Hello.
This forum begins with "Enter the Darkness", and then someone is wishing Merry Christmas, does anyone know what Christmas is ?
Does anyone here know what is the difference between light and darkness?
All of you seem to love vampires or vampyres, but i´ll bet that none of you realy like vampires, you people care only for their power.
Some of you drink blood, a word of advice everytime you do so, you open a door to demonic possession, in others words those who drink blood became a slave of someone else. This demon of blood seduces with a sense of power, but it´s not your power it´s his power.
Some of you think that vampires are fake, well unfortunely they are not fakes. Real vampires do exist, but they are not humans anymore.
To became a vampire means that you embrace the darkness forever, and that is not a good thing. (Test yourself if that what you want, for example live without sunlight for a week, i mean not see the sun for 7 days.)
This is just a stupid test, becouse light is not sun light, and darkness is not the night. You must see the light or darkness to understand it.
(The light i am refering is the same that you see when your dead if you are a good person).
So those who enter darkness will never celebrate Christmas, the good news are that Jesus is the path to the light.
I mean good news becouse entering darkness is easy, but coming out is not so easy, in fact is very difficult, it can only be done with the help of God.
You must be wonder why am i writing all of this, well long time ago i was a evil man, my favorite expression "bad to the bones", i was a wicked criminal and using drugs , one day i was sleeping ,(home alone), around 2 PM(day time) and i was having bad dreams, suddently i waked and saw a woman
standing over me, floating above me, her dress was like a bride , but like if it was in the dirt, she had brown curly hair, i didn´t had time to see the color of her eyes but i saw her mouth very well, in fact she had blood on her mouth, my blood. Her teeth were like cat teeth.
I tryed to catch her (grab her) but she turned into a spider and disapeared into the carpet. In my bleeding neck were two holes.
Well at this time i tryed to protect myself with movie stuff about vampires, garlic, cross,holy water, etc, but nothing worked, becouse i was getting weaker, and my neck wounds never healing.
Until one night ,i was working in a theatre (not cinema), (alone), and i started to hear noises
from the roof, i went to investigate but found nothing, coming back down , again the noises , i looked up and saw a black cat tipping the roof glass and looking at me, when i reached the roof top it was gone, but the sounds were the same i used to hear in my own house, so i figured out that she was using a cat form and that in presence of other cats she could not be. So i got myself two kittens, and she was gone.
However this doesn´t end here, at this time i was so weak that i could only find strengh in blood. I was not eating , but started to drink animal blood, becouse the hunger just wouldn´t stop. As i refered earlier i was using drugs, but i stoped using them in favor of blood, blood becomed my favorite drug, and it was intoxicating. It made me powerfull, my strengh increased very much (at the point of throwing mans into the air, or grab them with just one hand, until they feel helpless), my youth coming back (i was getting youger, about 10 years),i was moving quickly (sometimes i used to surprise my friends, without they see me,
but knowing that i was there), my vision and smell were also improved.
Well all of this was great i felt like if i was invencible, but then i realized the price.
The price is what i earlier spoke about, the price of being in darkness alone. (Way from the light).
Yes i suddently started to realize that this powers come with a heavy price, becouse hell does exist and my eternity would be there.
I started having dreams, dreams that seem real, of nasty place, where my future was written.
And then latter on, when i was thinking on human blood and preparing myself to get it, i realized that this blood powers were a lie, the price was to heavy.
To be real strong, young, powerfull does not pay an eternity of pain. And believe me it ain´t small.
Some of you think that you can take it, but i bet different. (and i will win, for sure).
So i turned to God and asked for his help. Amazing Jesus did ear me and brought me to the light again, the pain is gone, the alone feeling is gone,
the agony is gone, and the best of all is that if i want something all i have got to do is ask God. (He may not give them to me, but he always hears.)
Finaly i can now celebrate Christmas again, with all my heart.
So in this forum you people say enter the darkness , i say (deja vu) enter the light.

Best Regards and Merry Christmas to you all.
Pardon my bad english (i am foreign).

Firstly, welcome to the forum. All opinions are received here and intelligent conversation is always welcome. I would like to point out that a great many of us here do infact know what Christmas is. Also from what it stems, and a great many of us also know the bible very well.

I wish you a merry christmas and hope you enjoy your new path. That it is right for you and brings you joy. As mine does mine.

Should you however, not much like the subject matter of this particular section of the forum. Might i suggest you look at the rest of the site and engage in some conversation before discrediting an entire site based on one section.

As I said, all opinions welcome. All those wanting conversation or debate, all the more so.

Merry Christmas

Vicereine, wow, why can't everybody be that nice to the above guy?

Hello!
I did not mean to disrupt this forum, I am sorry, but your fantasy is much real to me.
As I said vampires do exist and so does darkness. Choosing the dark side is not a cleaver move.
How many times did you look into the dark and felt secure? (especially when you are alone).
I used to brag of doing so, until I start to follow a more dark path, and in there what I found was only deception and deceive a long side with pain and agony.
I am also not doubting of your Christmas, I do respect everyone and their believes.
What I am saying is that dark and light does not mix together. So if some of you want to be vampires then you may start by drawing a line between good and evil. If you do so you realize that the dark side does not pay back, because there are many good things that you have to abdicate.
By your answers I now know that you people just like to fantasy about the subject, and that makes you good persons, I am glad to know that.
I don´t want to judge you, I think everyone should be free to make their own decisions.
But realize this, the dark side won´t give anything to you, instead it will use you.
Do you know anything about demonic possession?
Let me say to you that every person, every normal person that you know (>3 year age) was used by a demon. In this life if you open doors to creatures they will came in.
Let me give you an example:
You start smoking, your spirit became sad with you, and in some situations like a party you smoke a entire pack of cigarettes, your sad spirit abandons, you will be open to attacks, a bad spirit enters you and makes you brag that you can take the smoke, that to you no harm will come. Later on you catch a cold as punishment. Now if you place yourself in an ancient war between good and evil, if you are an important character you may get a pneumonia or even cancer.
Drinking blood is opening a hall door (a big door), so you see vampirism is a big deal, even if you don´t became a vampire for real, you will be choosing a side, (a side that doesn´t care for you and where only the strong rules).
So all of us are important in this world, we just don´t know for what.
The question is how do we remain free to our own decisions?
As Jesus said the truth will set you free.
Again I am sorry if in anyway my words bite deep.
Best Regards.

I used to be a Catholic, now I am agnostic. I do not believe in god and nor do I believe in the devil. I respect those that do but I in my almost 31 years have never seen any indication that such beings exist.
I do not believe in demonic possession, I do however believe in mental illness and disease. Most everything that was once attributed to demonic possession can now be explained though science and medicine.

