PegUnicorn
Mar 28 2003, 06:00 PM
OMG I think I almost freaked when my friend is meeting this guy online who claims to be a vampire... Know I was like ok I was not going to judge untill she said that he was going to turn her. Then she tried to explain to me that she will die and be reborn as a vampire.
I was like ummm.... I was like what an idiot. I am sorry but my friend is crazy. She expects all these guys to be safe when she meets him. She barely knew the gut online before she gave him her number. Then I asked for a photo that she has of him and she did not show it to me yet.
Anyway I am having a hard time believing her let allone a vampire that even believes that you bite a victume they die and return as a vampire. I was confussed by her whole comment... What do you wait untill die or he killed you?
Know I fear for her life... She is going to get killed one say and I warned her over and over again.
Know this guy wants to talk to me since she had the nerve to tell him I did not believe in him. Well I don't know if I do or even if I believe in her anyway. She always wants to fitt in with me because of what I am. She knows what I am even if I never actually told her. Long story on how she knows... Know she is scarying me a bit.
I just wondering all you guys thoughts here. I told her its not a good idea but I don't think she is listening. <_<
Meatros
Mar 28 2003, 07:29 PM
Alright, first I want to emphasize that I'm paranoid and what I say may or may not fit with your particular situation-in fact I hope it doesn't.
IMO meeting people on line is a risky proposition-especially if you are young and or have no ability to handle what situation gone bad. You sound like you have a level head while your friend does not. She already gave him her number, which is the same as giving this stranger her home address.
*If I may digress a moment; some people may have seen a recent chain email going around about being able to 'google' for a home address. This email is factual (as oppose to the scores that show up in your inbox that aren't), if your number is listed in the phone book. Check
Snopes for the full 411.
Is everyone online a psychopath or dangerous? No of course not, but I think it is wise to at least foster a long-term 'online' relationship before disclosing phone numbers, addresses, etc, because it pays to be safe and to take the proper precautions.
My diatribe being said, I advise you to seek some sort of adult help. Get either your parents involved or a school counsler. From the way it looks, he could be inadvertantly threatening your friends life. He might *believe* he can rise her after she dies, or he may be operating under the assumption that he can bleed her quite significantly and then try to bring your friend 'back' to life. In either case your friend is gambling with her life and on this occasion I think it pays to look at it from a skeptical mindset.
happynoodleboy
Mar 28 2003, 09:50 PM
well..... if ur paranoid like meatros slap her and tell her not to go threw with it and get her number changed
but if ur a daredevil.....go with with her... pack a knife or a gun which ever one u like better.... and have fun.... and u can still slap her
Weeping_Death
Mar 28 2003, 10:19 PM
I've dealt with a situation like this before...
If its real..hear what, DO this :
1. Let her think you are laying off...
2. Get a guy friend of yours, A big guy friend.
3. Obtain a "relievement of situation" instrument eg. a gun, or a lead pipe.
4. TAIL YOUR FRIEND...
5. DO NOT ALLOW THE PERSON TO TOUCH HER, APPROACH THEM WHEN SHE SEES THE PERSON and they are like 200 or 100 m form her.
6. After making sure by observation that they have no weapons, KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE PERSON...DO NOT ALLOW ANY SUDDEN MOVES.
7. HAVE the guy friend, "obtain" answers from the person via means fit for them.
8. If they have a weapon CALL THE POLICE...SHOOT THEM IN THE FOOT..and GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE WITH YOUR FRIENDS
*and you can claim it was self defence, later.*
OR....
On the day of the meeting for your friend, you can accidentally knock her out. ;) Hey it worked with my "friend"...
Meatros
Mar 28 2003, 10:59 PM
No offense to either of you Weeping_Death and happynoodleboy, but I think showing up with a weapon is an extremely bad idea that invites trouble.
DeadlyNightMisstress
Mar 28 2003, 11:41 PM
QUOTE (Meatros @ Mar 29 2003, 03:59 AM)
No offense to either of you Weeping_Death and happynoodleboy, but I think showing up with a weapon is an extremely bad idea that invites trouble.
Must agree....lol....Meatros...I think our brains are connected in some weird way because I always agree with what you say or I am thinking it and you just get it posted before I do...lol.
::huggles him::
But don't take weapons....I have done that...And it has only came to the worst thing....So just be there for your friend...And if something does go wrong...Take off like a bat outta Hell.
