Akhenaten
Mar 19 2006, 11:45 AM
We all love vampires theres no doubt about that, but do we really think there real. I think its a possibility, fanged blood drinkers have been part of history since the ancient celtics so i want to know what you think.
Zaugur
Mar 19 2006, 03:03 PM
Dont' know.Maybe yes,maybe not.
False Prophet
Mar 19 2006, 04:14 PM
Vampires as movies and books depict them... hmmm. I guess it's possible but I doubt any exist in the present.
misan
Mar 19 2006, 04:25 PM
I've always thought that vampires are real. I just don't think that vampires are like they're depicted in most movies, books, etc. ;)
Solipsistic Agnosticism
Mar 20 2006, 05:01 AM
I don't know, either way I cant prove whether or not they exist. The question rarely pops into my head until someone mentions it.
Regards, S. Agnostic
[*P3rfect.:.Di5asteR*]
Apr 6 2006, 10:25 PM
QUOTE (Solipsistic Agnosticism @ Mar 20 2006, 06:01 AM)

I don't know, either way I cant prove whether or not they exist. The question rarely pops into my head until someone mentions it.
Regards, S. Agnostic
All i am saying is; yes we (they) are real. I know this personally.
Episkopos
Apr 7 2006, 07:47 AM
As usual, depends on how you define vampires.
Parasitic humans who need blood or some indefinable psychic somethingorother to keep going? Yes.
Immortal, bulletproof blood-swilling murderers who burst into flames in daylight? Hah. Everything exists somewhere, but I know I'm never going to meet one.
Vicereine
Apr 7 2006, 01:35 PM
i only go on what i have experienced. But I can say, dependingon your definition... yes they exsist. That which i personally havent experienced doesnt necessarily not exsist purely because i havent experienced it
NotWhatSheSeems
Apr 9 2006, 03:23 PM
I love the taste of blood. My favorite way of getting it (well, there's 2) is 1) cutting my husband's thighs and licking the blood, or 2) bloodying him with my best English cane and again licking the bloody tracks. Am I a vampire? No. Do I believe in vampires? No. I believe those of us with a taste for red copper pennies have a FETISH, nothing more. I believe this fetish has existed for time immemorial; what can possibly get you harder or wetter than someone you love (or at least lust after at that moment) letting you taste their life force?
Doesn't make me (or any one else, for that matter) an immortal undead creature.
Now...where did he lay that cane?
D.
Richmonde
Apr 9 2006, 05:04 PM
personally i do not believe in vampires although there have been fossil evidence that i could be wrong, some people have found what they believe may be a vampire skeleton
BlackBladeGroM
Apr 14 2006, 12:02 PM
Vampires exist. And not only vampires like Rikkar, so-called HLV. But the real, undead vampires. My boss chick is one of them, for sure.
Rikkar
Apr 14 2006, 01:53 PM
QUOTE (BlackBladeGroM @ Apr 14 2006, 01:02 PM)

Vampires exist. And not only vampires like Rikkar, so-called HLV. But the real, undead vampires. My boss chick is one of them, for sure.
There is more to heaven and earth than you have dreamed of Horatio (or however that saying goes).
I am glad that you have me so conveniently labelled. Too bad you know little of me.
And, no, I am not undead.
bite me
Apr 14 2006, 02:10 PM
vampires ,are real they keep them selfs hiden, i know,
Liod
Apr 15 2006, 01:56 AM
QUOTE (bite me @ Apr 14 2006, 09:10 PM)

vampires ,are real they keep them selfs hiden, i know,
How do you know?
bite me
Apr 15 2006, 04:24 AM
i know because i am involed with them,
Richmonde
Apr 15 2006, 04:32 AM
personally i wont believe vampires are real until i have met or seen one
Hellarchy
Apr 16 2006, 02:14 PM
QUOTE (NotWhatSheSeems @ Apr 9 2006, 04:23 PM)

