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Kath
I just finished a web page with a pretty detailed introductory tutorial on 'shielding'. :D

Hope you like it
http://www.geocities.com/kathrynck/shielding101.html

~ Kath B)
Archangel
Thank you, Kath. It's been very helpful for me.
I like your straightforward and no-nonsense approach. Espcially since I'm still new to this whole concept of energy feeding and channeling.
Just finished 101 and performed (with some success) the exercises listed.

Thanks again, and I'm looking forward to 201...
dieingblacklight
I like it! Its going in my recomodations. And my big ole library of stuff. :D. Cant wait to hear more.
Final Ultima
Well, I have to say, that's one pretty damn useful site.
Sanctu Nosferatu
THE HUMAN LIFEFORCE.


Seems you've been at this for quite some time. 10 years? You have A LOT of info at that site. I can see why it would be helpful for the Pscionosists. And the Psi Vamps. I doubt we'll see another as adept in this field at this site, ever. Good work Kath. Sanctu Nosferatu.
Liod
Good stuff, Kath.

And, from the brief preview of the 301, it seems I've elegantly skipped the first two levels and thrown myself right on the third...heh.
Final Ultima
I sure hope that the 201 and 301 sections get finished soon enough, they'll be a really good read.
Liod
201 is done...
Ummei
that's an awesome site ^^
Kath
awwww thankies :) :) :) :) :)

dont get too anxious waiting for 201 and 301, its taking FOREVER to get it all. Especially since the 201 and 301 sites are almost all out of my head :P the 101 at least there was a lot of other sources to draw from :)

oh, 201 isn't done really, i've only got the intro for 201 done, i'm still working on the body of it...

wowie, nobody said anything bad blink.gif
B)

10 years? umm... not quite, lets just say that when i finally got into these topics, I really researched and stuff with a passion

SAY...
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Anybody got any shielding methods and ideas?? for the more advanced stuff i mean? you know, like mirror shields and such. There's so many ways to do things, i'm gonna miss some. Help! :D hehe

~ Kath
Liod
I'm working on mirror shields right now, but I do things my own way, I can't guarantee it'll work for everyone... I just 'drag' out a mirror image from a regular mirror, and visualise it around me, tightening it, etc. Throwing in the effect of the shield and setting up some traps etc. It's just taking a few tries, with kids around.

You should put up elemental shields too, those are my favourite, and traps, alarms, triggers, radars, weapons, all that fancy stuff... :D
Khrymzynn
I personally use a seven-layer multi-element shield... Each one serves a different purpose.
#7: disguises the effects of inner shields, and deflects perceptions. This is my "obfuscate" level
#6: alerts to incoming attacks and stores enough power to activate next five levels
#5: siphons energy off on incoming attacks, directs it to inner four levels.
#4: reflects attacks away. This doesn't work real well against particularly well-planned attacks, but it throws witch-whammies off nicely.
#3: barrier. anything that gets this far is pretty strong, so this one is just to slow them down and damp them down somewhat
#2: siphons energy off incoming attacks, routes power back to itself in case of followup attacks.
#1: displaces the attack back out to level 5. Variation on the mirror principle.

It was a headache to set them up, but now it takes little to no concentration on my part to maintain and upkeep the shields. And I can count the number of attacks that have broken past them on the fingers of one hand. But then, I take shielding very seriously.
Liod
That was thourough... I'm not focused enough normally to get something like that going, I just wham them up as I go, throw up a new shield outside the others when I get an idea to one. I started with one for each element (water was tricky, I'm scared of water... ;) ) and outside them I'm putting other shield ideas I get. But there's not really any system, or order to it. I prefer it that way, it'll be a complete surprise what comes next.
Khrymzynn
Well, there's a lot to be said for that approach, unpredictability is a valuable commodity.
For me, I like to have a system. Personal preference.
Liod
Everyone's different there. And I admire the way you concocted that shield, sure you haven't been a strategist in a former life..?
Khrymzynn
I could try for a long time to explain why that question is funny to me...
Uhm, no, not a strategist in a former life, more like a strategist in this life. I have a lot of background in the practice, and I take my shields seriously. I'm not real strong, but enough cleverness and training can make up for any lack of power. So, since I can't just wrap stone and light around myself strong enough to hold off the kind of crap that gets thrown at me, I have to use a complicated interwoven system. I envy those that can get by on single-layer or double-layer shields. They're either stronger than I, or better at staying out of trouble.
Liod
Or luckier...in my case, I'm not very good at staying out of trouble, but I'm well protected by other...things. Shields would just be the final touch, first they have to get through one extremely grouchy thingie (I'm still trying to determine what the heck he is...) my boyfriend, his pack of spiritbeings, our housegnome, my other guardian, my mentors link, and whatever else might be lurking in the shadows... Then they reach the shields...
Myth
thats a nice defens cler but you nead to praktis the shildes....

