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drk_phreak
Probably a silly question but here goes :

When and where do you think vamps began? When did they become common knowledge to the world before they became they became popular in movies and books?? Anyone actually know???? I mean how far back does the vampire legend go exactly??
CultHero
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Tales of the dead craving blood are ancient. In Homer's Odyssey, for example, the shades that Odysseus meets on his journey to the underworld are lured to the blood of freshly sacrificed rams, a fact which Odysseus uses to his advantage to summon the shade of Tiresias. Roman fables describe the strix, a nocturnal bird that fed on human flesh and blood. The Roman strix is the source of the Romanian vampire, the Strigoi, which was also influenced by the Slavic vampire.

In early Slavic folklore, a vampire drank blood, was afraid of (but could not be killed by) silver, and could be destroyed by cutting off its head and putting it between the corpse's legs, or by putting a wooden stake into its heart.

Medieval historians and chroniclers Walter Map and William of Newburgh recorded the earliest English stories of vampires in the 12th century.


Vampire From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

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Types of beliefs in vampires
It seems that until the 19th century, vampires in Europe were thought to be hideous monsters rather than the debonair vampire made popular by later fictional treatments. They were usually believed to rise from the bodies of suicide victims, criminals, or evil magicians, though in some cases an initial vampire thus 'born of sin' could pass on his vampirism onto his innocent victims. In other cases, however, a victim of an untimely or cruel death was susceptible of becoming a vampire.

In Moravia, vampires were fond of throwing off their shrouds and attacking their victims in the nude.

In Bulgaria, a vampire had only one nostril and slept with his left eye open and his thumbs linked. It was held responsible for cattle plagues.

In Aztec mythology, the Civatateo was a sort of vampire, created when a noblewoman died in childbirth.

In Australian aboriginal mythology, the "Yara-Ma-Yha-Who"  was a vampire with suckers on his fingers that lurked in fig trees.

In Malaysian folklore, the Penanggalan was a vampire whose head could separate from its body, with its entrails dangling from the base of its neck. The Pontianak was a female vampire that sucked the blood of newborn babies and sometimes that of young children or pregnant women.

In Philippine folklore, the Manananggal was a female vampire whose entire upper body could separate from her lower body and who could fly using wings. She sucked the blood of fetuses. The Aswang was believed to always be a female of considerable beauty by day and, by night, a fearsome flying fiend. She lived in a house, could marry and have children, and was a seemingly normal human during the daylight hours.

Gypsy tradition in the Balkans is said to have held that melons and pumpkins may become vampires; see the article on vampire watermelons.

In the Caribbean, vampires known as Soucoyant in Trinidad and Tobago, Ol' Higue in Jamaica, and Loogaroo in Grenada, take the form of old women during the day, and at night shed their skin to become flying balls of flame who seek blood. They were said to be notoriously obsessive compulsive, and could be thwarted by sprinkling salt or rice at entrances, crossroads and near beds. The vampire would feel compelled to pick up every grain. They could also be killed by rubbing salt into their discarded skin, which would burn them upon returning to it before morning.

In India (especially in the southern state of Kerala) vampires (known as Yakshis) were beautiful women who seduced men in order to kill or eat them. They are said to be averse to iron objects in addition to other religious symbols, and could be killed by driving an iron nail through the head. They could also be imprisoned in trees using blessed objects. India is also home to the vetala, a wraithly vampire that can leave its host body to feed.

In the modern folklore of Latin America, the chupacabra is a vampiric creature that feeds upon domesticated animals.

Other vampire types:

Brazilian vampires had plush-covered feet.
Chinese vampires are also known as Hopping corpses.
Mexican vampires were easily recognizable by their fleshless skulls.
The Rocky Mountain vampires sucked the blood out of its victim's ears using its pointed nose.


Different vampire myths have been around for ages. Even Egyptian hieroglyphics have been found depicting vampires.
Ravager
There are some interesting myths in this topic.

http://forum.darkness.com/index.php?showtopic=103&hl=
drk_phreak
Thanks a lot - that's great. But tell me this are these what you believe????
Ryoka
its true, vamprie tales are as hold as humanity itself. all over the world each culture has created its own myths and ledgends about vampries. in the anciant world, it wouldn't have been hard for people to imagain a monster that feed on human blood. the stories may have also been fulled by mysterus deaths involing drained blood. cases we could solve today, but not back then. i'm sure a monster would be blamed for un explainable events like that. though its kinda wierd, starting off as a frighting creature, people do day have come to love the vampire. its alittle wierd i think.
Tasslehoff
I'd say I belive in Kain or Cain I've seen it spelled as both he was the beginning and then he mystirelesly dissapears {basicaly the same storyline of blade three} and when hen he is awaken he will kill an eat everything.{ basicaly the apocalopse}
Khrymzynn
Thanks a lot there, Tasslehoff. *cough*Gehenna*cough*
Has anyone considered that they might have always been there, that they have been around as long as, or much longer than, the human race? Who's to say that there were not australopithecus vampires before there were homo sapiens vampires? If this condition can be passed to something besides a pure human, there is no reason to believe that is confined to humanity, or that it originated with humanity.
Hmm, a hominid vampire. Lots of people believe that the older a vampire is, the more powerful it gets. What do you say to one that's over a million years old?
The only reason that I can think of to believe that vampirism is not older than humanity is to believe in a religious creation myth, like Genesis from the Bible, in a very literal and fundamentalist way. I am religious, but I'm no fundie, I don't believe that Genesis was the full literal fact of the creation of the universe. I believe in dinosaurs, and I believe in evolution, and I believe that humanity as a species does not have a very special place in the workings of the cosmos, nobody in the Higher Office is giving us any special attention or perks.
Then again, I also believe that God answers hamster's prayers and that some dogs go to hell. I believe some weird stuff. ^_^
Sanctuary
You can also add to the list of possibilities the Nephilim.

Genesis 6:4 states "The Nephilim were on the earth in those days --and also afterwards-- when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown." The Nephilim were a race of giants that were produced by the sexual union of the sons of God (presumably fallen angels) and the daughters of men. Translated from the Hebrew texts, "Nephilim" means "fallen ones." They were renowned for their strength, prowess, and a great capacity for sinfulness.

The origination of the Nephilim begins with a story of the fallen angels. Shemhazai, an angel of high rank, led a sect of angels in a descent to earth to instruct humans in righteousness. The tutelage went on for a few centuries, but soon the angels pined for the human females. After lusting, the fallen angels instructed the women in magic and conjuring, mated with them, and produced hybrid offspring: the Nephilim.

The Nephilim were gigantic in stature. Their strength was prodigious and their appetites immense. Upon devouring all of humankind's resources, they began to consume humans themselves. The Nephilim attacked and oppressed humans and were the cause of massive destruction on the earth.


The rest can be found here:
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/n/nephilim.html
Lollipop
You could also look to Lilith. With the whole preying on the descendant's of Adam thing as pay back for the Angels slaughtering her children. I dunno, just tossing out an idea.
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