I love the taste of blood. My favorite way of getting it (well, there's 2) is 1) cutting my husband's thighs and licking the blood, or 2) bloodying him with my best English cane and again licking the bloody tracks. Am I a vampire? No. Do I believe in vampires? No. I believe those of us with a taste for red copper pennies have a FETISH, nothing more. I believe this fetish has existed for time immemorial; what can possibly get you harder or wetter than someone you love (or at least lust after at that moment) letting you taste their life force?
Doesn't make me (or any one else, for that matter) an immortal undead creature.
Now...where did he lay that cane?
D.
well, that post didnt not just turn me on...
and anyway, vampires totally exist...
Richmonde
Apr 16 2006, 02:21 PM
prove it then
Audoin Scylding
Apr 16 2006, 02:48 PM
QUOTE
prove it then
Prove absolutely, indisputably they do not exist. As has been said before on the board I am certain, all myth has some element of truth. The earliest lore and legends of the vampire were not simply plucked from the air. All legend concerning them has a basis even if some has since been determined to be a misinterpretation of something completely natural such as the decomposition of the body. Yet not all the legends can be so easily explained away.
In this strange and vast universe there are many undiscovered phenomenons. In fact the only thing that is absolute is that nothing is absolute.
Richmonde
Apr 16 2006, 02:53 PM
dont think i have experienced things that are not normal but all i ask is that if someone is a vampire send in a pic or video to prove it
Audoin Scylding
Apr 17 2006, 03:01 AM
Exactly how is a picture or video going to prove it? Actors are seen as vampires in the movies but they are not real vampires, no? There is no conclusive way to determine a real vampire online or through film.
bite me
Apr 17 2006, 04:56 AM
dont forget some vampires,. do not have a reflection,
Lollipop
Apr 17 2006, 05:26 AM
QUOTE (Audoin Scylding @ Apr 16 2006, 02:48 PM)

Prove absolutely, indisputably they do not exist.
So there might be giant man eating pink and purple polka dotted elephants living in africa that are worshipped by mole men who were given birth to by Britney Spears? And dont say that there arent because you cant actually disprove them because theyre magical and when you go searching for them they fly off on rainbows with their mole men worshippers to the land of leperachauns where it rains gum drops and the air smells of chocolate. -_-
Liod
Apr 17 2006, 06:10 AM
QUOTE (Night_Witch @ Apr 17 2006, 12:26 PM)

So there might be giant man eating pink and purple polka dotted elephants living in africa that are worshipped by mole men who were given birth to by Britney Spears? And dont say that there arent because you cant actually disprove them because theyre magical and when you go searching for them they fly off on rainbows with their mole men worshippers to the land of leperachauns where it rains gum drops and the air smells of chocolate. -_-
I think it can be rather easily proven that Britney Spears did not give birth to a giant or mole men...
Lollipop
Apr 17 2006, 06:17 AM
QUOTE (Clearwitch @ Apr 17 2006, 06:10 AM)

I think it can be rather easily proven that Britney Spears did not give birth to a giant or mole men...
Prove it then.
Liod
Apr 17 2006, 08:30 AM
She's been constantly photographed ever since she hit puberty, yet the only pregnancy she's known to have gone through yielded a rather normal human boy.
Got any actual arguments, and not silly ones?
Lollipop
Apr 17 2006, 08:37 AM
QUOTE (Clearwitch @ Apr 17 2006, 08:30 AM)

She's been constantly photographed ever since she hit puberty, yet the only pregnancy she's known to have gone through yielded a rather normal human boy.
Got any actual arguments, and not silly ones?
Why should I have a non-silly arguement in a thread that is talking about the living dead who drink the blood of humans to sustain their immortal existence?
Liod
Apr 17 2006, 09:14 AM
Because it would make it a lot more interesting to debate with you? ;)
Richmonde
Apr 17 2006, 11:16 AM
i still dont see why they cant send in a video or something showing them change into a vampire or doing something inhuman, saying no tells me they are just pretending and trying to act cool
Liod
Apr 17 2006, 11:27 AM
QUOTE (Richmonde @ Apr 17 2006, 06:16 PM)

