[1.04] Do you REALLY think vampyres exist?

It would depend upon your definition of the term 'vampyre'. If you are referring to people who drink blood as a source of pleasure and/or nourishment... then certainly!... vampyres exist! There are many organizations dedicated to the practice and teaching of blood drinking. You may reach them by contacting some of the groups listed in question [3.03]. However, if by 'vampyre' you are referring to the supernatural beings who have risen from their graves to feed upon the living... like the popular ones from literature and movies... I would have to say it depends upon the individual posters. Therefore, do not make assumptions that someone does or does not believe in vampyres. Do not ridicule them. You may ask questions if done with respect and courtesy.

The people on this group who write as if they were vampyres are not intending to mislead anyone; they are (probably) doing it purely for entertainment, creating a sort of interactive story in this group. At least, that's what you have to hope... Unfortunately, like most of the groups which discuss fiction or myth from a non-academic standpoint, we occasionally get some idiot who feels that anyone who would discuss something that (in his/her/its opinion) does not exist... must be stupid or have some psychological problem. These should be reported, so that we can suspend their posting ability.

I'm not really sure on that. I mean noone has any proof to say that they do or don't exist. I mean it would be cool if they did (the super-natural kind).

To be honest I do not think that the supernatural kind exists. I do think that all these vampire stories had a begining in the real life....but as time went on they were improved, so to say, so that the reader would be more interested and captivated by these fictional persons.
"If you are referring to people who drink blood as a source of pleasure and/or nourishment... then certainly!... vampyres exist!"
In this sence vampires do exist.
But this just my opinion.

You ask about a real vampires existance do you not? Hark! They are mortals turned mortals of darkness but believe they are immortal. The desire for blood is more than mentality but rather pure heredity. Blood to them is like a source of energy. They an undesirable feeling crawling in their body when they don't have it. Like an heredity addiction. The name of this gene or disease I know not. Where and when it began, few know but they sublime truth into lie. The liking for darkness is inevitable for haunted souls. Anyway, that's my thought. If vampires were real, they might have died, but their spirit, their haunted souls, live on.

i hope they exist. the definition IS a problematic matter, for i dont think any1 really knows what are they. not here anyway. i do think every1 claiming to b a vamp here isnt one.
i know its just a game but the masquerade idea makes a lot of sense.
i cant think what would become of their society if they would have exposed themselves like this to the big world.

The question is why do you doubt or ask your self if.
That's the same with the devil or god are they or are they not?
Why not beceause you can't see them?
That is the best trick they ever pulled let people belief they were never,
alive nor ever lived just a myth for people to belief in when they are in need.

On the whole vampire issue, I'm really unsure about it all. I mean, the super-natural psychic flyinf turnto bats thing, no, I don't believe in. On the blood drinkers, sure. I mean, they'd have to drink more than just blood (you can't live on blood alone) but yea. The whole concept though is awesome. As long as no one comes up to me in the streets and starts sucking my blood, then rock on with the vampyres. How do I join?

Ah, well, it would indeed depend on one's interpretation of a "vampyre". But as for the supernatural sort, I don't believe we could determine that for certain. Because, that question would inevitably lead us to questioning if other sorts of creatures of that nature existed, also.

I believe that most of us humans do not function to the best of our natural ability, and so I would say that there could very well be a plethora of things that exist (where it is creatures, or other things) that we are not perceptive enough to acknowledge-- perhaps due to social conditioning, programmed ways of thinking, and natural abilities that we have that remain unused.

Vampires can exist if you want to believe they do. Just as God exists if you want to believe He does. I think it's more a matter of opinion than anything else.

I believe that I have not yet seen conclusive evidence to prove that they do or do not exist, and so it doesn't really matter too much at present.

I find the term vampyre rather broad. I believe there are sanguinarians and there are blood fetishists. I find that many fetishist are confused by the nature of the blood craving, or the excitement they get from it and read more into the equation than is actually there. Meaning while there are true sanguinarians there are also faux sanguinarians. I do not believe either have heightened prowess or are superior.

I think if the Hollywood vampires existed, or any facsimile there of cannot be proven nor dismissed, as I do not believe they would go around broadcasting their presence. The legends which began the vampire history had to have some basis. Perhaps it was nothing more than misinterpretations of things occuring naturally such as lengthened hair and nails on corpses. Yet none of us were there and the origins of the original vampire have been buried in centuries of tales. The fact these sort of legends occur in every country does give one cause to wonder .

