[2.10] Will a "REAL" vampyre please come turn me into one?

From time to time, somebody posts a request like this to the group. Before you go about doing this yourself, consider the following scenario: _If_ vampires do exist, they may not be exactly what you have been led to expect from books, films, and role playing games. So if you make such a request you are publicly expressing a desire to escape into the fantasy world you have seen in these media. Don't embarrass yourself. Your request will win you more flames and ridicule than actual discussion about vampirism. Further, anybody on this group who would have the power to 'turn' you would be putting him/herself in grave danger (no pun intended) by exposing his/her true nature.

You might also want to consider that someone who _truly_ believes he/she is a vampire is more likely to be a criminally insane than undead. Do you really want to invite a dangerous psychopath to come and suck your blood out?

Should you become the unfortunate recipient of a ton of private e-mail from somebody who wishes you to turn him/her into a vampire (and if you stick around long enough, it will probably happen), the best course of action is *not* to just ignore it. That type of person tends to be quite persistent. Instead, write back to the person and explain succinctly that the power to create vampires in not in your hands, and any further requests concerning being 'turned' will result in you mailing the requester's postmaster. This may not be the friendliest way of handling these people, but it seems to be the most efficacious.

Why do you say that they're maniacs? They seem to be quite smart for crazy people claiming to be vampires. Some are saying that they do not want to transform any people or that they'll do it when the time comes. Are those real vampires? How can you know if they are, or not? Of course, not all are vampires, but really, come on. Could so many people be just pretending? Some, maybe some more, but all? I can't believe that there are so many crazy people. In fact, why are they just claimng this? For the people who trust in them? and what if they are real vampires?

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Why not? Look what happend in Salem. People made things up and it was believed. Why not now?

*Opinion*
Christianity is based on a pretend God and look how many people follow that. Any one with real sense can see that forcing out mans natural senses will never come to be. Even if it is 'Gods will'.

Salem was less a case of making things up, and more a case of fear. Those that were burned were those that refused to falsely accuse someone else of witchcraft, those that survived were those too afraid to stand up against the will of the mob.

Salem isn't an argument for much of anything beyond mob behavior - which doesn't necessarily apply in this case, as many of those either claiming to be a vampire or believing they are some manner of half-breed or developing vampire began to do such in relative social isolation.

What you have here are (in many cases) perfectly lucid teenagers, adults, whatever, that claim to either be or be becoming something that convential logic says is the rambling of an insane person - yet here they stand, perfectly sane, still able to come to the conclusion that they have.

... all that said, one simple point remains - whether they are sane or real or not is irrelevant, since a vampire still isn't likely to come at the beck and call of random internet person #123232.

I do not think that any actually intelligent being would directly ask to be turned. First off, IF vampires exist, I have to agree with Sire on the fact that they are probably not what anyone really expects from movies and such. And secondly, if they are real, vampires are hunters. They feed out of hunger, neccesity, and possibly pleasure of the hunt and/or kill. If I was a vampire for example, and I had a bunch of ppl posting on the internet "Please come turn me" I would laugh at the prospect. I would rather CHOOSE MY OWN prey, and if so be it, my own "children", rather than have them seek me out. But, this is just my opinion and I hope none of my comments have been offensive. I am simply but a face among the masses, a voice among the waves of an ocean.

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Okay, so besides my post regarding the name of "vampire"

For mmyself, I know that the part of wanting to be a "vampire" ( amnd I am expressing myself and exposing myself here) was not the blood drinking part and wanting to live a fantasy part - at least to some exstent. What was really apprealing, at least from the books and stuff, was the love of times gone by (Renaussance etc) and being able to liove through the ages and discover new times and see how humanity progresses.

well, vampires does exist, but if someone wants his blood to be suck, that's something else..But why are we supposed to be crazy or dangerous ? for example, if a cute girl open her legs in front of me and wants to have sex with me, what will i do ? i will rape her ?? no, i will make love to her or i will fuck her..

If a girl cuts herself and wants to give me her blood, what will i do ? i will drink it all, leaving her dead and running away from it ?? no, i will drink what she wants to give me and if she says it's enough, well i'll stop..

sigh..

And then run to the nearest clinic for AIDS testing!