Khrymzynn
Mar 29 2003, 12:19 AM
Hmm, like Meatros, I'm a little paranoid about this kind of thing. Obviously, I don't support the idea of meeting people from online and exposing yourself to these people unless you're in a good, safe, public environment.
Just read my freakin' sig file.
| But anyway, bringing a weapon is a bad idea, if nothing else because
| it sets the degree of violence really high, it allows for the possibility of
| lethal confrontation, a possibility that wasn't there to start with.
| If you don't start none, won't be none. Words to live by.
| Apart from the issue of weapons all I can say in the way of advice is
| that if your friend doesn't want your advice, didn't ask for your advice,
| and isn't taking your advice, then it's out of your control. If, on the
| other hand, she got you involved, and you were asked your opinion,
| then tell her what you feel, as strongly as you need to, until she
| understands exactly how much this means to you, and how much you
| think she is risking by going through with this. Most people won't do
| something they think is safe if someone they care about is worried.
V
PegUnicorn
Mar 29 2003, 11:02 AM
I am not that freaked out. She could be lying to me to get my attention however I did go on web cam with her talking to two guys who one seem to be horny for some reason. Anyway I totelly was disgusted by that one guy and i kind of nodded off. Anyway if she is going to meet this guy I would go with her to a public area which she always does. She has brains to a certian extent lol... But if this guy is real and thinks turning her into a vampire is true then I would slap some sense into him. I think I feel sorry for him then her... In some cases if he turns out to be real.
Weeping_Death
Mar 29 2003, 12:59 PM
Hey I never said you go inthe car with them, or to have the "reliever of situations" instrument in plain view,
I said tail them...and if anything seems wierd...dont hesitate to act.
No offence taken...
Setsetuya
Mar 29 2003, 04:48 PM
I'm going to be a bitch and say what I perosnally think. I'm not in any way insulting the quality of your friend's mind, but I would sooner laugh my head off then be scared if I met a guy online who said he was a vampire and that he would turn me.
My guess goes forward to the most rational and popular assumption; This guy's just an idiot poser who has nothing better to do then go on the net and be something he isn't, probably because he hates himself, has never had sex and listens to Korn all day. That being said, let me a little bit more serious. Ot concerned, anyways.
It's really stupid of your friend to have given her this guys's number. There may be a lot of lonely weirdos on the net, but bad things have also happened.
How old is your friend, and how old is this guy? To get the full of the situation, these are things you should know. People lie on the internet all the time, or at least they are when they say they're vampires. So I don't think there's aything to worry about, but it's also not something to discard. Like Meatros said, adult intervention may be of best bet. But the thing to learn is precaution, and maybe your friend should know about it. I don't think it's so bad to give out your number to someone you've never met. I've actually done it myself, but you always have to be carefull. The consequences of whatever may happen are yours to follow, as long as it's expected. Your friend doesn't really seem to know that, which is why it's stupid that she gave away her number. Maybe you should impose on your friend the warning not to go all out.
Meatros
Mar 29 2003, 05:03 PM
QUOTE
I'm going to be a bitch and say what I perosnally think. I'm not in any way insulting the quality of your friend's mind, but I would sooner laugh my head off then be scared if I met a guy online who said he was a vampire and that he would turn me.
I agree that the guy probably isn't scary, perhaps he's deluded, in either case he
still could be dangerous.
How old is this guy? He might want to desperately *prove* something, in which case showing up to be an instrument of what he would consider proof would prove to be a very bad thing.
QUOTE
My guess goes forward to the most rational and popular assumption; This guy's just an idiot poser who has nothing better to do then go on the net and be something he isn't, probably because he hates himself, has never had sex and listens to Korn all day. That being said, let me a little bit more serious. Ot concerned, anyways.
This almost definitly the case, but one never knows where truly disturbed people lurk.
QUOTE
I don't think it's so bad to give out your number to someone you've never met. I've actually done it myself, but you always have to be carefull. The consequences of whatever may happen are yours to follow, as long as it's expected. Your friend doesn't really seem to know that, which is why it's stupid that she gave away her number. Maybe you should impose on your friend the warning not to go all out.