[COLOR=purple] I agree with what your saying Soulfire. People believe in God, even though they can't see him..I myself truly do believe that Vampires once exsisted & still do to this very day.

Apparently there's a medical condition in which the individual doesn't get enough iron (I think it's iron) and feeds on blood because it's a rich source. I can't remember what this condition is called, but in ancient times I can imagine the drinking of blood or eating of livers (or is it kidney? I forget) would be the most effective way of dealing with such a medical condition. There is also another medical condition in which the individual cannot go out into sunlight because of their skin pigmentation (it's not albino, there's something different about it). I think that the root of a lot of things commonly associated with physical Vampyres can be found in such things.

I also definitely believe in energy vampyres.

Apparently there's a medical condition in which the individual doesn't get enough iron (I think it's iron) and feeds on blood because it's a rich source. I can't remember what this condition is called, but in ancient times I can imagine the drinking of blood or eating of livers (or is it kidney? I forget) would be the most effective way of dealing with such a medical condition. There is also another medical condition in which the individual cannot go out into sunlight because of their skin pigmentation (it's not albino, there's something different about it). I think that the root of a lot of things commonly associated with physical Vampyres can be found in such things.

I also definitely believe in energy vampyres.

If Vampyres didn't exist they made this whole poll up for nothing.

I do believe that they exist. There are people who dread sunlight and there are the ones more adapted to the enviroment. I suggest reading a book called Peeps, really interesting and it helps you to understand the race. I believe in all things, Jesus. Demons, werewolves and elfs. Just because you can not see doesn't mean it don't exist.

Hello i go by Kota Mura and i would like to help here ive been watching these conversations for sometime now. i know not what i may and may not say so i will be open and respectful as i can. Vampires are real as far as the source of the myths go. i am speaking of the kind that take energy or "Chi" as some call it, now the myths are of orignal asian origin if one looks it up Chi in the times of old and even today in some cases can mean lifeforce,energy and more common today Earth
when the myth finally came to america it was miss understood as a creature who sucks the blood of his victims to survive. however it started as a human with ability to take the very energy of other living or nonliving things and control that energy in whatever way they wish. The "myth" was translated wrong and came to replace Chi ,Energy with the older meaning lifeforce which the americans had taken strictly to mean the "lifeforce" of living things rather than all things in the universe, namely....Blood. this is all i have to say.

you might wish to check out for a creature typically known as "bat-vampire" (many pictures in google). this mammalian actually drinks blood from it's prey in small quantity. by having such a similar characteristic from the popular vision of "vampyre", might worth a check...

Vampires exist. I think so, because we create in our mind something that can take a shape, like a thought. imagine a lot of people thinking about the same thing at the same time, how this happen...
when we create somthing, it really stars to exist...
I think this can happen wih vampires too...
energetic vampires, blood vampires...
who knows??if we believe in gods or goddesses, why not in vampires?

i believe supernatural vampires do exist, but that they hide their existence very well, and it takes blind faith to believe they exist just like with God or any other un-provable thing. but thats just my opinion on it

I sorta believe that they exist. Who knows? We have not discovered every corner of this world. If they did exist that would be cool.

I believe That They could exisT!

I read This book once of some guy That researched The vampire, and it goes back a hell of a long Time, and people from all culltures and religions all have a name for Them To.

So They are known everywhere!

I Think morTal vampires exist ofcourse, but noT The kind They show in movies. ;)

Do vampyres exist? Who knows. Though I'm sure they are not the undead (If they really exist). I have heard they need to get blood for nourishment, it's something like a biological condition not a psychological one. There are many theories as well as different views on this "phenomenon".

