???

Not I.

They certainly do exist today..some involved with The Catholic Church.

Very true. Personally Im not involved with the church, but I have ties there that help me at times.

i dont mean for this to sound affending to u "slayer"(it probably will, n sorry), but why did u come to this website :huh: , r u planning on slaying ppl over the internet?

It's odd though, that there were no slayers on the net untill Buffy started getting popular...

Anyway, Doom, did you have any direction you wanted this thread to go, or should I ship it straight over to Vampire Connections?

Perhaps true, but Buffy has been around since early 90's lol..but we both know that slayers exist in real life. Perhaps their RP fans came out when the Buffy mini series did.

I think the last recorded vampire slaying was in Slovenia in 1976... He went by it the traditional slavic way, by challenging the vampire to a fight, the hitting and kicking the vampire (which only he could see, special slayer trait) untill it was good and dead... Apparantly it looked remarkably similar to shadow boxing.

He got paid good money too...

Personaly, I preffer the term "vampire hunter", wich do honestly exist. They're people who believe vampires really exist, but they don't fight them or anything. They basicaly just study them and all that, and come up with theories and stuff, based on so called facts.

Sitts back in the shadows....
Watching......
seeing.........

First of all, No I dont plan on slaying anyone over the internet. THe internet is merely a tool I use. Second of all, Buffy is a pussy tv show which knows nothing about real slayings. Number 3, Slaying does not necessarily mean killing. There are other ways to "remove" vampires without killing the bodies they inhabit. And in case your wondering, I have nothing against vampires in general. I happen to know several. But when somebody wants me to hunt a vampire for whatever reason, I do it. Simple as that.

Would you mind sharing your knowledge?

Ah, redefining terms are we?

From Dictionary.com:


First: I like buffy.
Second: Buffy is overwhelmingly fictious. It does not try to pass itself off as reality, unlike Sightings for example.



Are you honestly trying to get us to believe that you hunt imaginary creatures? What do you do that with, a plastic He-man sword?

I'm sorry for being a little condescending, but show us some evidence.

I was just looking up your profile there Doom and here's what I found:



Necrophilia??

Are we to assume that after you "slay" a vampire you then, um...how to put this lightly...take advantage of the situation?

HHEEEEEEEEE-MMMMMAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNN

anyway LMAO
i won't do it again in this thread
and yeh a "slayer" kills vampires that's where the term slayer comes from sorry a better term is vampire watcher.... u know like bird watcher..... or vampire stalker which ever you like but if you use "slayer' ur killing them.... but buffy the movie was kick ass the show on the other hand was good for a season now i hate it; faith was hot

Not to hijack this, but I take issue with this on two levels. First, the show is still good (IMO) and second, Faith is still hot. :D

#1, Im not redefining anything. Killing vampires does not mean killing the bodies they inhabit, as I said earlier.

#2, yes Buffy is a fake tv show, as I said earlier.

#3, I do not perform necrophilia, its an interest of mine. I study and read about it, as I do vampirism. The titlle of the category is INTERESTS, not HOBBIES.

#4, Vampires are not fictional, therefore Im not hunting fictional characters. If you think vampires are fictonal, WHY ARE YOU HERE?

And to answer what somebody else asked about my methods of killing vampires besides killing the bodies they inhabit, it depends on the individual. There are several methods, but they always vary.

VAMPIRE KILLER!!!!!!

Slayers are usually Buffy wanna be's, and itz juss plain dumb!

Go up and read your post, you said this:



To which I respond: To slay is the definition of killing.


You said:




You didn't say you thought it was fake, and also your sentence appears as though you felt it should have some sort of obligation to speak whatever truth you think there is. It does not, it is fiction.


Fair enough, I had certainly hoped you didn't indulge. Although I still question why you have an interest in necrophilia, but that's for another time I suppose.



First: What type of vampires are you hunting? If there is nothing at all that differentiates then from human beings then what right do you have to *hunt* them? If you think they have any powers that regular humans do not possess then please, prove it.

I see, so because I don't *believe* in vampires I'm not supposed to be here? This coming from someone who just recently signed up too, the nerve. Until I get a pm from one of the mods/admins/or Sire I'm going to assume that I am welcome here, as is anyone with a modem and a computer.