I also do not believe in vampires of folklore. Like god and the devil I have seen no such evidence and don't care if I ever do. There are some mighty fine people on this board that live a vampire lifestyle and they are very nice individuals that would never harm a fly.
People live different lifestyles and each person tries to choose the lifestyle they feel most comfortable with.

If you believe that god protects you from evil spirits then of course more power to you and may god watch over you and keep you from harm.

Erm

Now why did not someone tell me I was entering the Dark Side 31 years ago? I am certain I could have stopped being a vampire. Kerubyn, could you please explain exactly why what I do is wrong? Please tell me exactly how what I do tarnishes my soul?

Does this mean I have to stop celebrating Christmas? I am already drinking coffee from one of my early Christmas presents... a stainless steel insulated coffee mug with a caffeine molecule on the side. I know. I am evil incarnate.

I suppose I had best tell everyone that my Christmas presents are tainted.

Oh damn.

Oh, by the way, Merry Christmas.

Hello.
For you CultHero, do you know what I do for living, I am a scientist, I study and practice chemical engineering, and after 8 years I still cant explain many things in this life. I also have many physicians (doctors) my friends, and the most part (almost all) every time they go to operations room they pray to god for help, because none of them can in fact control all aspects of the human body. But ei I respect you, if you feel safe like that best for you.
For you Rikkar I do not believe you are such evil man. I mean what evil have you done to gain such designation? Does not count just saying I am evil. Most people I know that says that just wants to feel protected, because they believe that if they are evil they are stronger (a classical mistake).
Well from my part I am 32 years old and passed since 17 until 26 being evil, I been to jail one year not for sure for saying that I was evil.
Do you want to know how my Christmas was back then?
I sure hell didn´t wake up smelling coffee by the morning.
Well but thanks to the glory of god every thing changes.
Anyway I don’t wish you that kind of Christmas. I wish you a very happy Christmas.
And also to all you MERRY CHRISTMAS.
Best Regards.

Kerubyn welcome to the dakrness - for a starter.

Regarding your posts ... what to say .. I think you have the same misconception regarding dark side and light etc as others I have seen. Things are not simply dark & light, good & evil - nothing is that easily apparent. I think that there are different ... shades shall we say. You are not evil from merely accepting a life style and it being, well different from what most people accept and understand. To be evil, I think you would have to have done some seriously bad things in your life (one example, killing more than once and feeling no remorse for that person or what you have done).

If you live a life style of ... oh I don't know ... a vampire ... that does not necessarily mean you are evil, most if not all are extremely pleasant and understanding people. I feel If you are a little different from the so called 'Norm', then you are able to accept someone easier for who they are ... I'm not saying this is the case all the time, I'm just stating it from personal opinion.

I think that there is not longer a fine and distinguishable line between light & dark, good & evil. people have changed and so have their perceptions of this. But that's just what I think!

But anyway ... I hope you have a Merry Christmas and New Year.

I have always been quite fascinated with all things science, you have a job I would truly envy. You are right there are many things in the world that have as of yet no explanations. Each time we make a new discovery I am even more intrigued. Who knows what the future holds perhaps some day humans will even be able to eliminate the limitations of space travel and discover we are not alone in the universe. The future is full of possibilities.

Personally I am bipolar, I have a mental illness. This was not caused by evil spirits, it was caused by chemical imbalances in the brain. As a scientist you probably know more about chemical imbalances than I, a patient ever could.

Even though I do not believe in god I am in fact a very good person. I give to charity, I am kindhearted, I respect all matters of life, I love animals and I am always willing to help those in need.

I'm sure if god exists 'he' can see the good that I have managed to do in this world, not because of some belief in some great reward in the afterlife but simply because kindness is part of my nature.

And also a very merry Christmas to you as well. :)

I am not at all evil.

I am 43, have been "awakened" for 31 years. I have many things considered "dark" or "alternative" about me. I am a vampire, I would be considered by many to be a bit of an oversexed pervert (ok more than a bit), like things associated with "dark" (the music, the art, aught as collars, and so forth).

I am also a good man. I am kind and loyal to those I love. I would defend to the death someone who was being abused.

I don't know Rikkar, you do have that heartless creature The Grinch as your avatar AND you opened a Christmas present early... I'm starting to have my doubts about you. :P

Oh I know. Evil incarnate. I also do not wear my seatbelt when I am in the car, despite Lady I's fussing. :P

I also decorated Lady I's room with Christmas ornaments, including putting a wreath on the whip she and I like. She never knows where my singing Scooby shall turn up. She is a nervous wreck.

Muah hah hah hahaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I am evil incarnate.

OMG I don't wear my seat belt either! I also know the complete lyrics to the SpongeBob Squarepants theme... I'm doomed. :P

I am Rikkar's Prime, what that is is I am first in his heart. He, as he has said, is a vampire. I am not a vampire but I am a dark soul, that doesnt make me evil (though I often say I am, everyone knows its a lie). Well, ok, so I am just a tad.....sadistic. I would still give my life to defend someone even if I did not know them. I prefer dark over light, Christmas decorations give me the willies. I'd much rather have chains on the walls, skeletons hung by the fireplace with care, that sort of thing. Christmas songs make me grit my teeth, doesnt mean I hate Christ.

I do not believe that by being "dark" someone will spend eternity being tormented and punished, if we are made in God's image, doesnt it make sense that God has a dark side? Come on, He cant be all love and cuddles, read the Bible!

I dont think that by drinking blood, you give control of yourself to that person, and I dont think it invites demonic possession. I do believe that demonic possession is possible, but not all Demons are the horrid, evil things Christianity portrays. Dont ask me how I know, you wouldnt believe it anyway.

[quote=Kerubyn]You start smoking, your spirit became sad with you, and in some situations like a party you smoke a entire pack of cigarettes, your sad spirit abandons, you will be open to attacks, a bad spirit enters you and makes you brag that you can take the smoke, that to you no harm will come. Later on you catch a cold as punishment. Now if you place yourself in an ancient war between good and evil, if you are an important character you may get a pneumonia or even cancer.[/quote]

Um...that one confuses me a tad. So, if someone smokes, it is because their spirit became sad? If you smoke too much, your sad spirit will abandon you? Then the person catches a cold as "punishment" and now they are in a war of good and evil?? You will only get pneumonia or cancer if you are an "important character"? Science really needs to know these things, it will help greatly in the battle against cancer. I know you were using that as an example, but it's a little cockeyed.

[quote=Kerubyn]By your answers I now know that you people just like to fantasy about the subject, and that makes you good persons, I am glad to know that.[quote]

I do not fantasize about the subject.

[quote=Kerubyn]Drinking blood is opening a hall door (a big door), so you see vampirism is a big deal, even if you don´t became a vampire for real, you will be choosing a side, (a side that doesn´t care for you and where only the strong rules).[/quote]

Drinking blood does not mean you have chosen sides dearie. Vampires need a certain kind of energy and "living" blood provides that.