but in reality you nead only one...shield.... only has to be abel to adapt and reakt as a living being
Final Ultima
I've never really needed to create a shield myself, mostly because Cleethorpes isn't exactly riddled with psionically gifted people, or even psionically aware people, for that matter, and I don't find a lot of people out of the area intentionally trying to focus on draining the energy from my area or performing a psychic attack on me.
Infinitys_son
I don't shield, I counter-attack.
Where I live there are psi's called HUNA, originally called Ho'omana (to make "Mana", or life force energy). The word H'oo means to make.
Taken together, the word Ho'omana means to empower or empowerment.
The people, called Kahuna, who practiced these techniques and teachings know that all power and all force emanated from the One, the source of All -- all life, all energy, which in Hawai'i was called I'o.
They are powerfull.
They infest here and have combined thier beliefs with christianity-
and try to steal energy from anything they can Justifying the attacks as some kind of a "crusade".
I have achieved some status here- those that know of me will retreat,
it's funny to see a group of them looking at me from far away, looking at me like I'm some demon.
Some will try, and I become more powerfull each time- though there are some I must keep away from also.
It is a constant battle here, and shields won't work.
So be aware of this if any of you come to Hawaii, I hear Africa has its version of these psi's also.
Be Carefull.
Kath
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You should put up elemental shields too, those are my favourite, and traps, alarms, triggers, radars, weapons, all that fancy stuff...
Thats exactly what i was looking for :) I have most of those already written about some, but just seeing the different words you use for them gives me a couple more ideas to write about

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I personally use a seven-layer multi-element shield... Each one serves a different purpose.
#7: disguises the effects of inner shields, and deflects perceptions. This is my "obfuscate" level
#6: alerts to incoming attacks and stores enough power to activate next five levels
#5: siphons energy off on incoming attacks, directs it to inner four levels.
#4: reflects attacks away. This doesn't work real well against particularly well-planned attacks, but it throws witch-whammies off nicely.
#3: barrier. anything that gets this far is pretty strong, so this one is just to slow them down and damp them down somewhat
#2: siphons energy off incoming attacks, routes power back to itself in case of followup attacks.
#1: displaces the attack back out to level 5. Variation on the mirror principle.

Gees, thats a pretty advanced shield! And an excellent example of making multilayers work together It'd be good 301 material :) and it has helpfull ideas to make sure i don't forget any of the types of layers for 201 stuff too.

Its really quite brilliant, but I have some concerns about it though... - How much focus does it take to keep the shield fully functional? - How much energy does it use? - Would seven times the focus/will/energy in just one layer be more or less effective? and why?
one other thing about it, is that its complex. and the tricky thing about complex plans is well... like in chess, if you plan too many moves ahead, you tend to run into problems when the opponent doesnt do what you thought they would.

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...in my case, I'm not very good at staying out of trouble, but I'm well protected by other...things. Shields would just be the final touch, first they have to get through one extremely grouchy thingie (I'm still trying to determine what the heck he is...) my boyfriend, his pack of spiritbeings, our housegnome, my other guardian, my mentors link, and whatever else might be lurking in the shadows... Then they reach the shields...
I havent really written anything about using other beings for deffense. Should I mention that in the shielding pages? or would it be sorta getting off topic? I don't really use them myself, I'm pretty good with shields and well, really I tend to think that breaking through my shields is like breaking into the tiger pit at the zoo :D

QUOTE
I don't shield, I counter-attack.