i still dont see why they cant send in a video or something showing them change into a vampire or doing something inhuman, saying no tells me they are just pretending and trying to act cool
How do you change into a vampire..?
Can you send me a video or picture of you proving beyond doubt that you're a vegetarian?
Rikkar
Apr 17 2006, 12:20 PM
I believe beyond the shadow of a doubt that human vampires exist. I am differentiating the term "vampire" from the term "fetishist" or someone with a taste for blood the following way: those of us who call ourselves "vampires" need it or we sicken. We do not die but we sicken.
I am not saying why this is because I do not know. It might be a physical need, it might be an energy need, it might be a psychological need.
Whatever it is, if we do not get the stuff, we have certain very real negative symptoms. I shall list a few of mine: headache, nausea, sweats, tremors, cramps, my immune system seems to decrease and I get every bug that walks by (whether or not it is stress or physiologically related I know not), my heart messes up (again, stress?).
We also tend to have certain symptoms in common... these are open to much debate. The only one I am going to mention that seems to be common to most of us is sun sensitivity, and I know non-vampires are sun-sensitive.
However, we are quite human.
As far as immortals. I am hearing many people say immortals no not exist. Not "I do not think they exist", but "immortals do not exist".
How are we to say that? How can you disprove something that you have not seen? I have seen some say "show us pictures of becoming a vampire. This begs a few observations:
1) "becoming" a vampire indicates that they are not already a vampire and have to make a transformation. Now this is something that I find highly unlikely, personally... a gross physical transformation.
2) if someone does have such gross physical transformations, why would they desire to have these filmed for the world to see? If I could do such a thing, I most certainly would not film it and show anyone because to do so would lessen my chances of survival. Were I able to do this, I would want nobody to know.
Now, for my open mindedness I must say I do not believe in the undead as is described as having non-beating hearts and no vital signs. What differentiates me from others who hold this belief is that I am willing to have my mind changed. If I met an undead as in the non-beating heart sort, I would be willing to accept that s/he is real.
Richmonde
Apr 17 2006, 01:49 PM
QUOTE (Clearwitch @ Apr 17 2006, 05:27 PM)

How do you change into a vampire..?
Can you send me a video or picture of you proving beyond doubt that you're a vegetarian?
no can do i only eat meat no vegetables,dont need them
in theory vampires dont look like humans right otherwise that would be like calling a goat a goat and a hippo a goat aswell, they must look different even if its something small
Rikkar
Apr 17 2006, 02:49 PM
QUOTE (Richmonde @ Apr 17 2006, 01:49 PM)

no can do i only eat meat no vegetables,dont need them
in theory vampires dont look like humans right otherwise that would be like calling a goat a goat and a hippo a goat aswell, they must look different even if its something small
Not necessarily.
The changes between the immortal and the vampire could be completely internal.
A vastly different immortal would be less likely to meet the criteria of survival because if the immortal looked much different than the human, attention would be drawn to the immortal.
Richmonde
Apr 17 2006, 02:50 PM
how can a vampire control how he looks, nothing else can
Liod
Apr 17 2006, 03:09 PM
QUOTE (Richmonde @ Apr 17 2006, 09:50 PM)

how can a vampire control how he looks, nothing else can
Why would a vampire have to be bound by the same rules we are?
And I'm positive there are animals, birds or possibly fish that can change their appearance at will, or by necessity. I just can't think of any off the top of my head.
My vegetarian point was that there are so many things you can't possibly prove over the net, yet that doesn't make them any less real. A video of me proving how allergic I am to apples can be easily faked, and even if it wasn't it'd be dreadfully dull waiting four hours to see the result. But that doesn't make my allergy any less real.
Richmonde
Apr 17 2006, 03:12 PM
vampires drink blood yes so they need fangs to break the skin, what would be wrong with recording a video of there teeth extending into fangs
im sorry but it seems like total bullshit, anything can be proved with evidence you just need to look harder to find it
Liod
Apr 17 2006, 03:14 PM
And now that I actually comprehended Rikkar's post, nothing in it says a vampire can control his looks But it's about evolution. Any being that isn't fit for surbvival won't survive, the species that are, will. If a vampire was different enough physichally to draw attention, we'd have hunted them down long since. But nature usually fixes it so the species that are meant to, survive.
QUOTE (Richmonde @ Apr 17 2006, 10:12 PM)

vampires drink blood yes so they need fangs to break the skin, what would be wrong with recording a video of there teeth extending into fangs
im sorry but it seems like total bullshit, anything can be proved with evidence you just need to look harder to find it
Who needs fangs when there are knives? Humans eat meat, yet we don't have the teeth of a carnivore at all. Why is that?
Richmonde
Apr 17 2006, 03:16 PM
yes but something that does everything a human does exactly surely is a human, even if vampires did exist everyone in here seems to have different views on what they can and cant do, people who claim to be vampires or just know a lot abput them, and they are all different so it seems that it is beeing made up and the only way to porve otherwise is evidence
Ravager
Apr 17 2006, 03:29 PM
QUOTE (Richmonde @ Apr 17 2006, 03:16 PM)

