Could be considered otherkin? They're not human... (pleeeease, Rhuen, let it stay?)

Do you believe?

Some believes aliens are the original gods, the creators and designers of mankind, or helpers and guides that were later interpreted to be angels. One of our more eccentric musicians here in Norway claims to have been abducted, and insists that she's still in touch with them.

Do you have any funky theories?

I think they're observing us based on the increased UFO activity as of late, mostly as a way of seeing whether we should be exterminated like rats or given a chance at enlightenment. I think we're doomed, though.

i say aliens did make contact with the human race at some point in time.

in some egyptian heirogliphics there are images of snakes(the egyptian sign of energy) inside tubes: energy+tubes=lightbulbs.

and the pyramids are a feat of wonder. a block exactly like the ones used in the pyramids was plaed on a wheeled cart, and is in a museam in chicago. when my highschool class went there, the entire football team, and there muscular construction worker fathers couldn't move it an inch. the rope (which was as wide as my arm) frayed to pieces, and broke before that block moved.

closly associated to that, there was a latvian stone mason who built a casle out of coralrock. he loaded, and unloaded the truck with 2,000lb slabs of stone on it, by himself. and he worked only at night. the stones he was moving easily weighed 4 anf 5 thousand pounds each, and he moved them without a single machine. when asked how he did this, he said that he had found the secret of the pyramids.
later people found that a stone desighned to spin on the ground could focus magnetism in any direction he wanted it to, but noone really knows how it was used, or how he could have done it all himself.

long story short, theres too much that can't be explained by science that isn't extreme enough to be defined my most religions. so aliens makes the most sence

From the time I was a little kid I always considered it extremely silly for someone to think there are both no gods nor aliens of any kind out there. I could never understand how anyone could think that because it seemed so strange. I still do not really understand. In my mind, with such a large expanse you almost have to almost expect alien life to be out there?

At the very least I believe that there have been visitations with at least a sort of anthropological intent behind them. It would seem normal for any entity lacking in total complete universal knowledge to be seeking out answers from the universe as a whole. Humanity then would also be something to consider and at least initially explore and evaluate since presumably no entity would seek to remain collectively totally ignorant about something if it had a choice.

If there are interactions which are made on purpose, I tend to believe that they have all been mostly highly calculated as much as possible (presumably an entity capable of inter-galactic travel is not ignorant or stupid). Because we are not aware of these, it is also very likely that for whichever purpose obscurity is desired. Primarily I consider that bringing technology or advanced systems to entities which are not capable of adapting to them at present will likely result in a destructive outcome. The natural way of evolution without the interference seems to be much more stable, although it is very slow to us as beings with average lifespans below 100 years. For instance if we went back to 2,000 BC and just gave a civilization nuclear technologies, would they be ready to use these and understand? Of course not. There is a lot in between in terms of development in various fields and supporting technologies. It would be much like giving a three year old a live grenade and telling them to play around with it I would think.

I must refute your statement about choosing ignorance, as humans collectively decide to do so ALL the time.

It can stay.

My stance though is that aliens and gods can be mistaken for each other, but are not each other.

Just as a saucer can be mistaken for a god's fire wheel chariot so to is it possible that a god flying about as a ball of light could be mistaken for an alien craft.

aliens it seems would be more like passive observers like when people watch animals, take them to examine them, tag them and then release them, sometimes with transmitters to watch their movements, and even to know when one had been taken before.

Again, why believe? Either they do or they don't...I'm not fussed until they start having laser battles outside my house. For some reason laser battles seem to get very loud despite lasers being totally silent. Odd that.

Vore, the lasers make noise because they disrupt air particles in the high-energy form used in advanced extra-terrestrial technology.,

i'd say it's possible that aliens are gods. i definitely don't believe it, though.

The most interesting idea (read not theory) I've heard/read about aliens, is that (contrary to Einstein's stance on it) they are actually vastly evolved humans who have come back to see where they evolved from... This is made especially interesting considering some of the changes evolutionists think our biology will go through over the next several millenia (eg losing our pink fingers etc etc)... The article was interesting, far more then my little synopsis of the idea... But it's been years since I've seen it and I wouldn't know where to find it again.

Beyond that, in the more realistic sense. Considering the vastness of the universe and also considering how many astronomical odds have been broken on our little grain of sand alone, I can't discount the possibility that there is likely life on another planet, perhaps traveling through the universe. However, I'm skeptical of the idea that they could have the technological capacity in order to travel over light-years of space-time in order to reach Earth, especially given the very short amount of time the S.E.T.I. transmission has been running for, there's no way the radio waves could have notified another planet that would have the capability to sustain life, or more importantly, life with the technology to reach us yet, should it turn out to be that intelligent.

I must say, I am highly skeptical of the abduction stories for the reason I illustrated above, much as I'd like to believe a way off this planet could be that close in time.