"The best deffense is a better offense" I totally agree B)
but shielding is a skill and delves into some pretty advanced energy manipulation, and i think it can be very usefull to have a good working knowledge of it.

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...So be aware of this if any of you come to Hawaii, I hear Africa has its version of these psi's also.
Be Carefull.

I never heard of those Huna guys, they sound like fun though. I wish there was more psychicly adept people here. I rather like to spar and there's never any excitement from sparing with other people it seems. The only times I ever felt really challenged was once with a really really powerfull astral psi vamp who sucked on me for a week solid before I got the upper hand and got rid of it.
And more recently there was an 'astral bastard' (demon, or whatever term you like) who sent me to the emergency room. I do worry a bit about tangling with anything that can affect physical things like that... I'm not sure how to deffend against it. Maybe if i Knew how to TK/PK then i would have a better understanding of how to protect against it. I dunno. I guess that will be in a shielding 401 page someday, after i learn enough to write a 401 page, i'm sorta at a 301 stage myself :P

~ Kath
Liod
QUOTE (Kath @ Apr 2 2003, 05:41 PM)
QUOTE
...in my case, I'm not very good at staying out of trouble, but I'm well protected by other...things. Shields would just be the final touch, first they have to get through one extremely grouchy thingie (I'm still trying to determine what the heck he is...) my boyfriend, his pack of spiritbeings, our housegnome, my other guardian, my mentors link, and whatever else might be lurking in the shadows... Then they reach the shields...

I havent really written anything about using other beings for deffense. Should I mention that in the shielding pages? or would it be sorta getting off topic? I don't really use them myself, I'm pretty good with shields and well, really I tend to think that breaking through my shields is like breaking into the tiger pit at the zoo :D


Glad to be of service. :)

As for my guardians, I'm not sure if you can 'use' them like that. They're with me because they chose to.. Ol Mr Grouchy...well, I think I'm his divine punishment. My bf's thingies, they're looking after me, because me injured would mean our kids injured = my bf hurt. As long as it's his best interest, they're guarding me. The housegnome and my other guardian are with me because I asked them too, and apparently they like me...

damn...got to run...
Kath
kewlies :D

Ya, I kinda worded that badly, i didn't mean use - use like 'using people', I meant it more like uhh... using the friendly relationships you have with other people/beings to help when you are attacked. Erm that still sounded wrong sorta... I mean like when you have a flat tire and you call your friend for help, you're using your friends to help you out in a jam, but you aren't USING your friends. ya know what i mean? :)

anyways, its one way of protecting yourself, so its kinda related to shielding. If i mention it in the shielding site I think I will limit it to constructs & thoughtforms (or egregores, tulpas, servitors, golems, etc. whatever your favorite term for created thingies)

Kath :D
Khrymzynn
Multi-layer interlocked shields are a pain to learn, and a pain to set up, but to maintain... no. Figuring out how to build them was tough, so was actually building them. But once they're set up I devote just a scrap of concentration all the time. And that is easy.
Tell you what, pick a muscle group, like the abdominals or your right bicep. Go through an entire day holding those muscles tensed. Every time you realize that you've relaxed them, tense them back up. Do that for a while, and after some time there is a "reserve" concentration that takes care of that while you do other things.Same principle as with shielding.
Also helps if you have a background in martial arts or combat, which teach you to guard at a moment's notice, and to always be prepared to guard.
To sum up, working the energies that intricately is a pain in the keister, but once you've gotten to that point, holding them up is simplicity itself.
Kath
thats a kewl insight :D
I hadn't thought about that.