Jesus may have said the truth will set you free, but the "truth" has been severely warped and really no one can tell what the original truth was. I do not think I would have to face everlasting torment because I think for myself and have formed my own ideas about Deities, but if that is the case, then God is more like the KGB than a loving Father. If someone tells me that I have to give up my own thoughts and beliefs or face Hell, I'd rather be in Hell. BTW, if vampires go to Hell, then I will go there with mine.

Spongebob? You are evil, CultHero, evil I say!

I enjoy aught as Beetlejuice (Lydia is damned hot), Rocky and Bullwinkle, Bugs and Daffy. I am addicted to Drawn Together and aspire to be like Bender on Futurama.

Mayhaps we should go conquer the world, CultHero?

The Grinch is my hero, and THE WORLD IS MINE FOOLISH ONES! BOW BEFORE MY GREATNESS OR MY ARMY OF MUTANT PLANT PEOPLE WILL BEAT YOU UP!
I am so evil.
You know, evil is live spelled backwards. NOW I AM SPELLING WORDS BACKWARDS...OH FEAR ME! (Had a little too much coffee this morning)

As a lapsed Catholic I've been told I have a spot reserved in hell already, SpongeBob is just icing on the cake. :P

Man, I miss the Beeltejuice cartoon! that was the best!
Grew up on He-Man, Transformers, Real Ghost Busters (a true classic!), Spider Man and his Amazing Friends... the cartoon list is endless.

Bender is my hero.

A day used watching cartoons is a day well spent.

*prepares to take over the world with army of cartoon characters* :P

I adore Real Ghost Busters.

Real Ghost Busters and Beetlejuice.

We are damned, damned.

My favorite Futurama was when Bender became human in an alternate universe produced by The Finglonger machine (I think it was... or am I combining a few in my mind?). Bender proceeded to debauch himself to death and was awarded a nobel prize for it in front of a room full of stuffy scientists.

What a way to go! He's my hero and role model.

I had my seat in Hell reserved from my first taste of the good red stuff 31 years ago. At least according to some people, such as the original poster in this thread. I may as well go for the gold.

looks for a Spongebob episode...

Hello.
First of all none of you is a real vampire. Because as I said before I have seen a vampire, I have been attacked by a vampire (and she did not have no humanity in her).
They exist and their existence is a cursed one.
Cursed means to suffer from something unnatural, and vampires suffer from their own existence in this world.
There humans that drink blood, and for that considers themselves vampires, but they are not vampires, because most people in this world drink blood (all carnivores do).
Drinking blood does not make you a vampire.
Now you can think that you are vampires and have special gifts like vampires do, but you don’t. You suffer like all the humans, you cry like all the humans and you might think that you can resist pain better than others, but in reality you can not.
I do however pity you people, you desire power, but in this world the only way of getting power is working for it, not drinking blood.
Yes I know reality its pain full.
I entered this forum with the single purpose of finding a story, similar to my one, but I have not found nothing like it.
Maybe my story was a mind trick, maybe I invented all in my mind , and set myself to believe in that.
In the end we all desire to live forever.
I think the question is where are we going to live forever and not how?
Hell does not seem a good choice, you people choose it, because you hate god or just because you think god hates you.
Maybe god really hates you, and in the end he doesn´t gives a sh.. about you people. Who can blame him?
How many of you loved him, for him to love you back.
I just know you people 1 day and I already hate the most part of you.
Imagine spending all eternity with all you folks:
I am the big bad vampire, no I ´am the big big bad bad vampire, and in the end its : mommy where is my sleeping blanket.
No I don’t realy hate you folks.
All the gothics I know are in reality very nice people.
(Not realy Hellish people like most part of you believe it is).
I think that its not the believes of one that determinates our future, but our daily actions.
Best Regards.

Yes Kerubyn, there are real vampires here. What you saw was a type of vampire, there are many types, who are you to say they are not real vampires, you have never met them. My vampire is the real thing, I know, I live with him. He needs blood, he doesnt just want it. If he doesnt feed, he will become physically ill and weak.


Rikkar does not really desire power, he is what he is. He drinks blood because, like I said, he needs to do so.


Many of the vampires in here do not claim to be physically immortal. As I am sure you are well aware, the soul is immortal and can come back to the Earth in flesh. Rikkar and I have been together many times in the past, we know this from exploring our memories.


I do not think God hates me and I do not choose Hell, but if I am condemned because I love a vampire and because I think for myself, then so be it; I will not give up either.


We are quite well aware that Goths are not hellish people, there are many Goths here.

You really need to open your mind a bit, you say that vampires exist but when someone says they are a vampire, you say they are not because they are not the type of vampire with which you have met. Rikkar is a vampire. He is not evil, does not desire great power, does not claim to be physically immortal, and does not hate God. You need to do a bit more research. I cannot speak for all vampires, I only speak of Rikkar because I know and love him.

Uhm, Sire? I am going to try to be good.

There humans that drink blood, and for that considers themselves vampires, but they are not vampires, because most people in this world drink blood (all carnivores do).
---Do you not read English? Have you not been in these forums, reading our words? Do you really believe that immortals exist and that I (I offer myself as an example) am not a vampire if I am not immortal? *Post edited by Rikkar because Sire would ban me for it*.

Drinking blood does not make you a vampire.
---uhm, again, have you not read our posts? When does anyone claim that but drinking blood a vampire makes. Have we not stated that being a vampire is dependent upon whether or not we need it? Now, before you go off on me saying I do not need it and thusly demonstrate that you cannot use the search function and have not the interest in bothering to look, "needing" blood can be physiological or psychological. It is not up to me to say one way or another.

Now you can think that you are vampires and have special gifts like vampires do, but you don’t. You suffer like all the humans, you cry like all the humans and you might think that you can resist pain better than others, but in reality you can not.
---tell me, when have I, or any other reputable poster on this board, claimed otherwise? *post edited by Rikkar because Sire would ban me for it*

I do however pity you people, you desire power, but in this world the only way of getting power is working for it, not drinking blood.
---*Post edited by Rikkar because Sire would ban me for it* What in your *edited* mind has given you the idea that most of us seek power? *edited*

Yes I know reality its pain full.
---*Post edited by Rikkar because Sire would ban me for it*. Mumbles.

I am the big bad vampire, no I ´am the big big bad bad vampire, and in the end its : mommy where is my sleeping blanket.
No I don’t realy hate you folks.
---*Post edited by Rikkar because Sire would ban me for it*

Little man, if you desire to have an intelligent converstation, please do two things: 1) do your research 2) show some courtesy.