What a helpful and totally ambigious answer! If there are several methods then I'm sure you can elaborate.

Hey slayer , why dont you PM me your address and i will show you what a real vamp is....

I hope you mean that in jest, because I think what you suggest is a very bad idea for both parties involved.

Ok well first, for the first paragraph wich I quoted. Hmm, I dunno. Maybe because it's a vampire disscusion site? Maybe it's just me, but I don't think this entire site was made for role playing, and weather one believes in vampires or not, I don't see why they should or shouldn't be here.

Second, okay killing the vampires wich inhabit human hosts. Obviously then, you seem to know a lot about vampires, although from the fact that you actually havn't explained anything, am I to assume you're just saying things? Tell me about vampiric possesion or whatever makes a vampire.
I'll also assume that since you speak of being a slayer and knowing several ways to ecxorcise vampires, then it's not a secret you want to keep. So why don't you tell me some of your methods? Me hates riddles, don't y know.

Let me get this straight.
1: Some crackhead decides that he is a vampire slayer. He obviously watches "Buffy", or else he'd call himself a hunter, like everyone of his type did before "Buffy".
2: Said crackhead logs onto http://www.vampires.com, a vampire discussion page, and starts conversations about slaying vampires, with people who either (1) admire vampires (2) are very interested in vampires, or (3) have claim to being vampires.
3: Crackhead does not expect to get flamed like the gay pride parade. Even though he disses "Buffy".
4: He is claiming to be a bounty hunter and a vampire slayer, and he is bringing this up in a vampire forum, rather like a duck hunter at an Audobon meeting.
5: What precisely is the federal penalty for transmitting a death threat across state lines? What is the appropriate penalty for transmitting a death threat across national boundaries?

well 1st off in order to be a slayer you would have to be very fit to even fight a vampire and would have to know the right way to kill them wich would be either fight untill dawn and trap them in the sun light (likely very hard to do) or cut the spinal cord at the top (chop the head off) wich would turn the vampire to ashes (as read by text) and there would be the only real way to "fight" them as do if they exist to those that are non belivers wich then i wouldn't even know why they would be here but thats another topic and the chances of a human with enough strenght and endance and that is interested in this topic and doing such a thing is very unlikely i could understand why a slayer but to help out doom i could understand why he came to the forum, to help better understand and perpare to slay vampires but they aren't bad at all as long as they keep it to willing victims and willing donners and they don't attack me so i find vampire quit good and slayers are interesting as well except for the whole killing deal that they could go with out i mean people please just try to get along keep to people that want things like someone wants to be turned for the right reason turn them some vampire wants to be slayen cuz he can't take it anymore slay him but don't do it ruthlessly just be kind about what u are and everything alright

I like your breakdown :D

And Ill show you what a real slaying is...

#1, Ok slaying means killing. So I guess Im killing. Take it how you want.

#2, Ok I didnt say Buffy was fake. I understand why you would respond the way you did because my comment want very well thought out.

#3, There are MANY things that differenciate vampires from humans. Thats why I can say Im hunting vampires. I have hunted humans as well, Im a bounty hunter by profession. And if you dont believe in vampires, fine, stay here all you want. Honestly I could care less what you believe in.

And as far as elaborating on my methods, NO. I have no reason to talk about my methods of what certain people may take as a crime. Not only that, but it took a long time for me to understand the methods I refer to, and posting it on here for anyone to read is not going to mean anything.

First off, my official profession title is Bounty Hunter, I just thought Slayer would be more appropriate on here. And no, I dont smoke crack.

Second of all, I logged onto this website (thank you for posting the address by the way, I never would have remembered it) to discuss vampires like everyone else. Ive already said ample times that I have nothing against vampires. But if Im hired to find one, I do it. If you dont like that, find an open shoulder to cry on.

Number 3, I could care less about getting "flamed" or whatever the fuck you call it. Honestly, I expected it from people like you. Either way, it doesnt matter to me.

And as far as the federal penalty for death threats? It depends on where the threat is coming from, who it is going to, and how serious it is. It also varies depending on state lines and national boundaries.

