet and rarely performed.

No it can't happen.

I agree actually. I do believe that one may believe they are a vampire, whether born as one or "embraced."

I won't try to make sweeping generalizations about anyone, but I'll just post some of what I've observed. I've known someone who was not a psychic vampire, but lived in an environment rich with them. After a few months, it started to "rub off" on him. Most of us know the symptoms here, increasing depression and lack of energy, until a high-energy environment comes up, then he starts to come back up. The cycle started small, increased for a while, then stabilized. He became more comfortable at night, and his personality shifted somewhat. The odd thing was that rather than the usual change at puberty, this guy was over forty years old.

That case alone leads me to believe that there is a mechanism for the condition to spread from one to another. It may well be that some people are more disposed to it than others, or that some people are born into energy-draining families and so pick it up very early.

Originally I thought that it would be something that one was born into, or not. But I had to change my mind after that, and came to believe that there was something more at work here.

It seems that sometimes when one has latent vampirism, they can be awakened by being around other vampires.
I have heard of this quite a bit.

Same here I don't remember how I found I was a vampire, but I remember it was either 8th or 9th grade.

That seems to be about the usual age. I have no idea why. I could come up with theories, but I would not be able to prove anything.

It's weird, it seems that the conversion from non-vampire to vampire can take place at nearly any age, but it almost always happens between fourteen and seventeen.

This seems to be true of sangs and psis alike. But, that's just what I have run across, what about the rest of you?

It may be a matter of birth because I recently found out of myself being an awakened vampire before I started even knowing of vampires, but hey, thats just me. I've actually been one since before 05 and I was living in an area where there is nothing at all... Birth is my only possible explination.