Pffffffffffffffffffft.

walks off muttering to watch Spongebob while drinking coffee, planning to take over the world

Licks pencil, makes note to myself about the newbie to add to my most favorite list.

LMFAO Rikkar I applaud your restraint! :P

Now, Kerubyn, I myself am not a vampire. To those who are I say rock on.
I do not seek power, in fact I am the furthest thing from someone with power you can get. I am a tiny little speck in the sea of humanity and I highly doubt that if god exists he is paying much attention to me.

Personally I suffer from something VERY natural, it's called mental illness. No spirits nor demons as I have stated before.

I am but a poor goth who sleeps all day and watches cartoons all night. I still sleep with a friggin stuffed animal... If I am evil, it's a nice fluffy kinda evil. ^_^

And on another note:

Remember that episode when Bender adopted all those orphans cause he got government subsidies for them? That was great. When he couldn't afford to keep them he tried to sell them off as meat. That was hilarious. :lol:

LMFAO Rikkar I applaud your restraint! :P
----thankyou :) I did hold my tongue a little bit.

Personally I suffer from something VERY natural, it's called mental illness. No spirits nor demons as I have stated before.
---what is sad is that some people actually believe that drivel today. I do not know which is worse... having a mental illness or being a vampire. :P

I am but a poor goth who sleeps all day and watches cartoons all night. I still sleep with a friggin stuffed animal... If I am evil, it's a nice fluffy kinda evil. ^_^
---I have a two and a half foot teddy in the corner of my room. I love cartoons. Being an old fogey, I do have a soft spot for Bugs. I wanted to put in my above post to what-his-name "You are a maroon" ("moron" in Bugs talk). CultHero, we are evil. Evil I say.

Remember that episode when Bender adopted all those orphans cause he got government subsidies for them? That was great. When he couldn't afford to keep them he tried to sell them off as meat. That was hilarious. :lol:
---Oh good Gods CultHero, I recall that one.

Bender's romantic exploits were awe inspiring as well. Bender and the Planet Express Ship. Bender and the femcomputer on the planet of Death by Snoo Snoo (I want to go that way). Bender had fame. He was a soap opera star who got in the door by being Calculon's hot water heater. He also won the Iron Chef contest after he trained under the tutelage of the space hoboken (I forgot what it is called) Yoda, receiving a small vial of the magic elixor which made everything taste grand. When he had his masculine robot oils changed for feminine oils and won the robot olympics?

Bender is a God.

Wile E Coyote was always my favorite, Poor little bugger never got a break. :P Daffy is my second fave. Taz is my third. ^_^

I also absolutely adore Animaniacs and Pinky and the Brain, pure genius!

Heck, I'm too much a freak to worry about what others think. Let them believe what they want, no skin off my nose. ^_^

And Bender is indeed a god. B)

I so desired Wile E. to catch the Roadrunner. I would ache to see him get that bird just once. I have always loved Taz. I had a particular soft spot for that bulldog in the old Loony Tunes who barked furiously at a kitten one day (his forquarters jumping up and down), only to melt when the kitten mewled at him. He spent the rest of that series of cartoons with that kitten kneading and snuggling into his shoulders while he (the bulldog) winced, finally both settling in. Daffy's Pipe Full 'o' Fun Kit is another of my all time favorites.

Here is my all time Loony Tunes favorite...

with, of course, his arch nemesis, Duck Dogders.

Mel Blanc was a genious!

I love Animaniacs and Pinky. I can never get enough of them.

If what's-his-name happens by, which I believe he shall, I hasten to tell him that his belief in me does not affect my reality. His liking or disliking of me is not going to send me out to fall on my sword. Ok I do admit that I might, just might, look forward to venting my spleen on him again (looks nervously around for Sire with his Ban Stick). Ok I might have enjoyed that just a little too much.

Freak? I have worn that title for quite some time. It started in California when those in the mainstream attempted to ridicule us. We took that name for ourselves and made it "ours". I took a non-goth friend to a goth club quite some time ago and she feared that she would be treated poorly. I assured her she would not. Of course, she was treated grandly. She sat back as I danced away but had a grand time regardless.

It is times like that that make me proud to be a freak. I do not dress or look goth right now (mainly because I is po'), but, in my heart, I am a freak and when I see a goth I feel comfortable. I am much more likely to speak with a goth than many other people.

I always have a soft spot for any characters who are misfits or misjudged. For some reason those strike home to me. I wonder why :P


We shall be together again.

Kerubyn, young man, is not what you believe yourself to be a function of your mind? For instance, is not the color of your hair but a word, something believed upon by yourself and others? Note Lady I's support of me. Others in my life (I mean real life, not just online) support me fully. That is what matters.

Note Cult Hero. He says he is not a vampire but supports my right to believe I am. Take a lesson from him.

If you have frequented the vampire boards, you are obviously not paying much attention to them.

Actually my true name means little man, and my middle name is war (my real name).
I am not kidding its true.
Look I know that I am nasty sometimes, you don’t have to worry no more, cos this is probably my last post.
I wonder to know about vampires, because when that vamp bite me she transferred some weird stuff to me.
Not AIDS or Hepatite but something different.
I live in a village that is more than 1000 years old (without counting the romans, and mourish (muçulmans) before). The church have more than 600 years.
Sometime ago, a telecommunications company decided to dig up the graveyard next to the church (because it was no longer a graveyard). And among the skeletons of normal people, some rather peculiar skulls were found, some of them had big teeth, I mean little finger size teeth.
After this the vampire bite me.
So I started to investigate who was buried in that cemetery.
Turns out that nobody new nothing. But in this village everyone speaks of creatures from the other side for a long time. I mean all sorts of creatures.
They have tons of folklore tales. Even how to cure a werewolf.
I resolved to investigate deeper, so in the church records I found that a sorcerer was buried there, alive because they had fear in killing her. Before getting into the ground the sorcerer cast one last spell. She swore that one day a foreign will came ,look at her true face, and will be her instrument of revenge, until there the village will be coursed forever with creatures from the deep. Later records tell that 200 years later, a exorcist from the Vatican itself, performed a exorcism to prevent the creatures to come out from the beyond. (translation exactly). The exorcism become famous in the village because a stone is still there protecting the way in (or out). The people call this stone the devil stone, and still in this days people fear to pass there, cos the ancients passed the tale that who even touch the stone will be pulled inside of hell itself.
I have been at the stone, is just a normal stone.
No matter, what matter is that I was the person who saw her face, I saw her skull, (it was me digging up the graves, as a summer job), and I think she was the vamp who bite me, and I didn´t born in this village, I am an outsider here, I was born and lived at the city before coming here.
The only way I found to stop her from drinking my blood was having cats around me,
I don’t know how, but she cant reach me when the cats are there.
Maybe she wasn´t a vampire at all. She can just control vampiric powers at her will.
Why my blood? I do not make part of those (descendents) who killed her.
Is she planning turning me a vampire to serve her, and take revenge for her?
Who are the descendents? It could be my best friend or even my girlfriend.
In the end does not matter anymore, because if she is planning using me, in her dark plot, she could not be a good person, so I think she deserve what happened to her.
I will find a way to get rid of her once and for all.
That is what I was looking in this forums.
But I guess it was just a waist of time, probably none of you ever heard nothing like this.
How do one kill a vampiric sorcerer that is already dead ?