Kath :)
Deathwish
Sweet tutorial, definitely going on my bookmark list hehe, I'll write my own input once I'm done reading it :) Don't suppose you'd mind if I put a link to it in my comparing notes thread? It's just the sort of thing I was looking for. :D
shadowzdarkness
I really like shielding 101 i will be looking forward to more info. You are very insightful thankyou.
Kath
thankies :)
Deathwish
Ok, I added a link to your shielding page in my Comparing Notes thread. Oh yeah, only about 20 more posts and I can get into my inbox again, YAY! :D
Amadeo
Hmm, I didn't know that that was what I was doing, I've been able to call up things before and move the wind, increasing it's force on things and making it swirl, but I've never made a psiball before, or a shield, or any of that stuff. I didn't know I could. I made a psiball, but what is the purpose, I just hold it for a while and then let it go, is this what I'm supposed to do, or am I supposed to force it to do something. Will you post more things, how about going into visions, particularily the future kind. I want to be able to change them.
Khrymzynn
Kath, I'm loving the new information you posted up, and I can't wait for 301. Move at your own pace, if you can do a damn fine job then I can be patient for the updates. But cheers, very fresh.
Kath
um, a psi ball... uh... in and of itself i think it's like a pushup, the exercise, not the ice cream things :P
its not nessisarily usefull, but its an exercise for your psi abillity and a possible building block for other things. like a shied for example :P

thankies Khrymzynn :)
i still gotta finish the 201 page though :P hehe
as for when? i dunno. i updated and changed the 101 page like a dozen times before it was as refined as i think it is now, so hopefully i'll get something up to finish the 201 page sometime soonish, and then fine tune it later. I haven't really started on the 301 page, i'm not sure how i'm gonna write it untill i finish the 201 so it can sorta build on that :)
I'd like to get a whole bunch of different pages up eventually, on all sorts of topics, but gah, i have a job an stuff :P

Kath
Amadeo
A pushup, gah, I hate pushups, that's it, psicubes instead, that way I can do pull ups (lol, well, I think it's funny at least)
Khrymzynn
BTW, for those of you that have to defend yourself from energy vampires, I would like to add this note...
Others here have discussed "elemental" shields. If you want to keep psychic feeders off of you, just set at least one of your shields to the "poison" element. That keeps them off your back better than anything. And it's fairly effective against other creatures and attacks.
Deathwish
What is an elemental shield and how does it differ from plain ol' energy?
Liod
It (or at least mine) uses external energy as well as your own, by drawing energy from the various elements (water, fire, earth, wind, can also be expanded to for instance ice and stone). The shield has basically the same strengths and weaknesses as the element it uses.
Deathwish
Ah ok, I draw mine from just about everything, is that good or bad?
Liod
No, that's good. However if you want to draw specifically for shielding, it's generally a good idea to be a bit specific about what kind of energy you use...kind of customizing it a bit, you know? ;)
Deathwish
Ah ok, so what sort of things block what better? I noticed someone mentioned a poison based shield to block someone draining energy, how is that accomplished, and how does it differ from simply cutting someone off from your energy with a regular ol' psi shield.
Amadeo
Elemental ones, uhg, now your losing me.
Liod
QUOTE (Deathwish @ Apr 22 2003, 11:01 AM)
Ah ok, so what sort of things block what better? I noticed someone mentioned a poison based shield to block someone draining energy, how is that accomplished, and how does it differ from simply cutting someone off from your energy with a regular ol' psi shield.

The idea behind a poison shield is fairly simple, the energyvamp will get sich if he tries to drain it. A psivamp can, technically, eat any kind of shield and thus get past it...but if the shield is poisonous to him, he'll be forced to find another way to get past it.

Now the sad state about most psivamps, the ones I've run into anyway, is that they find a way that works for them, and never leaves that path. But if, for some reason, this method proves to be useless, they're completely at a loss, and wouldn't know what to do. Imagine you've taken the same bus every day, never gotten around by any other means of transportation, even your legs. Then one day the bus won't show.

So a poison shield is usually very effective...but how to create it...I'd personally decide what kind of poison I want, what the effect would be, how long it normally should last, etc. I'd probably give it a shimmering green color, easy to visualise. Then I'd pull out energy, infect it, so to speak, still with the intentions for the shield clear in mind, untill the energy gets that color. Malice, defensiveness and other icky feelings are good. When the color is the right slimy green, I'd form it into a shield and lock it.
Amadeo
How do you make a poison one, does it matter what type of energy you draw from? And you said decide what type of poison, do you just visualize it, and if so, how, through visual or conceptual design is what I'm trying to ask I suppose. Do you try and generate the feelings of malice and hate that you described, or is it not nesseccary?
Khrymzynn
Clearwitch, that is almost exactly how I did it, right down to the shimmering green color. Very good, you say that you don't do a lot of shielding yourself? I doubt you're relying strongly on these Scary McNasties of yours if you can put together such a specific elemental shield.