I have wondered about this and did some homework. There is no true scientific evidence laid out in a medical journal that proves for a fact that a supernatural being exists under the guise of a vampire. For that matter there isn’t one for any other supernatural being or creature. This for most dismisses the notion that they exist. I for one still hold the belief that there could be other beings similar to us (Homo sapiens) that walk the Earth today. There is constant evidence that others were here when we were, the Neanderthal for example. There is archeological evidence of other races similar to us existing during our beginnings and why could they not be here even today? The Coelacanth was thought to be extinct yet they live as do other creatures. The more we study man and other creatures the more we learn that would be considered science fiction or supernatural. The sheer complexity of the human body is staggering. Creatures that emit bioluminescence or generate sonic waves or electricity, ones that see in infrared or smells through their skin are all around us. Creatures that re-grow missing limbs like starfish or remain dormant for years and spring to life and other animals that live for hundreds of years. In all areas of the animal kingdom there are parasitic members, bats, leeches, birds, fish and insects which require a specific host to survive. Why not a humanoid? How could you completely dismiss the idea that there is not a person that could lay dormant for long periods of time that is parasitic in nature and has a long life span? Even one that had what might seem like supernatural powers until they were proven to be scientific fact. I think people who dismiss the notion of vampires have not stepped back and taken a good look at how complex the World is in which they live. We have only been really using science to study our world for about 150 years and that focus has been limited. Imagine what we might learn in the next 150 or 10 for that matter. Are the vampires I’m suggesting like the ones we read about in fictional literature or see in film? I have my doubts, far too romantic and many times ridiculously evil and religiously oriented. But are there vampires in the sense that beings existed or exist that rely on other humanoids for sustenance is not out of the realm of possibility.

They do exist, the supernatural vampyres are ( thats at least what i think) spiritual beings of some sort, I personally have gotten to meet energetic vampyres. I belive in Heaven, i belive in Hell, I belive in angels, I belive in demons, I belive in elves, i belive in vampyres. Everything that we see, dsn't nessesarly exist, and everyting that we don't see isn't a fable.



[s]And darkness shall cover the earth,
And gross darkness the people...[/s]

In my opinion, one way or another, it doesn't matter whether or not they exist. Because, like everything else, no matter how complex or indefferent, they would have to mainain balance, the same as everything else in existence, or in the plane of existence. But, it is my thought, that people who believe in vampyres, or vampires, nosferatu, etc. Are just like people who believe in one god, or many gods, or any of the present and past religions. Just as Soulfire said.

The thing is, that a religion, or belief, no matter what it really is, is something that gives people who believe in them, common ground. This then basically gives people of similiar religions or beliefs a connection to one another, and who is to say that the same cannot be said about vampires? That people who love vampires, believe in them, or enjoy things related to them, etc. cannot be connected through this common thought, idea, or belief, as any religion or clique would be for their likes, or beliefs?

So despite their possible existence, is it wrong to believe in them and share a common ground? I should say not.
From my personal opinion, I don't stand on a yes or no, I believe it certainly is possible, but I do not deny the fact that it may not be either.

Has anyone here ever seen what they think is a vampire. If so, lets hear the gossip!

It also depends on what you think a vampire is.

I don't think they turn into bats or wolfs or sleep in a coffin. I have some of the romantic veiws of them that seem to be mainstream. But then again that is wishful thinking on my part.

If they are more ferral like animals, they would have more of a "fast twitch" ability than us witch would make it look as if they were super fast and super strong. We are weak for those kind of things because we have evolved into animals for working 10 hour shifts of repeatitious motion type of work. That is how we lost our ability to run fast and jump so high. Holywood has exagerated it, but just think of what a wild animal our size could do. We can't out run a dog half our size.

Or they could be like "angels" and WAY more powerful than we could ever imagine. My scientific way of thinking says they are animals like us just more ferral, but my wiew of how religion works and my belief that every living thing creates a living god in their image would make it possible that they could be something so much more than mortals.

If they are as loving and seductive (and horny) and as powerful as the romantic mainstream vision of them, then I REALY want to meet a female (on good terms, of course!!!).

I'm not sure about the vampire’s betrayed in the movies, but in the case of people who drink blood and/or see as a fetish, then yes. Countess Erzebet Bathory (the blood countess) and Vlad the Impaler were perfect examples of true Vampires in my opinion.

~S. Agnostic~

people like Fritz Haarmann and Elizabeth Bathory were called vampires.. people could've made stories on "vampires" like them and through the years just changed the stories to powerful dead beings that could only be defeated by certain things to sell books.By the by, Frtiz Haarmann's story is really awesome you should look him up.

I would really really like them to but I don't think they do not in the Dracula sense anyway!

reality is relitivistic. if i believe whole heartedly that i am a vampire would it really matter if i wasn't could you really prove me wrong? i mean this isn't a matter of genetics or spirituality. it's all a mentality issue. as to the supernatural powers, the same thing goes. if i cann immagen it and believe my immangenings are real than it wouldn't matter if i was as wrong as could be. time life and all of reality is relativistic. only the mind can grant you power.

About the existence of vampires, haven't you heard about the Aset Ka?

