I tried this already on the vampire boards...... they said to try it here....

I have four canines..... all of which are extremely sharp for a human, plus two more that were once flat and are now becoming sharper.

my teeth do not bother me, what does bother me is this incredible craving for meat. I have actually gotten to the point where I cant hardly stand anything besides it anymore. I mean it is almost to the point where anything besides meat makes me physically ill. And a lot of the meat does not satisfy me unless it is rare (and I am only clarifying rare because of some experiences I had with others..... rare- cooked enough not to get sick but still dripping with blood).

I do not have a great deal of energy when I do not have this. I also find that I crave this more so than cigarettes.... and I'm a smoker! This caving gets stronger only during certain times of the month. Other times it is still there but I can ignore it. I have the ability to see incredibly well at night, and my night vision becomes even better when I have had some of this rare bloody meat. Blood by itself will not do. I have tried that. It has to be with the meat. Upon eating the meat I find that I am tearing it apart to no end. I go through five or six in a matter of only a few minutes like there would never be anymore. Almost as if I was starving.

What is wrong with me?

fuck u are a vamprie!

Maybe you will satisfy your "hunger" if you simply cook the meat. It's much more satisfying that way. I crave alcohol and drugs all the time, but it doesnt mean its best for me. So, try cooking the meat, and then turn the lights on when you use the computer, you'll hurt your eyes and end up with glasses. It may seem like you have better vision, but its the brightness of the computer monitor in the dark. So, try those, and get back to us.

ok one.... I have had cooked meat several times obviously. that does not satisfy my cravings. My night vision is not in reference to my time in front of the computer. dunkoft

Good nightvision is not a sign of anything supernatural, simply being the dark for long periods gives you this as your eyes adjust and if your eyes are used to a certain level of light "as in you spend alot of time in the dark" your eyes will learn to adjust quiker than the average person's giving the apperance of great night vision.
and some people just gave better night vision than others its nothing all that special.

as for four canines, this is actually a fairly common dental disorder in which an extra pair have grown in (or you could be mistaking the second set as something rare, some people don't notice them too often but they can also be sharp and are located directly next to the first set. "look up a dental book for references on canines and eye teeth for more details"

as for a craving for rare meat, this is also nothing special, it could be due to a defiency in your system (humans are animals after all and when a defiency occures we can get odd cravings) You may be low on Iron, calcium, or some other nutrient. Try taking supliments and see if the cravings go away because raw meat is not good for you.

Was that sarcasm or are you always so quick to make a judgement? It will ultimately be up to Sickle to know what sort of otherkin, if any, they might be. It is a process of trial and error, of searching for answers and often coming up dissatified or short of the results you hoped for.

I am the one who told Sickle to come to the otherkin forum with their questions. Admittedly I was a bit sarcastic at first in the vampire section but the questions seem to be being asked in earnest. I am not much of an authority on otherkin. My main area of interest is vampires.

Though there are many medical reasons for certain conditions and I did recommend a battery of tests to dispell anything physical Sickle still has questions. Does anyone have any honest answers or have an honest desire to help?

i have good night vision but i am perfectly human, i also have very sharp teeth and like meat although i do not crave it, these could just be to do with something your going through, i dont think your changing into some kind of ravenous beast if thats what you were hoping

Please count how many teeth you have total and post it here.

what would be the point in counting all of my teeth. As to my canines, the second set is below the first, and the ones that once were flat but are getting sharper are the one's next to the first set.

I was in fact always able to see better at night. The sun gives me massive headaches if I dont wear sunglasses. Even if it is not glaring directly at me.

I do believe that I defined what rare meat was but since you wish to classify rare and raw together I will explain it yet again. (rare meat: meat that has been cooked just enough not to get you sick but is dripping with blood.)

I could believe the malnutrition thing with but one little flaw. The cravings get stronger around certain times of the month. The rest of the month it seems to be fine. I have never figured out what is supposed to happen those weeks but I am trying to figure it out. It's not like I eat less those weeks, I tryed to check astrological but found nothing.

The point in counting your teeth is because he obviously wants to know for some reason. And you cannot see better at night, you see better in the daytime. Something "dripping with blood" is not cooked fully. I do not need to expound these reasons because I believe you are lying, and if you are, im wasting my time.

u say that have four canines extremely sharp....
u crave for bloody meat...
u claim also to have one exelent nightvison...
well none of this facts is rare to pepole...
but the fact remains that it troubles u...
well there loads of supernatural cretures with this facts reported
vampires... werewolfs...demons....gargoiles...death crows... and so many more...
if u do think or feel that u are part of this maybe u should explore...
not in books forums or ppl but in u....
the major concern that i have seen when i read the post was that u think that u can be a vampire...
well let me tell u something there are not such things only sipirits are cataloged as vampires and they are called energitic vampires...
they feed on the living mater of flesh....
they crave for energy in blood and flesh....
well at least this what i know...
maybe u are one....
hope that i have been of sevice if u need anything more just contact

First off, that's a question, it should end in a question mark.