People who claim they are vampres may not all be crazy... in fact I would say most are just pretending they are to relieve boredom.

As for the Salem witch trials it is now believed that the whole situation was caused by a case of ergot poisoning Ergot Poisoning - the cause of the Salem Witch Trials People where behaving in ways others didn't understand and because they couldn't explain it it must have been the work of the devil.

Knowledge seeker... Think about it for a secondi.

In my opinion i think vampyres are real, wether they are or can be immortal i dont know or really care,. Bue i think it would take a strong minded man to handle that stress. Think about it, you may see cities rise and fall, but at what price? You wouldnt be able to befriend anyone without outliving them, and after befriending then loosing possibly thousands of people while you live on, it would do quite a job on your mind. Let alone the prospect of if desperate possibly having to feed on a friend.

And showing your true light to someone could result in death anyways. So you might have to go into a secluded place of hiding, praying for the day you die, not getting to see any of the things you wanted to see.

just a mans 2 cents....

Well, perhaps.. But not necessarily. It is possibly for one to feed upon sexual (pranic, I believe?) energy, as well. Although, for many that sort of thing is more likely a blood/roleplaying fetish rather than an actual "vampiric" characteristic..

Exactly! You understand it completely! I realize that vampires cannot turn into wolves or bats, or turn into fog and slip into key holes. But they can, if they do exist beyond the of course scientifically blood disease, see the future, see the progress man kind makes. If it were simply wanting to live forever, then we all do that anyway, don't we? As ghosts, or spirits. I'm not certain if god exists, I won't pretend that I am. But I know for a fact that ghosts do exist. I, as crazy as this may sound, sense them. I have been able to ever since I was a small child.

Well said. I really can't imagine that vampires (if they exist) are the sort who randomly turn teenagers they meet on the internet. (I have noticed that most the people who ask such things are in the teen years)

Also, showing up and putting yourself in a vunerable position with anyone you don't know is pretty dumb, especially someone who claims to eat your species for lunch.

Vampyres have been glamourized by modern media, with movies like Blade and Underworld, with romance books staring some random person and a vampyr. the truth is if vampyrs do exist they do not exist for your beck and call to come turn you into one. if vampyrs do exist, than most of the folklore surrounding them is false. what better way to stay hidden than live amongst those who refuse to acknowledge your existence? and what better way to stay alive than to dispense rumours about your abilities and restrictions?

I would also wonder why should they all be lying and pretending? It's not like we gain any prominance or prestige on the internet, especially with the anonyminity factor. There would be no benefit for us to reveal ourselves, in fact we put ourselves at risk for many things, such as discovery, ridicule and a dozen other things, so it would intruige me as to why someone would just simply claim to be a vampire, but then again you get people that wish they were only because they don't know what it's like. I belive most vampires keep it to themselves in real life, I know I do..only a select few know of what I am, but we go to the internet to discuss with our kind problems or questions that only our kind would understand.

well even if vampyres are real most acts of modern day vamperism is a sexual desire witch goes under many names and if some one wants to "turn"you weather or not you agree to it is your sexual oppinion and you will do with it what you please no matter what i or any one else says but all internet actions should be taken with caution no matter who you are or what your doing

I was reading all of these intresting points. I feel that the main issue of "please come and turn me." is the fact that vampires don't really exist I read in a few points that I agree with that it's mostly a sexual, LARP, or fetish type of deal. It puts you in a state of mind of control, "love", fantasy, a relm that isn't seen often anymore in todays day and age. It's juvinial to think that they exist. I say that to then say I am reminded that most of the people on this site (weither we want to admit it or not) all have wished that they do. That faires really can bewitch the mind, that you could walk down an alley wake up in a strange mansion and be a bride of the undead. What a fantasy life! Unfortuantly it's not real, but we have sites, like this one, where we can pretend, and slip into that world, and for a little while all of our fantasyies come true... isn't that what this is all about anyway?

You would be surprised how accurate can folklore be. and I dont mean novels and stuff,no, I mean real legends, from Rumania, etc. Precisely because media has not touched them, because the peopel who actually lived it has todl them, then many of the details are correct.... of course many are just fantasy.

But you have a point. The best way to hide without actually going into hidding is to act as those you have around you: regard yourself as a legend and/or novel and create a fantastic world around your race.