I don't think it's
always a risky proposition to give out your number, but I do think proper judgment should be applied. In the OPs case, the friend just met this guy and this guy is claiming some pretty outlandish things. IIRC the OP is young (14 or so, I think) and her friend is young also, I think it's really important to find out how old and what his intentions are. As I stated above, a phone number is all you need to find out someone's home address-and when that happens you've found yourself a potential full time stalker.
Also, as I said before I don't think 'packing' is the way to go about it. As Khrymzynn said, it puts a bar on the expectations. The best bet would be to find out more about the guy, and perhaps have your friend meet him a few times with adults there, if she's going to meet him at all (which I personally would not suggest).
happynoodleboy
Mar 29 2003, 05:45 PM
QUOTE (Setsetuya @ Mar 29 2003, 09:48 PM)
and listens to Korn all day.
what's wrong with Korn
Shadowvamp
Mar 31 2003, 12:50 PM
[QUOTE]Come out, Come out wherever you are
To be honest,if she doesn't listen,Let fate decide. Try hard now,but never give up.
Setsetuya
Mar 31 2003, 01:12 PM
Yeah I agree Meatros, there COULD be harm, and this COULD be dangerous. I'm not saying that that should be overlooked, in fact, it should be strongly considered, but the chances of that are pretty slim.
And no, "packing" is not any kind of solution. That's just stupid.
Upir Lichy
Mar 31 2003, 01:26 PM
Any dude who says he's a Vampire and is gonna turn your pal into one by biting her neck is either a nutcase....or he's up for some serious hopping on the good foot and doing the bad thing. He aint gonna give a shit once he's fucked her. I doubt he's about to kill her, but you just never know.
My advice, get her to see your point of view and to ditch the wannabe. Explain to her there is no such thing as sucking blood in some magical embracem dying and rebirth into a Vampire- not gonna happen. If she insists on going, tell her parents whats she's up to. If he's an honest guy he won't mind having a few words with her parents just to let them know its all okay. Don't let her go on her own- go with her...and just to be safe bring another guy.
And I dunno what this whole taking guns and shit with you is.....I don't even know how you kids get hold of guns, but this a cultural thing but anyhows, shooting someone in the face ain't gonna solve anything- and if you believe in the whole turning vampire then some lead in his brain ain't gonna do shit.
Take care.
PegUnicorn
Mar 31 2003, 03:56 PM
QUOTE (Upir Lichy @ Mar 31 2003, 06:26 PM)
Any dude who says he's a Vampire and is gonna turn your pal into one by biting her neck is either a nutcase....or he's up for some serious hopping on the good foot and doing the bad thing. He aint gonna give a shit once he's fucked her. I doubt he's about to kill her, but you just never know.
My advice, get her to see your point of view and to ditch the wannabe. Explain to her there is no such thing as sucking blood in some magical embracem dying and rebirth into a Vampire- not gonna happen. If she insists on going, tell her parents whats she's up to. If he's an honest guy he won't mind having a few words with her parents just to let them know its all okay. Don't let her go on her own- go with her...and just to be safe bring another guy.
And I dunno what this whole taking guns and shit with you is.....I don't even know how you kids get hold of guns, but this a cultural thing but anyhows, shooting someone in the face ain't gonna solve anything- and if you believe in the whole turning vampire then some lead in his brain ain't gonna do shit.
Take care.
Thanks Upir... She keeps telling me about it and I give her the same damn advice everyday. I should tell her mom and it will piss her off but if she is going to take this guy to the prom which i just found out I have to tell her parents.
Damn these guys get on my nerves know telling girls they can turn them. I almost wanted to smack her. She already knows my views on this and she had the nerve to tell me. Anyway thanks Upir I might tell her parents.
I don't know about the guns either... To extreme for me and my friend. <_<
Weeping_Death
Mar 31 2003, 06:58 PM
...Hmm... <_<
You could possibly make her feel guilty about "turning" into a vampyre...Hit some soft spots...make her cry about things she might lose if she "turns" into a vampyre...Use some myth...like tell her she'll die and be reanimated...and she wont see the sun again, or she'll be thown into Hell...Tell her something like that...
But dont make her feel bad about her life...Let her talk it out rationally and you just listen...dont disapprove...maybe she just wants attention so give her some, just to let her talk. She is going through a phase...most probably...so just listen to all she has to say if that doesnt work then do the thing above.... :huh: :)
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