I'll tell you the reasoning behind counting your teeth AFTER you give your answer, so as to not taint the answer with a hint. Go on now, count your teeth and tell us how many you have.

Better yet, take a photo of them and show us. (I can see it now, you can't take a pic for some reason)

I realize this is something that never occured to you but not everyone has a webcam or a digital camera. There are still some people in the world who have a lower income and are barely able to have internet, and the answer is 34

well... have u thought about u being a enrgetic vampire???? think about it.....

And how old are you Sickle, since you decided not to put your age on your profile? And, I told you so on the no webcam or digicam or photo device of any kind.

As far as your claim of being too poor to be able to afford a webcam, you seem to be able to pay for cable internet easily enough. Barely able to have internet? I think not.

It was part of a package deal that came with the phone as well as the cable itself dunkoft.

And I know this thought never crossed your mind but we do have other things to pay for besides specialty items like digital cameras and webcams. Like diapers for my nephew for starters, car payment, electric, school payments for my sisters college, insurance, would you like me to continue or do you wish to at least pretend that you have some maturity to you?

I am personally trying to save my money to go back to college. Not waste it taking thirty clips of myself with some webcam or digital camera and linking it to some random websites.

And I am 21.... not that it really matters

oh, and Shawn.... all I have to say to you is :

http://www.biggreenegg.com/archives/2004/messages/122582.htm

do some research before you go calling someone a liar. You wish to say that I cannot see better at night but you have never met me nor have you stated anything that backs up what you have to say.

I'll believe the four canines when you post a photo. Also, I stand by my remark that you can pay for cable internet so you can afford a 15 dollar webcam.

Knock it off.

^ thank you

and I am back.

This place certainly needs to be cleaned up, wish I still had that ability around here.

Back to what I was saying.

Having certain cravings certain times of the month actually goes in line with a chemical reason for the cravings. a possible defiency caused by your habitual diet versus what your body feels it needs. Or even a habitual chemical or even psychological cycle you have become stuck in due to previous behavior. Not unlike the psychological experiment in which a person who have been shown funny comedy on certain days at certain times for several months would even when not in the company of the entertainment start laughing around those same times of the month and day for apparently no reason.

Basically we are creatures of habit.

Also on the teeth, all people have four eye teeth. Or canine teeth. a pair of larger ones and a pair of smaller ones behind them. Your's could just be overlapping due to lack of space in your mouth.

Do you still have your wisdom teeth?

Also I think I know what you are describing in your mouth, I have known a few people with mouths like that "and oddly enough some have claimed it makes them at least part vampire"

Except that a vampire is a walking corpse and the thing in movies was never part of the folklore.

Basically at this point I believe most if not all of what your describing can be explained.

No one knows how many teeth a true, undead vampire (that's right VAMPIRE, not "vampyre" or "Child of the Night" or whatever b.s. blood fetishers are calling themselves these days) has...it could be 30, it could be 46. Find me a real undead vampire, stake it, have a forensic researcher do an autopsy, and then send me the medical files.
The average number of teeth for mammals, carnivorous or herbivorous, is 40 (I think). Humans with a full set of teeth can have anything from 26 to 36, depending on age and jaw development. And having four canines isn't the whole picture. You would have to have an absence of flat-shaped incisors among other things. Look at a dog's or cat's mouth, then look at a human's mouth. Their teeth are almost entirely canines, premolars, and molars. Humans have herbivorous, flat teeth as well as the canrivorous, sharp teeth.
Also, if you were a true carnivore and/or a nocturnal creature, your orbitals and eyes would be much larger and the pupils would be extremely large in proportion to the rest of the eye; your pupils could also be a different (non-human) shape NATURALLY.
How's your senses of hearing and smelling? You haven't mentioned those, which are far more important to carnivores and night creatures than is the sense of sight.

He is right about the nocturnal creaturs. Most Nocturnal predators have far better developed senses of smell and hearing than sight. There eyes in fact are so developed for night vision though that they do see much better at night than a human however its traded off with very poor sight during the day. In fact a cat only sees a fuzzy image in bright lights and in fact can overwhelmed and temporarily paralyzed by a sudden blast of bright light while its out at night "why cat's are easily hit by cars with their bright on"

For true nocturnal vision your pupil must either be oval shaped "like a cat or fox's" or be most of the eye like a rat's" Howeve all nocturnal primates "what humans are Primates" have huge eyes in relation to their head size "like an Aye-Aye or bush baby."

Primates have poor senses of smell and hearing so when they go nocturnal they make up for this by changing their eye structure which is the main focus of primate sensory development.

Nocturnal species of owls have eyes like that too, which I think you mentioned in a different thread Rhuen. On top of that, the primates you listed all have eyes that not only take up much of the face, but most of the skull as well. Aye-ayes, bush babies, and tarsiers have very tiny brains in relation to their eyes. I find it interesting that records of vampires don't mention oversized eyes, at least with European vampires.

Sickle, dude, you're not a vampire. You're a werewolf! Be proud! I had similar problems when I remembered I was one.