I am sorry if I upset any of you. I don’t have much time to read the entire forum, and get to know all of the vampiric lifestyle.
Rikkar you could be a vampire, but I am sure that in no way you are a vampire of the kind that I am seeking, and I seek to know how to destroy them, because time urges for me.
I don’t know how long I can keep this vamp way from me. She wants more than just my blood, and she is very powerfull.
She have no humans body , but she can assume the form of some animals.
Sample of the saliva found in my neck wounds revealed cat saliva.(this before I owned any cat), And I don’t have big holes in my home or opened windows when I am sleeping.

Rikkar I will not even comment your lifestyle, because I don’t think its wrong.
If you believe that you are a vampire then you are a vampire, if you don’t hurt other people then I guess its fine for me.
I am not picturing you in the vampiric skulls I have found, they look more like nosferatu movie character.
But I will picture you as Dracula, and Culthero as Reinfeld.

Best Regards.
Also Pardon for my poor English

erm

Nosferatu movie character? I hope mine is not like this. I am a bit vain.

You would have to ask CultHero if he desires to be Renfield. It is not a high paying job. Insects and all that, you know. If I was offered the job of Dracula as portrayed in the movies, I would have to decline. No mirrors (shudders), cannot eat garlic, living in a castle without central heat and air? I think not.

I would not mind having three wives.

Ok so I am like Dracula in that regard. I do have what some have described as a "harem". (I am polyamorous) :D:D

I wish you luck, however, your road is to be a long one. You shall not find any of the ilk you seek advertising upon the net. Were I an immortal vampire, I would most certainly not speak of it openly. I do not say they do not exist for how can I know for certain that something does not exist? I might suggest to you that some at Darkness might not respond well to your tales. Darkness members tend to be a bit, shall we say, touchy about any claiming the "supernatural".

I would like to locate the meaning of the name "Rikkar". All I know is that it is Slavic and appears to be a family name.

Ah well. shrugs

Reinfield? Pshaw, I am so much cooler than Reinfeild. Just a sec, Tom Waits played Reinfield in Bram Stoker's Dracula... Tom Waits is cool... Ok, I'm in! :P (no flies for me though, I'm practically a vegetarian! :lol:

And by the by, if it's info on supernatural vampires ye be lookin' for I just may be of some use after all. I'm somewhat of a vampire folklorist myself. I write vampire books and thus have done quite a bit of research on the subject. Just because I don't believe in vampires don't mean I don't know oodles about them. B)

CATS! No wonder I've never been attacked by the undead before! I've got four of the little darlings.

Ain't they sweet? ^_^

Truth be told my old town was built on an old Native Canadian burial ground. It's believed that the land is cursed. There is a reservation nearby and many Natives refuse to go into the town for fear of upsetting their dead ancestors.

*starts singing "I don't want to grow up" in preparation to step into Tom Waits shoes.* B)

ok... i was only skimming as im not quite myself at the moment and had to rejoin the conversation.

With regards to Rikkar. He is a vampire. As Innanna said there are many types of vampire. He is one type. I am another type.

But im not going to discuss that now. It was breifly touched upon about there being 'grey' areas. that there is not good and evil and nothing in between.

I would like touch more on this.

Now, newcomer, I do not attack others beliefs and that will not change. But what i do ask of you is that you thoroughly research your own religeon. It is not NOT all sweetness and light. There are some very dark times and dark belief in christianity and catholocism is one of the darkest factions.

I have no quarral with one wanting to defend their beleifs or their lifestyle. I only ask that they do so in an informed way.

Look into your faith and find its ties to the muslim faith.

Research other faiths and find that all ancient beliefs and a few modern ones, infact most belief systems aside from christianity are based in the quest for balance.

They recognise there is a place for good AND bad in this world. Light and dark. All things have an opposite and equal force.. isnt that one of the scientific basics??

As stated previously, welcome to the forum. Also stated, intelligent and thought out arguement is welcomed. What i fear you came to do, warn the masses and save them at christmas time, is alittle premature. you see in our opinion there is nothing weneed be saved from.....

But please, stay and talk a while

Vicereine

There are many legends of such things, remember, to every legend there is at least a kernel of truth.


You did say you were digging up the graves as a summer job and you encountered her skull? If so, then that is why she has come to you.


Apparently, you are that foreigner.


I have heard of cats being able to ward off a creature such as you describe. What you saw was probably either an incubus or sucubus (I always get them confused!) You may want to do some research about those creatures.

I wasn't going to post anything but this has got my attention. In what country do you live?




You can not kill a vampiric sorcerer's soul.

I was thinking further upon this.

For my first decade awakened I was very interested in legends. I could tell the country of origin, the local name of their vampire, the legends surrounding this.

I have forgotten much. However, I am certain I can locate these things again.

What country are you from? If possible, what part of that country?

I might be able to take a looksee.

Here is someone who might be able to help you...

Vampiric Studies

She does not deal with what you describe, however, she deals with the more controversial of the theories. I suggest poking abouts and, if you find naught to help on her site, possibly emailing her. I believe this woman truly knows her vampire lore and has researched it thoroughly.

Tom Waits was indeed cool as Renfield. However, that whole bug eating thing simply does not move me. Dracula would have had to screw off before I ate a spider or fly.

the weird thing is that the story he told sounds very familiar....he either saw it on tv or read it somewhere and told us...or he lives in a village in my country.

I was immediately thinking Romania, or at least one of the Slavic nations. I imagine you could tell him much if he can tell you which village. I would desire to tour such in Romania. I know... you could pack me into that steamer trunk and ship me to Romania. You do owe me a barbecue in the mountains, you know. ;)

I do hope he returns. I ired with him, as was obvious, but he came back and was quite polite and courteous. I do believe I might have frightened him off.

same here. aspecially that i have heard of such stories recently. i don't know how much i could tell him. i haven't done much research about vampires in my country.



i know. and you will have the barbecue ;)




i think so too. i also hope he returnes.