This is usually the statemens that are given when there is talk about aliens/ufo's visiting us. :-)
The thing with ufology is that you have to stop thinking like this, and instead start thinking that other civilizations might have evolved under a lot more different habbitats than what we are used to on our own planet, and that they could have evolved over millions of years, not thousands.
Their advancements in technology might also be alot different.
But this are things that we will only find out if there is an official "first contact".
Ufo's is a discussion that never gets anywhere, either you think there is another intelligent race visiting us from another planet, or you dont.

And when it comes to our knowledge about the universe, our galaxy, even our own solarsystem, that knowledge is very limited, most what we "know" are only theories.

When it comes to aliens from another planet visiting us, i dont know.
Ufo's are probably real, but if it's aliens controling them, dont know.

Have a nice day.

I do believe that there is life on other planets. Possibly even inside of our own solar system however I am not entirely convinced that every U.F.O. or even the majority of them has been from outer space. I do believe that some of them could have just as easily been from this planet, and no I don't mean humans per se.

I mean if you think about it how much of this planet do we actually know about? We are still completely ignorant about Antartica and most of the ocean not to mention some lakes, and rivers, and we sure as hell don't know everything that is underneath the Earth.

The scariest thought for most I have found is not that there is life outside this planet but rather that there is another form of intellegent life on this planet. A race of intellegent superiority on this planet scares a great deal of humanity.

Balez, you quoted me, and yet completely misinterpreted what I said... I merely said I was skeptical, and believe you me, I've taken into account many of the factors that you wrote about...

What I specifically said, is I highly doubt the actual abduction stories... It seems a little too coincidental that alien abduction stories started popping around shortly after Orson Wells' War of the Worlds was aired...

I have seen Travis Walton (alleged abductee, writer of Fire in the Sky) a lecture on his experience (which was actually quite interesting) it doesn't keep me from being skeptical of the fact that after 50 years of these abduction stories, you'd think the aliens would have gleaned all the information they needed...

My other skepticism is if they have such technology as can take them over a vast 20 million light year voyage, then why would they need to conduct such barbaric experiments?

I believe in aliens... I don't believe in the abductees...

Yes, i quoted you :)
But my answer had nothing to do with what you belive, it was more or less only a statement that many people are stuck on thinking on what "we" the collective humankind belive (most people and scientists) that we know so very much.
I'm sorry if you took this as critisisim, it was not meant as that.
I'm just too lazy to type much and used your text as an example :)

Aliens, as in physical beings which "evolved" within the physical universe as we are supposed to have? Not a chance. "Aliens" as in non-terrestrial lifeforms, without a doubt. Though from my perspective aliens, the various pantheons of gods, demons, they're all the same thing, and all through history they've been doing the same thing.

However, far more impressive than the pyramids is Maccu Piccu (sp?) in Chile. The stone blocks required to built that city were mined over 50km away, down the bottom of a ravine, then transported up a "llama track" barely wide enough for a llama to walk single file. I guess that's why they call them "wonders" of the world. Of course it's only amazing if you accept the idea that people generally are getting more intelligent and better skilled as time goes on. That is not an idea that I hold to be true.

I don't believe in the sense that little green men run around different planets but i do believe in life on other planets. To think we are the only life inhabited planet in the entire universe is a bit arrogant and closed minded.

Yeah, I do beleive in ALiens...there has to be something out there more intelligent than us humans...I mean, look at Area 1. If nothing is there then why be so secretive? How do you explain Michael Jackson and paula abdul? Or the President? I'm not sure if they look human or they are the almod eyed creatures we see on tv and in books...maybe they are human oid like the ones from ALien nation? I dunno...I do consider them otherkin, because they are neither vampire, wolf or faerie...they could be all three so you never know...which classifies them as otherkin.

I believe that there is some form of life living out there other than human . If there wasn't wouldn't that be a big waste of space?

They make noise because the aliens needed the satisfaction of going 'wibbly wibbly peow'...If they can rig a death laser in a hand sized unit they sure as hell can fit a speaker system.

I definitely believe in aliens. I also believe it is likely that they are what we call gods as they would have far superior technology and this would appear like magic to us monkey humans - just like science and healing seemed like magic many thousands of years ago to the select few who were given the knowledge by others. Not to say that magic does not exist but probably is something that is unexplained at this point.

Also, sorry, but I have to be picky here - Machu Picchu is in Peru, not Chile. I do believe that the old myths from the advanced civilisations of Egypt, Peru, other Sth American and Central American places, sound suspiciously like alien influenced places. It is as if they were taught science, maths, medicine, etc by far more advanced beings and I don't think they were human nor had come from Earth from another time but I do also believe in time travel or the possibility of it.

Aliens are just that, extra terrestrial life forms. They may or may not exist. There's no evidence for their existence, though plenty of people will testify that they do exist. But when you think about it if, for arguments sake, people have had encounters with beings they consider to be "aliens" what actually leads them to the conclusion that they are in fact from out of space?