VAMPIRE KILLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps it's time for someone with a bit of a legal background to step in and provide the 411.

The penalty for a death threat, issued over interstate lines or over international boundaries... quite an interesting topic at this moment.

Being argued right now in Superior Court in Cleveland, Ohio right now is a case where a user in Texas issued a death threat to a user in Idaho over a BBS system physically located in Cleveland.

Let's play pretend. Let's say this instance would have happened in April 2001, which took place before the dreaded 9/11. At this time, he would have been charged with multiple offenses, the most notable of which being felony menacing and a violation of the electronic protection act of 1999. Since the crime took place across state lines, it would have automatically been charged as a federal crime. The issuer would have faced a minimum of two and maximum of 12 years in a federal prison. Most likely, he would have served 1 year 9 months, recieved strict probation, and had the additional penalty of never being legally allowed to use any computing/communications devices again.

However... this is post 9/11 America. What the issuer was charged with was essentially terrorism. He faces life in prison without possibility of parole.

For those living overseas, it's no simple ride either. For starters, nearly every country in the world would bow to an extradition request in the face of a coming massive war, and many of those countries would also try the offender in their country. In other words... foriegn peoples using the internet to threaten Americans often face double jeapordy. Already indicted under these methods are two French men who threatened to kill a New Yorker (this particular issue arose when the NY woman simply stated she was a NY woman, and the French men went off on a tangent about how she was trying to suck for attention RE: 9/11), a New Zealand woman who threatened to come to America and kill a North Carolina man, and a Canadian man who threatened to "saw the head off" of the family of a man living in Washington State.

Of note is the fact that it is almost impossible to threaten someone living in your state without ever having the electronic message travel out of your state. If they live in your state, and you live in Louisiana, and you threaten them on Yahoo!'s chat, you're a candidate for this law being pressed on you due to the fact that Yahoo!'s servers are not in Louisiana. The signal passed out of your state, so you're nailed.

Doom, I have a few bits of advice for you. Number one, you've already tantamountly admitted to murdering people. This is not lost on some of us. While it's most likely that you're 17 and trying to "out-badass" everyone else here, it is quite possible that you are indeed a murderer. Secondly, after making a violent nature known, you're making users here VERY uncomfortable with talk of murder and vampire hunting. I'd watch what you say EXTREMELY closely; you can be tracked to your location and arrested for investigation by federal law agencies if you arouse the interest of the wrong people.

You'll be watched, Doom, by the moderation and administration staff of this site.

Mmkay...everyone step back and take a few deep breaths here. No need to get personal, or resort to namecalling. I'd like you guys to stick to the actual facts at hand, however hilarious that little rundown was, you have no reason to assume he smokes crack, Khrymzynn.

Dead Soul...lay off the private adress crusade for a while. If you want it, you can pm him, but wether or not he wishes to meet you is his choice, and his alone. His reasons for wanting, or not wanting to, are privare, and are not to be used as arguments in a further discussion. Keep it in pm, where it belongs.

tHeDaUgHtEr&tHeLoVeR: Stop that. If uyou want to parttake in the discussion, keep civil and to the point, not by throwing out accusations. You have no proof that he has actually murdered someone.

Doom: try to remember what this site is about. Your claims are very controversial, even worse than the ones yours truly throws out every now and then. This is basically like walking into the Church of Satan bragging about killing devilworshippers.

As far as this site is concerned, vampires are humans with perhaps a few extra abilities, different habits, and tastes. But there is no reason to kill them, they are human. And I honestly doubt a bounty hunter will be asked to hunt vampires, any more than he'd be asked to perform exorcisms or banish demons.

So, a word of advice to you and other aspiring vampire slayers, until the infamous witchhunt and Malleus Maleficarum gets politically correct again, advocating the extintion of vampires will not be accepted here.

Khrymzynn :

Nice breakdown my dear....

Personally I think your are *imagining* but I digress.



Where did you get your license and in what state? What class did you take to be a bounty hunter?
I'm not going to take you to town about the *many* things that differenciate vampires from humans, because in terms of this discussion it is pointless.



How convient. I can't show you my methods, but trust me, they exist. Arguing from authority, eh?
Just give us methods and don't say you use them, legal problem solved. Say "from what I've read you can non-fatally slay a vampire by....".