Hello.
I am Portuguese. Small country next to Spain. The entrance of Europe by the south.
Portugal have been invaded by romans, mourish(the same as muçulmans, from morroco), Spanish, French and maybe for some more (I am not very good at history).
We are a small country now, but there were times when we were big. My ancestors found Brazil , Angola, Monzambique, Cabo Verde, Guiné, Timor Leste, Goa (in India), Macau (in China).
So you see this country has many cultures, because of diversity of people who passed true here.
We have here roman temples, Muçulman temples, and Christian Temples (Chatolic).We also have African Culture, that in terms of sorcery is very diverse, as also many Brazilians who perform a type of witchcraft called Macumba (witch by the way people say is very reliably, I myself never tried), and also gipsy people (who came from Romania).
In my case I don’t know what race is this person. (By her face she seem Caucasian female, Brow hair, white skin). (Not African and maybe not mourish).

And I am starting to believe, like someone said here, that she cannot be killed.
Must be ban (then).
I would in all my strength help her to find peace, but I will not take revenge for her, hurt anyone for her or kill for her.

As i said earlier i am the type scientific (I am a C.E.), I don’t have much time to be here reading and talking in the forum (pity because I could learn something, that science books doesn´t teach).

As Innanna said it could be a incubus or succubus, I don’t know nothing about them, but I will investigate them further.
But correct me If I am wrong aren´t this sexual demons? And aren´t they suppose to control one man soul trough sex?
Cos in my case, I don’t rebember having sex with her, I partial remember a kiss, but couldn´t tell for sure, probably I was dreaming.

I have to find some sort of ritual to solve my problem. I think the Catholic church have the ritual, in old exorcism books. But most part of this books were lost over the time.

Best Regards.

i think all of us know that part of history but thank you for remainding us



you can not get rid of her. you are week. did you ever practice magic?
she won't leave on her own will. she can not be killed by you. and she can not be banned by anyone. she will stay with you untill you die or untill she kills you. if you want to get rid of her she needs to be killed. but only a very strong creature can kill her.

I guess you are right Death Bride i am weak, I am also scared, and I fear to lose my sanity. This are the correct factors for a human being to became dangerous for those next to him, witch is probably what she wants.
This is like a disease, I cannot touch her, and no I never practiced witchcraft.
Look I don’t actually hate this woman, according with the texts that I read about her, she was buried alive. She faced popular judgement and suffered heavy punishment. The boards of her coffin had her nails attached. (mean that she suffered a lot before dying).
I am in fact thinking in how to help her find peace.
But I think taking revenge on innocent people is not the way for her to find peace.
And how to explain the other skulls? Was that her doing?
Or do you think that they were her followers, born vampires not turned vampires?
Writing the other post, I became to realize: what if she belong to the gipsy people?
No one in fact knows where Portuguese or Spanish gipsy came from. In one of my travels to Spain, and here in Portugal I try to find out. I went to a “Feira” or traditional market and asked what was their origin Country, the Portuguese gipsy say that they don’t know, the Spanish say Romania, The Spanish still have the original language and use it among them only.
And the clothes that she was wearing remind a lot the clothes of Spanish gipsy woman, (not Portuguese gipsy because they always dress in black)
The original dress of a Spanish gipsy looks like a bride dress, all white with those hand made arrangements.
Then what, Who was she? Maybe she was passing by, using the sailing routes, that at the time only Portuguese knew. (She was killed in 1473).
(She was killed 500 years before my birth, witch is a lot of coincidence.)
Maybe she was travelling to or from Romania, and found her end in a foreign land. That is why she cursed the village folks to dye at a hand of a foreign man?
I don’t know ,in this part I am only guessing.
What about me? I mean if I turn vampire, and do her bidding, what then?
Weird things are happening to me.
And yes I am scared.
If she controls vampires at her will, then I may just be her next puppie.
At the beginning I though that this was great for me, the gifts she offers are very tenting, but as I said before does not pay back at a long time.
I could be narrow sighted in this opinion, but in the end this may be because I am already loosing this battle.
I know that this is probably against many of the believes of the people in this forum, and I am not trying to convert no one, but my best chance is getting God help.
As I said before I need a ritual, not performed by me, but by a holy man.
Best Regards.

I am not talking about witchcraft here. That will do no good. It will not harm her. There are many forms of magic.
God can not help you for he means nothing to this woman and it will not harm her. That is what you need to understand.
No holy man as you call them can help you. You must look for a strong creature to kill this soul if you want to live your life in peace.

You claim to be educated enough to have a job dealing with chemistry?

I'm not really of the opinion that this is the case unless you've been drinking your own experiments.

You claimed arrogantly earlier that you 'knew' facts about forum members...That there were no vampires here...And then you say that if Rikkar thinks he is then he is.

This is not the thought process of a scientist...

As for finding bones of classical vampires....Finding a basis for something you want to be true is not scientific....You must first challenge your suppositions before finding supporting evidence...and that evidence has to be based in obvservable fact.

Finding humanoid bodies with fangs would have been a global news event....

I have to agree with Vore on this!

Hello.
You just dont enter in the scientific community and say i found vampires.
Everyone would start laughing in my face. (lol)
The skulls that I have found were incinerated as all the skeletons found. Not by me, but by decision of the construction chief. And they don’t care for vampires, they just care in have the job done, nothing more.
Besides without test, how do I know that they were vampires skulls?
It could be monkey (baboon) skulls, they look like vampire skulls.
I was guessing they were vampire skulls, because weird stuff is happening to me.
But if you want real prove, that no one can give to you.

This could be all product of my imagination, as you said chemical my be affecting my mind (I doubt that.), but anyway you can only take my word for it, as I take your word when you are writing in this forum.

I am not trying to convince you or getting your support.
I don’t need that.
I just exchanging experiences with you people.
Best Regards

I would wonder why baboon skulls would have been there. In the name of scientific interest, can you not get them tested to see if they are animal?



Could you not have explained that you thought that perhaps these were baboon skulls and you would like to have them tested? Bone does not burn, even in a crematorium, there is bone that must be ground.
The heat from the fire may have damaged the DNA within the bone, but I'll bet you could find some usable DNA. Teeth are very difficult to destroy, they would be the best place to check for DNA.

I've a feeling this topic is intended as flamebait because so much of what has been stated regarding Christianity is incorrect. Additionally, one has to apply oneself to learn the tents of Christianity. However, I do realize that Christian denominations have varying beliefs, especially Protestantism vs. Catholicism. However,

Hello.
This forum begins with "Enter the Darkness", and then someone is wishing Merry Christmas, does anyone know what Christmas is ?

>Most everyone here is familiar with who Christ is and whyhe came, although he wasn't born in December.

Does anyone here know what is the difference between light and darkness?

>We all have a conscience unless we are sociopaths.

All of you seem to love vampires or vampyres, but i´ll bet that none of you realy like vampires, you people care only for their power.

>I could care less about power. Yes, I am obsessed with vampires and vampirism. I want to know as much as possible about my origins.