They guard a bloodline of ancient vampires that trace their origins back to the Egyptian empire. I can't be sure if they are the primordial vampires, the genesis of all vampirism, but if not they sure are close to that. People call them "the Asetians", but most of their inner mysteries are kept secret for thousands of years inside the Kemetic Order of Aset Ka, living in secret and dwelling inside their society of shadows. A true mystery, but one of the most fascinating subjects inside the vampire theme.

Winged Angel

It would depend upon your definition of the term 'vampyre'. If you are referring to people who drink blood as a source of pleasure and/or nourishment... then certainly!... vampyres exist!
You are right that kind of vampyre is real but the other one, it hard to say something like that is real but if it was (that would be so cool) it would be a sad life. think of it, living for ever, outcast, scared you would lose control and hurt a friend, living for ever as you see all the people you care for die, one night you will wake up and see that you best friend in the word lived so long ago that people don't even speak her language anymore or to have to move from you home ever few years so no one know what you are, or reliving the same age over and ever again. Knowing all and life will become bored.

Forever to live alone, to know you could lose control and kill some one you love or care for, it would be a hard life.
Yet in the end i love to become on or live with one.

Vampirism is real. Hemophilia, is it called?
It simply means the person has an intense desire to drink blood.

I don't, however, believe in vampires as you see them in most literature and movies.
The one's with supernatural powers, and odd weaknesses. I simply don't believe in such things.

On this question i am half and half. No i dont believe that vampires exist, but i do believe this: there is a bed time story that perents in asia tell there bad kids so that they will behave. I tells of these groop of people that were beried alive in a cave . Years later they went looking for them but there bodies wernt there. There is a folk tell that some how there still alive. i dont know if its true or not but i believe it. i believe that the so called "vampires" are just people that some how lost a inner part of them selves and is trying to find it. The whole blood drinking came from when there wasent enough food, they would eat and drink any thing that they could get and blood is very addicting. everytime i cut myself or peal a scab, i drink the warm blood flowing from it. Also if you didnt have a bath or ate a decient meal in years you would look dead and hallow too. I dont know what yall think but alas that i wat i believe.

There many things in the spirit world we do not understand as a people. There are those who have a deeper understand than others, that does not make them any better....just more in tune with it (the spirit world).
By spirit world I mean supernatural as well.

People will believe what they want to believe. It has been that way since the beginning of time itself. For one to say that vampyres do not exist is a bit close minded. People all over the world believe in God, yet they have not seen him or her or it. There is proof in the form of conviction in their own minds. Nobody can take that away from them. Nor should they.

I personally believe that vampyres do exist ... I also believe that there are living vampyres who drink blood and take in energy through various sources, these too are termed vampiric in modern language.

Somebody in an earlier post said that "it is not as if they are going to make their presence know".
I agree why would they?

Typical people are afraid of what they cannot explain or understand. Here is just another example

Hemophilia is not vampirism, nor do hemophiliacs desire or need to drink blood. Hemophilia is a disorder wherein a persons blood does not clot properly and if wounded a person can actually bleed out and die. Even a simple paper cut can be deadly if not treated because the wound will not stop bleeding. Hemophiliacs will often lose a lot of blood and need multiple blood transfusions throughout their lives but this does not in any way make them vampires, in any sense of the word.

Hemophillia

Cult, there IS a disease that causes a lack of a mineral in the blood, for which a doctor will prescribe SMALL ammounts of healthy blood monthy, but it's extremely rare.
Some hasten to call it vampirism because of the blood drinking, but if that's the case, anyone with a sun, silver or garlic allergy could also be classified as a vampire. (An excess buildup of blood in your eyes can also cause you to "cry" blood as well. BUT it turns the whites of your eyes red, and gives a rather odd apearance.)

The definition of "vampire" or "vampyre" is vague when you're trying to decide wether they exist or not. There's of course the famous vampire of lore who sleeps in his grave, feasts upon the living, cannot step foot upon hallowed ground, writhes at the touch of anything holy or blessed and bursts into fire in the sunlight, amongst other symptoms. There is also the idea I mentioned a minute ago about a person with a specific allergy or disease. Then of course, there's the kind of vampire represented by the beloved Lady CG (Aside from the whole "I'm a proud vampire" thing, she's quite similar to an aunt of mine...) and Don Henrie. These creatures feed instead upon pure energy that flows in the blood of the "mundanes" or regular human beings and that can be found in any living thing (though it can still be taken in through blood, it's just a more crude way of acquiring it).

Personally, I believe in the last of these which I mentioned. To me, it seems more possible and fits closer to the idea of the "real" vampire.