Who gave you your license?



What methods do you use to find people? Since you seem to be an *official* bounty hunter then you should know the usual methods. Do the police interfer with your investigation?

What state did I get my bounty hunter licence in? New York. You may not realize this, but being a bounty hunter is legal. Most Bounty Hunters are above the law in fact. Ive been one for three years, and I have several permits including carrying weapons and necessarily killing. Whethern or not Im hunting vampires doesnt matter, its my job.

I dont expect you to differenciate between vampires and humans with me. I realize as you do that there are many differences between them. Ive been saying that all along.

And like I said, my methods are those that Ive studied myself, and merely saying them will mean nothing. And Im not about to explain all the things I know on some internet chat board, thats just not how it works. Lets just say that hunting vampires and hunting humans isnt all that different.

I hate to tell you, Ive never admitted to "murdering" anybody. Bounty Hunting is a LEGAL profession. Bounty Hunters work with the law, understand? Besides my military background, I have sereral law licences. Ive never murdered anybody. In fact, I dont recall ever saying that I even have killed anybody!

I honestly dont know what everybodys problem is here. But Ill be the man and APOLOGIZE if Ive made anybody uncomfortable or feel threatened. I never meant to threaten anyone, so if I did, once again I apologize. I was merely curious see if anyone was intersted in hunting/slaying/whatever, ok? I have nothing against vampires, or anybody else, as Ive said.

And like I said, my methods are those that Ive studied myself, and merely saying them will mean nothing. And Im not about to explain all the things I know on some internet chat board, thats just not how it works. Lets just say that hunting vampires and hunting humans isnt all that different.

I don't understand. You don't want to devoid your methods, explanations or justifications for vampire killing, yet you come here to brag and tell us about your rights and skills as a so called Slayer? Is there a point to this?

Is there a point why you came here? I'll follow Creature Feature's suggestion that you're just trying to outbad-ass everyone.

Yes I know bounty hunters are legal-I used to work with Private Investigators who were Bounty Hunters on the side. My work was in insurance adjusting, BTW.



Bullshit.

Are you actually trying to get us to believe that you have a license to kill?



Argument from authority. This is a weak excuse for not posting "your" methods BTW. I'm pretty sure everyone is seeing through your BS.

Of course not. Instead of giving us a glimmer of proof you prefer to let us rely on "trusting" you?
Also, not how it works? Um...whatever.



I totally agree with you as a matter of fact. One involves hunting actual beings and the other should require heavy doses of medication.

Vampirism is (IMO) a lifestyle, perhaps not necessarily a chosen one, but it is one none-the-less.

What "law licenses" do you have? Military background??? I don't think they would let someone who believed in supernatural vampires into the military. How old are you?



Everyone's problem is that no one believes you.

:rolleyes:



:rolleyes:

Ok if there really are vampire slayers....wouldn't that be like murder? And what would be the point? You would most likely get caught and sent to jail and maybe even executed................. Would it be worth that just to kill a vampire? Just sorta wondering.....

Yup.

Personally, I think it's all bravado.

good work meatros! :D u won 4 sure! lol.

but yeh, n e way, were u really expecting other slayers 2 be here Doom? <_< riiiiiiiiiittee ...................... <_< :lol:

Well it's not quite as straight out as that, since it's not quite that common in North America I have a very strong intuishin (sp) that in Europe it carries on in a bit differant matter..there are still old times to be had in our homelands..as I said, there is talk being closed doors at the Catholic Church that hold many answers to vampires and slayers and they probably intend to keep it that way.

well.... on a vampires or a believer perspective yes it is
to a human perspective or a someone who is a slayer or religious (not saying all will) it isn't

If your asking what would be the point of a Slayer, then I ask you this! What would be the point of a vampire. Either one if cought would pay a price!

::raises her eyebrows::

Sorry Clear......I just get emotional sometimes about VAMPIRE SLAYERS...
*Laughs*
It won't happen again...Promise...
*Looks innocent*
B) ^_^

i wish a slayer would even dream of coming near me.

If you took the time to make an account just to come here and say this, then I imagine you must be pretty life impared.