Some of you drink blood, a word of advice everytime you do so, you open a door to demonic possession, in others words those who drink blood became a slave of someone else. This demon of blood seduces with a sense of power, but it´s not your power it´s his power.

>Life force is contained in the blood. It give us energy, not power. Demons do not reside in blood, alcohol, etc.

Some of you think that vampires are fake, well unfortunely they are not fakes. Real vampires do exist, but they are not humans anymore.

>Of course, we are humans. You've been reading folklore.

To became a vampire means that you embrace the darkness forever, and that is not a good thing. (Test yourself if that what you want, for example live without sunlight for a week, i mean not see the sun for 7 days.)
This is just a stupid test, becouse light is not sun light, and darkness is not the night. You must see the light or darkness to understand it.
(The light i am refering is the same that you see when your dead if you are a good person).
So those who enter darkness will never celebrate Christmas, the good news are that Jesus is the path to the light.
I mean good news becouse entering darkness is easy, but coming out is not so easy, in fact is very difficult, it can only be done with the help of God.
You must be wonder why am i writing all of this, well long time ago i was a evil man, my favorite expression "bad to the bones", i was a wicked criminal and using drugs , one day i was sleeping ,(home alone), around 2 PM(day time) and i was having bad dreams, suddently i waked and saw a woman
standing over me, floating above me, her dress was like a bride , but like if it was in the dirt, she had brown curly hair, i didn´t had time to see the color of her eyes but i saw her mouth very well, in fact she had blood on her mouth, my blood. Her teeth were like cat teeth.
I tryed to catch her (grab her) but she turned into a spider and disapeared into the carpet. In my bleeding neck were two holes.
Well at this time i tryed to protect myself with movie stuff about vampires, garlic, cross,holy water, etc, but nothing worked, becouse i was getting weaker, and my neck wounds never healing.
Until one night ,i was working in a theatre (not cinema), (alone), and i started to hear noises
from the roof, i went to investigate but found nothing, coming back down , again the noises , i looked up and saw a black cat tipping the roof glass and looking at me, when i reached the roof top it was gone, but the sounds were the same i used to hear in my own house, so i figured out that she was using a cat form and that in presence of other cats she could not be. So i got myself two kittens, and she was gone.
However this doesn´t end here, at this time i was so weak that i could only find strengh in blood. I was not eating , but started to drink animal blood, becouse the hunger just wouldn´t stop. As i refered earlier i was using drugs, but i stoped using them in favor of blood, blood becomed my favorite drug, and it was intoxicating. It made me powerfull, my strengh increased very much (at the point of throwing mans into the air, or grab them with just one hand, until they feel helpless), my youth coming back (i was getting youger, about 10 years),i was moving quickly (sometimes i used to surprise my friends, without they see me,
but knowing that i was there), my vision and smell were also improved.
Well all of this was great i felt like if i was invencible, but then i realized the price.
The price is what i earlier spoke about, the price of being in darkness alone. (Way from the light).
Yes i suddently started to realize that this powers come with a heavy price, becouse hell does exist and my eternity would be there.
I started having dreams, dreams that seem real, of nasty place, where my future was written.
And then latter on, when i was thinking on human blood and preparing myself to get it, i realized that this blood powers were a lie, the price was to heavy.

To be real strong, young, powerfull does not pay an eternity of pain. And believe me it ain´t small.
Some of you think that you can take it, but i bet different. (and i will win, for sure).
So i turned to God and asked for his help. Amazing Jesus did ear me and brought me to the light again, the pain is gone, the alone feeling is gone,
the agony is gone, and the best of all is that if i want something all i have got to do is ask God. (He may not give them to me, but he always hears.)
Finaly i can now celebrate Christmas again, with all my heart.
So in this forum you people say enter the darkness , i say (deja vu) enter the light.

>Most people have not chosen to become vampires. A few have.

>I believe I saw somewhere you said something about being a good person? If not, forgive me. At any rate, according to the bible, no one is good (from the mouth of Christ). If one could be good, then Christ would have not come. There would be no need for the second Adam. Genesis also states that humanity is totally depraved. So, Christianity is not a works-based religion. The job of the Christian is to believe in the atonement - period. Everyone grows at a different rate.

>I used to be an AWANA leader and have taught bible study. I no longer believe. I do hate to see someone living under the burden you are living under though. You will never please God by trying to be a good person. Just believe in Christ and why he came.

Best Regards and Merry Christmas to you all.
Pardon my bad english (i am foreign).

And Merry Christmas.

Hello.
Look i am not interested in proving the existing of vampires, not at the scientific level.
To me the skulls that I have found were vampiric skulls.
I worked in the digging as a normal worker, summer job for money, I was not responsible for what they were doing, or in anyway for the decisions that they make about the remains of the persons buried there.
This is a susceptible matter, because nobody likes to see their ancestors corpses be trashed. And that is exactly what happened there.
The company ordered that this was taken care, with speed and discretion.
And the remains disposed into incineration in a cement plant.

But now I have a question for you forum people, why is so, that in so many claimed vampires, in here, no one ever went to science, in order to prove your existence?

Wait, I know.
Is because in secret of the night, in the shadow, we walk, unknown to you humans, but living next to you, waiting for the right moment, to taste your precious fluid of life.
The blood, who does not taste metallic or sweet for itself, but as a different flavour every time we taste it.
We who walked among you, before the stars were made, live now as shadows.
Dark have been our path, and dark it will remain.

For you Kelly, I do not try be a good person or bad person.
I follow life and with it one never knows what our path is.
I am not a bad seed, at least not when I am sleeping.
What I mean is, that I believe that I don’t have to be good, or have to be bad to please God. I think he does not gives a sh.. about that.
God have demons in heaven, did you never saw gargoyles in the church?
I believe that vampires can go to heaven, and still remain vampires.
The question is are you with or against God.
This is the only question in this life. And the reason why we live it.

I believe that we pass trough this land to prove if we are loyal or not.
Our opponent , or shall I say our accuser is the devil , the fallen Kerubyn, is the prime angel of god, he is the best worker that God haves.
Try to be evil, and accept God, you will see, it not the same thing of being evil if you denied God.
The devil is not against God, in fact with his work he is God protector, because he protect God of creatures like us, humans trying to achieve paradise, only granted in the past to angels, in our days the door man of heaven, is less selective, he is letting all the trash in. So some angels rebel against God, and they were determined to prove to God, that trash, is what human race is.
They made a mistake, because they spoke bad of God best creation (man kind).

The birth of Jesus, is the end of this question, How can the son of god be trash ?
He is not.
He is the reason why the door man in heaven is less selective.
Do you know that man kind could not enter heaven before him.

So many of you “dislike” God, like if he was one priest or one minister of church.
But remember this many wolfs dressed themselves as sheep, to achieve their purposes.
To know God is impossible to man kind.
To imagine what he his, is a waist of time.
One can never understand him.