And there are other types of vampires, much more real thant he blood-sucking ones.

I can suck energy from a person if she/he is willing or give some of my own energy, but I cannot turn anyone into a soemone like me, becasue I was born with it, I wasn't turned. I coudl be called a "vampire" cause I suck vital energy, but I'm not. I'm just a normal human that has some of her senses a little more developed than the rest. Maybe that's why many people claim to be what they are not: becaseu they dont' knwo and get carried away.

No 'real' Vampire would 'turn' you. You should be very wary of anyone who says they will. Lots of these people are potentially dangerous. Not because they are vampires, but because they are NOT.


It is written that only the elders have the power of life after death, and it is not a gift they bestow lightly. Also no candidate will be considered until they have reached at least their thirty-fifth year.
You would have to have abilities or knowledge that the vampire/clan would find of use in the millenia to come. It is a little like wanting to emigrate to Australia or Canada, they will only allow you to become a citizen if you can prove you have useful skills that would benefit the country as a whole.

No-one can remember a time when this happened, and mostly even in Vampire circles turning is considered a 'myth'.

Velvet Darkness.

personaly i see no problem in requesting to be turned, so long as you have thought it through. if you have verry little to live for, and are decently sure your going to hell anyway(provided you believe in hell) then why not. you hve nothing to live for so if they turn out to be a killer then you needent worry. but if it turns out to be the real deal, then you just found one hell of a great thing.

so really it all depend on your situation weather or not asking to be turned is smart or not. honestly though i woulsn't do it unless i was suicidal.

How do we know or not know if vampires exist...we most likely won't. Only because why would they want to give such vital information about them being one out into the open. It's there secret, they could live amongest us as acting as normal as humans and we would never know or really be able to tell the difference. The whole thing with wanting to be changed is a very touchy subject. Think about the possibilities and what you are wanting it is a major change from the mortal life.

I agree, the appeal was the same for me. Imagine all of the knowledge that could be gained from experiencing so many time periods. Yes, that would be amazing...


Loki,

THANK YOU for posting this topic! For the last four years that I've been a member here, I've had to read post after post from Gothic teenagers, begging vampires to "turn" them. And the fact is, whether vampires are real or not doesn't matter, because any real vampire would never respond to such a ridiculous request, and wouldn't want someone so ignorant to become an immortal. And I doubt a "real" vampire would be advertising themselves over the internet... secrecy would be more important to them than anything.

Akasha9009,
He's not saying that all vampires are crazy, or that they definitely don't exist, only that if they do exist, the real ones wouldn't respond to such a request, and those who do respond are probably posers who have taken the fantasy a bit too far... and would you want to trust your safety and health to some stranger over the internet who claims to be a real vampire who can turn you? Anyone who would say "I will turn you" just based on an ignorant request in an online forum is most likely a dangerous lunatic on a power trip.


EXAMPLE-- About a year ago, I actually had an e-mail from a guy who claimed to be a "real" immortal vampire, and told me that he wanted to turn me, but that the "turning" method described in books and movies was wrong. He said that feeding from me and having me feed from him was not the way to "turn" me, but that the only way to do it was if he had sex with me. I AM NOT KIDDING. This dude, claiming to be an immortal, who didn't know anything about me, said he wanted to turn me, and could only do so if I had sex with him. The saddest part is, if the thought that would work on me, what are the chances that it's already worked with someone else? Don't be stupid, guys...

~Sky

I agree entirely. The long life and witnessing history would be incredible. Seeing the changes humanity goes through would be more than worth the price of admission. Another factor though, would be the ability to make changes and steer humanity's course as well. Imagine where we could be now if a vampire in a position of hidden strength had steered our country away from foreign oil back in the 70's and whispered the right words into the ears of those making the public decisions about alternative fuels and technologies. Imagine a vampire, having witnessed history and someone's interpretation of it, being able to navigate around "politics" and get to the real heart of matters both home and abroad. Where would the world be now? If only from a selfish perspective, said vampire would have a much healthier herd from which to feed, but from a benevolent angle, the entirer country or world could be more healthy and comfortable by now.

Then, of course, there are also the personal strengths and powers.

Shalafi