......it seems that it is beeing made up and the only way to porve otherwise is evidence
Then evidence is also needed to prove that it is being made up, don't you think?
I do think though, that at this point and under these circumstances it's kind of difficult to prove any way given.
Richmonde
Apr 17 2006, 03:31 PM
well thats just the way i see things, i will not believe vampires exist until i meet one or somehow evidence is found
Liod
Apr 17 2006, 03:31 PM
It all depends on the definition of vampire. I suspect we're all discussing completely different ideas of what a vampire is, and that makes it hard to argue any side.
Richmonde
Apr 17 2006, 03:33 PM
thats my point how does anyone know what a vampire looks like and how it acts if they exist
Liod
Apr 17 2006, 03:49 PM
QUOTE (Richmonde @ Apr 17 2006, 10:33 PM)

thats my point how does anyone know what a vampire looks like and how it acts if they exist
Excactly. So how do you know the guy next to you on the bus isn't a vampire?
Richmonde
Apr 17 2006, 03:50 PM
but how do you know vampires excist at all
Liod
Apr 17 2006, 03:55 PM
QUOTE (Richmonde @ Apr 17 2006, 10:50 PM)

but how do you know vampires excist at all
I can't know. Just as I can't know if the platypus is real, if God exists, if shampoo really has vitamins in it or if potatoes is good for you. You can't know everything for a fact, sometimes you just have to choose what you want to believe. You can base these choices on whatever evidence you feel is suitable, or none at all, but that won't change what they are, your chosen beliefs.
There's no way of knowing is anything is true. All we can do is make educated guesses.
How can you know vampires don't exist?
Angelica the Succubus
Apr 17 2006, 03:59 PM
Vampires are not real. There are many wannabes hence..Darkness.com. I think if Vampires were real, they'd all be suffering from Rickets due to a lack of Vitamin D from the sun. Some people like to eat feces, some like to lap up blood. It's all mental illness. They're not Vampires.

duh
QUOTE
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All i am saying is; yes we (they) are real. I know this personally.
MENTAL ILLNESS DARLING!
Richmonde
Apr 17 2006, 04:01 PM
QUOTE (Clearwitch @ Apr 17 2006, 09:55 PM)

I can't know. Just as I can't know if the platypus is real, if God exists, if shampoo really has vitamins in it or if potatoes is good for you. You can't know everything for a fact, sometimes you just have to choose what you want to believe. You can base these choices on whatever evidence you feel is suitable, or none at all, but that won't change what they are, your chosen beliefs.
There's no way of knowing is anything is true. All we can do is make educated guesses.
How can you know vampires don't exist?
well i can prove platypusses exist cause i have seen one
Liod
Apr 17 2006, 04:16 PM
QUOTE (Richmonde @ Apr 17 2006, 11:01 PM)

well i can prove platypusses exist cause i have seen one
I haven't. Can you prove it to me?
QUOTE (Angelica the Succubus @ Apr 17 2006, 10:59 PM)

Vampires are not real. There are many wannabes hence..Darkness.com. I think if Vampires were real, they'd all be suffering from Rickets due to a lack of Vitamin D from the sun. Some people like to eat feces, some like to lap up blood. It's all mental illness. They're not Vampires.

duh
MENTAL ILLNESS DARLING!
Isn't that a little assuming, accusing a large portion of the members of having mental illnesses?
Imagibe if I did the same on a christian forum..?
Richmonde
Apr 17 2006, 04:18 PM
yeah well no offense but i belive christanity is fake, but thats just my oppinion
Liod
Apr 17 2006, 04:19 PM
QUOTE (Richmonde @ Apr 17 2006, 11:18 PM)

yeah well no offense but i belive christanity is fake, but thats just my oppinion
That is your opinion. That doesn't in any way make it the absolute truth. It's a decision you've made, to not believev in it.
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