Put me in charge of Otherkin, I'll do great!
Please.

okay, firstly yes there is four.... but I also said plus two. As for my wisdom teeth, I do not recall getting them removed so yes they are probably still there but last I remembered your wisdom teeth are in the back not the front. By all means correct me if I am wrong though.

As to my sense of smell and sight...... my sense of smell is very poor unfortunately due to my nose being broken in a fight when I was younger. My hearing is exceptional though..... there are times that I can actually hear a television turning on in another house.

Not sure if this has anything to do with it or not but also if I am laying down near someone. Like not neccessarily in the same bed but very close I can share their dreams or even hear their thoughts.

As to the chemical thing and or habit thing. That is entirely possible. I am not saying that it is not. Although I have only had that kind of meat maybe three or four times in my entire life. Not saying your wrong, just saying

As to the werewolf thing, I have heard that before from a Native American friend of mine. I would be interesting in what the signs are of becoming a werewolf.

Alright dude.

so does anyone know the signs of someone becoming a werewolf.... or a shapeshifter (just in case some decide to use Native American believes)

Native American:

Okay there are two main ones

Skinwalker
and
Windigo "closist thing to a hollywood werewolf in the world actually"

The Skinwalker is a sorcerer who by using evil spiritual powers puts on the skin of animals and turns into them "even able to turn into other people"
-only seldomly turns into a monster like creature.

Windigo: in the cold of winter with very little food a person hears the call of a windigo and develops a taste for raw meat and blood. Their appitite is unstopple even to the point of eating other people. After this they run off into the wild where they are consumed inside and out of a demon. At this point they change into a giant furry beast with dagger like teeth and very little intellegence.

go to www.playspoon.com/twi.
Click on History or How To Become A Werewolf.
Or you can type in "what are the signs of a werewolf" on yahoo.com

Sickle are you male or female?? You say you have these cravings at certain times of the month, if you are female I can readily explain them away for you....that is unless you want to be something other than human...which you more than likely are something more...but still yet if these "changes" are unwelcome I am sure we can all help you find a rational explanation..

ok I am a guy. And I know this is a bit off topic but when did all the scientists start visiting gothic message boards?

I'm not a scientist. You just seemed like you didn't want these cravings and such. Just thought I would try and help, but hey if ya don't want it don't ask. Quite frankly if you were really concerned about these things you wouldn't care if the answer came from a scientist or dog as long as it helped.

Yeah.

I dont mind help so much but before anyone goes analyzing it would be nice if people would read over everything I said first and not just part.

I read it all.

I have no problem with who the explanation comes from I just did not want another Creature Feature response.

And the problems still continue. I have gone five months without bloody meat now and I am so irritable it isnt even funny. I have gone off on several people. I also almost got into a wreck near my apartment complex the other day because I could not take my eyes off the bright yellow moon. (it just seemed different somehow and brighter than normal) and for several minutes all I could do was stare at it. (not sure if that was related but I had to put it somewhere)

creature only wants to help.As strange as it may seem to you hes a really nice helpful guy .He wants to know the teeth count so he can confirm if your theary(sp) is correct or not .Alot of people come on here claiming to be vampires werewolves and such but they all learn the truth through people on the forum who help them understand and realise thigns they didnt know before

Dont abuse his help sickle ...youll regret it when you need him most


I dont think your an actual vampire or such but then again im no expert on these things.To me vampires are fiction i wish to come true ..butthats all they are ...not unless someone tries to pass off as one .Sorry i couldnt help

clearly if logic could explain away what was going on with the cravings and what not then I probably would have found it and as for thinking that all meat has to be brown to be done, that is just foolish.

No necisarily. "logic is not common sense, nore is common sense common sense"

Just because something can be explained doesn't mean the answear would fall into your lap.

Honestly I think you need to talk to a therapist about these things because you may have lycanthorpy "the mental defect not the shapeshifting one"

Because going off on people and nearly geting into car crashes is not a normal response to lack of meat. The meat may actually have just been fullfilling a psychological want.

again with the meat.......

the meat is just part of it......

its not like a lack of meat made me look at the moon..... even I wouldnt say that....

People have had car crashes from looking at the moon before and even from looking at rainbows. I wouldn't think too much about it.

so now I stand back at square one with no answers and more questions. Constantly must I wonder and ponder. I ask and many reply but in such answers are lacking so I sigh and I must ask why? Why can't anyone see what is wrong with me?

Is the answear to your question something you want it to be?
or
Is the answear to your question too mundane that you don't want it to be?
or
Is the answear something so basic that its easily overlooked and could be seen by a therapist?

We are not psych majors nore will anyone say something that sounds like its an answear your wanting. "rarely is the truth what we want it to be"

no answer has been given. Simply what if's , and each theory given has loop holes in it which I have clearly shown (it is not a matter of me being difficult but that if the answer has loop holes in it how can it be the right answer?)

multiple causes.

okay further specification on that reply is clearly needed

Simply put if no one cause can account for everything in it stands to reason that their may very well be multiple causes for whats going on.

Seldom is anything caused by one thing but developed from several things occuring at the same time.

as previously said many answers given, many questions remain

That's usually how life works, sorry.