I mean I understand you folks, when you people dislike him is for:
Why God does not give me a Porshe, my Mercedes is getting old and out of fashion?

When the most important question is : why have I such thirst?
Can blood take it away?

Best Regards.
Merry Christmas.
(Sorry if I am getting ).

---erm, prove yours to me. I have a few questions for you...

1) Were I immortal, why the blue blazes would I care to prove myself to you or to anyone else?

2) were I immortal, why would I be stupid enough to prove my existence to those who might wish me harm? Any person who says they are immortal is not. Any being who has existed for centuries or more has not done so by hanging a sign over their head saying "I am a vampire please stake me".

An observation: I am hypothesizing that the phenomena you describe is not an isolated, one time event. Pray tell, young man, why does not the fossil record document these phenomena?


---One more question young man...

3) are you purposefully trying to be offensive?

An observation: you seem to have a romanticized view of vampires.

Oh, by the way, I am skimming your posts rather than digging through the religious drivel. My mind starts to melt when I try to wade through it. Also, I do not challenge you in your beliefs, rather I have sought to provide you support in researching your legend.

This, however, did jump out at me...

---Where, young man, did you ever come up with that idea from any reputable member who posts on this board? Before you make such a statement, make ready quotes, name, and dates.

Oh I suppose I had best post this before I edit to the point where Sire hits me with the Ban Stick™.

Kerubyn,

I believe in God. That belief comes from blind faith. I have had many experiences where I could say "Oh, that was God working in my life." However, I don't believe that, necessarily

I see that you still believe that vampirism is a great sin in the eyes of God? What if it were? So what? Have you ever lusted after another human being? Have you ever lied? Do you sin on a daily basis? Human beings are not perfect.

May I ask you a question? You talk about loyalty to God? What is loyalty to God?

Kerubyn said:

I mean I understand you folks, when you people dislike him is for:
Why God does not give me a Porshe, my Mercedes is getting old and out of fashion?

When the most important question is : why have I such thirst?
Can blood take it away?

Excuse me, Mr. Kerubyn. Although I am not Christian, let me reiterate that I do believe in God. Furthermore, many vampires are Christians. You are assuming that everyone on this board is an atheist or against God by default. That is not true. Religion is a daunting institution of man at times. I see you have been brainwashed, manipulated and are under mind control because you have a separatist view that is incorrect.

As a Christian, you would say that all good things comes from God. This may be true. But remember He rains good things upon the outcasts as well. In fact, I have a lovely red BMW, a 3000 square foot house, and 6 acres of land. You are assuming that everyone here is destitute. And what if many are? Well, bless them, they are human beings. They are not destitute because God has struck them with his mighty hammer.

The thirst? I once had a very strong spiritual thirst. I sought God. I remain a spiritual person. And, no, I do not personally worship the earth or anything in it. Some do. May they be blessed.

And you are confusing vampirism with spirituality when you speak of the thirst. Sure, there are some vampire churches: at least three different organizations I know of have developed vampirism into a religion. I am sure that their religion fills their spiritual needs perfectly. But they are the exception, not the rule.

You spoke of demons in heaven. Where do you get that? According to the bible, the fallen angels roam the heavens and the earth, the heavens being the "air" and "space" above the earth, not literally God's abode. Supposedly, Satan, the Accuser, is the only fallen angel who gets in God's face. And gargoyles? What do gargoyles have to do with fallen angels/demons? Gargoyles are a creation of man, not God. I have seen concrete, marble, and bronze statues of dogs. Haven't you? I have seen statues of Francis of Assissi (spelling?) with animal friends. Haven't you? Those "things" are creations of man.

I assume you are equating demons with fallen angels. I have seen a few spirits myself. And guess what? They weren't all "demons." Coming from a Christian background, one would think all spooks were demons. I don't believe this to be so. And I don't believe that spooks were deceptively appearing as angels of light. Not that some spirits don't lie - they do. Then, we could get into astral thoughtforms and such but I don't think we want to go there. You need to stay "innocent as a dove and sly as a fox."

By the way, acid comments (such as the ones about vampires having a money-grubbing character and so on) have never converted anyone. But then again, it is the Holy Spirit's job to convert and convince, not man. Man is only responsible for delivering the message of the gospel.

And please answer the questions about loyalty.
Thank you.

Might I make one more observation?

Now, were I an immortal vampire, I would most certainly produce myself to the scientific community. I would adore to be strapped to a table and vivisected.

I am still waiting for you to tell me exactly why vampires are these godless creatures. Of course, you might have addressed this, however, my mind melted from your rhetoric by that point. If you have addressed this, please restate clearly and concicely. You seem to have the need to make your case, so gather your facts and tell us.

I must second Lady Kelly's observation about your materialism comment. I defy you to find one such comment from anyone on this board. Perchance, doth you protest too much? Why, perchance, would that be?

I do thankyou for something. I have been in deathly bad mood and have been in seclusion for some time now. Because of you I am prying myself back into a semblance of life.

A side note... my thanks to those who have stood by me during this time of my travail. Nods and smiles lovingly at the Ladies.

Let's assume you could get someone to believe you, like a scientist, scientists have an unquenchable thrist for knowledge and facts. This scientist, if s/he believed you, would promptly lock you up in a lab and perform all kinds of tests on you. You would become a lab rat. Doesnt sound like fun to me. I would not want to have lived so long only to become a specimen.


Ok, the Devil supposedly fell from grace because of jealousy He did not like that God made humans and loved them so much. A case of sibling rivalry if you will. He felt that God loved humans more than He loved the angels thus began the uprising. There was a war in Heaven and the Devil and his minions lost. They were cast to Hell. The Devil craves God's love but cannot attain it as long as he does not repent and accept God's decisions. The Devil is still angry and jealous of the human race that is why he hates us so much. He feels God loves us and not him.



Did not Elijha acsend to Heaven? What about Moses? They were there before Christ came. You mean to tell me that in all the years humans have existed before Christ came, not one of them was allowed Heaven? I'll bet there were some pissed off people awaiting entry to Heaven. What about the polytheists? Did not God create them too? Was it their fault they did not know about the One God? So even though God made them, He would not allow them to dwell with Him? I am a polytheist, I believe in God and Goddess as well as other minor Deities. Besides, if Judgement Day determines who enters Heaven and who is condemned to Hell, and since said day has not yet come, then Heaven and Hell must be empty. Where are all the souls that have passed then? I have my own beliefs on such matters and they do not coincide with what the church teaches. Not that I care, the church is a bunch of bullshit anyway. "Organized religion" gives me hives

Oh, another thing, you said the skulls you found could possibly have been baboon skulls.....look at a baboon, I very much doubt you can mistake a baboon skull for a human one.