Amadeo, I make sure that my shields are made from channeled energy (energy contained within me while I am centered and grounding, partly mine and partly universal). That makes it easier to maintain with little drain or concentration, and besides I always center and ground from a meditative trance, which is also the best time to build shields.
And I don't have to use my own malice, jealousy, defensiveness or remorse, I can borrow other people's and turn it to my ends. Most people don't mind donating that kind of emotional energy, so everyone profits. The shields themselves are built from channeled energy, and the elemental affinity is built from borrowed emotions. Nice combination.
Deathwish
I just got an idea, how about an inverted shield? I mean, normall your shield is set to keep others set, but what about a shield that when attacked, just sucks up the energy thrown at it? Hmmmm just pondering... ;)
Khrymzynn
Nice idea, I've tried it already. The problem is that if it gets overloaded, the backlash is as bad as taking the attack directly. that's why I layer my shields to bleed off the attack a piece at a time.
Liod
QUOTE (Khrymzynn @ Apr 24 2003, 12:14 AM)
Clearwitch, that is almost exactly how I did it, right down to the shimmering green color. Very good, you say that you don't do a lot of shielding yourself? I doubt you're relying strongly on these Scary McNasties of yours if you can put together such a specific elemental shield.

Amadeo, I make sure that my shields are made from channeled energy (energy contained within me while I am centered and grounding, partly mine and partly universal). That makes it easier to maintain with little drain or concentration, and besides I always center and ground from a meditative trance, which is also the best time to build shields.
And I don't have to use my own malice, jealousy, defensiveness or remorse, I can borrow other people's and turn it to my ends. Most people don't mind donating that kind of emotional energy, so everyone profits. The shields themselves are built from channeled energy, and the elemental affinity is built from borrowed emotions. Nice combination.

I do shielding as well, it's just a little hard to find the time to sit down and focus with two small kiddos and a huge lovesick doggy running around. I'm not sure I even remember what 'peace of mind' is anymore... :)

Amadeo, not just visualisation, you need to decide...as in planning. Unless you have everything clear in your head before you start it would be like building a model plane blindfolded.
Amadeo
Uh huh. Plan it ahead of time, I guess that means I'm gonna have to set up a couple practices. I still have yet to use a single one though, last time I tried to put one up, I got all woosy, same thing happened when I was trying to alleviate my brothers pain, he had hurt himself earleir that day, and it was really making his life miserable. Something tells me that positive uses for energy are gonna take me some time to get used to. I was thinking about the very same thing as Deathwish, doesn't work eh. Okay, I'm still not really a "borrower" of other people's energy yet, so is there a way that I could protect myself from this swooning effect without stealing from other's reserves?
Khrymzynn
Center and ground, partner, center and ground. The basics of energy manipulation, which can be picked up on any text about Kundalini (especially the bad ones) will cover this extensively. Let me cover it briefly.
KK, so, you are part of the cosmos, and all things are interconnected. Just make your energy part of the universal energy, especially the universal energy in your immediate environment, and channel that. Meditate, and let the universal energy course through you like water through a fountain (I like the fountain metaphor, it works well) coming up through the earth and into your body along your center line and then up out through the crown of your head and back into the environment. Borrowing a little from this flow is simple, easy, uncomplicated, and has no side effects. As long as you don't overextend or turn the energy to negative ends, you have access to plenty of energy if you just use what's available.
Amadeo
I don't have to do that when I do other things that I'm used to, or is it just easier then, because I remember doing that when I I first tried to do some Magick, as it was described in a wicca book. I had a dream yesterday, it was wonderful, I had perfected sheilding to such a way that is was unbreakable, by all of my various tries. My mastery didn't stop there though, I had mastered something I have been working on for a while. I'll make a thread about the technique, It is a fairly new idea to me, though you guys are more experienced and could think it among the basics.
Khrymzynn
Well, tell us about it and maybe we'll learn. It's more than possible that you give us too much credit. ^_^
It's always amazing what ideas and tricks you can pick up from others, especially from people so new to this stuff that they just run on their instincts and common sense.
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