Rhuen
Apr 22 2004, 01:28 PM
this thread is for those people who have a question or questions about something supernatural and they are not certain which thread it would belong. so rather than open up a new thread which may not last long and/or only get a few replies, I offer this thread as a place for any questions you may have.
DeathscytheH02
Apr 23 2004, 06:01 PM
Smart...
Oh, and question for ya: Out of all the myth/tales/notes scribbled on old toilet paper/etcetera stuff you've been scanning, Mr. Rhuen, are there any accounts which claim that ghosts are in fact a form of life, as opposed to being a spiritual reincarnation of dead peeps?
Just a matter of possible copyright theft...
Rhuen
Apr 23 2004, 09:32 PM
In chinese and other oriental beliefs sometimes a ghost may be a demon or spiritual creature creating an illussion to portray some one who has died, in fact poltergeist activity in ancient china was attributed to huli Jing (fox spirits),
in much of Europe these same phenomenons could be house hold little people like Bogles or other regional names for some mischevoiuse being,
however as for "ghosts" themselves, other than some creature/demon portraying them these are often seen as departed souls "or part of the spirit such as a Ka in egyption belief" in fact most held that ghosts were a discarded part of the spirit that tied the eternal soul to life along with the body.
so in short, yes: if it some etheral being either being mistaken for a ghost or pretending to be a ghost.
no: ghosts as the common concept are not usually alive in any real sense "in other words no departed spirit can reproduce and create more ghosts this way"
DeathscytheH02
Apr 24 2004, 05:56 PM
Right...thanks for the heads-up.
Divine Sin
May 8 2004, 04:06 PM
Can werewolves have puppies?
Shadout
May 8 2004, 05:34 PM
Doesn't it all seem just a little far-fetched sometimes?
Rhuen
May 8 2004, 09:40 PM
can werewolves have puppies? was the question and the answear is it depends on the version, those that are enchanted such as the magic ointments and belts, no they are human, however the werewolves of India and much of the far east are permenently wolves or shapeshifters between human and wolf and inherit this power from their parents so in a sense yes, and the type that stays a wolf after only once changeing from human to wolf have wolf cubs "these are said to have incredible intellegence and human life spans.
James2183
Jun 10 2004, 09:47 AM
Hey hey, first post here!
I am writing a script at the moment and I need some information on mythological creatures and urban legends etc.
Is there any particular book which could cover this criteria?
Rhuen
Jun 10 2004, 12:47 PM
for mythology there are numerouse books that vary for the group you are looking for. as for Urban legends.
depends do you want just any urban legends in general "in which case the book "Urban Legends" might work "I think thats the title, there is a picture of a giant baby crawling through a city on the cover"
but specific thing I am not certain, I would go to
http://www.amazon.comand enter into the search any specific mythological creature to find books on it or a spacific urban legend like "the jersey devil" or "wild haggis" or what not.
also if you look around "other-kin" includeing the older pages "which are not visible right away unless you change the box that says "last 30 days" to "from the beginning" there are numerouse threads that cover many demons and monsters from all around the world, I call these the regional threads as they focuse on different regions like the United Kingdom, demons of Japan, Asian myths, ect...
Liod
Jun 10 2004, 01:36 PM
QUOTE (DeathscytheH02 @ Apr 23 2004, 11:01 PM)
Smart...
Oh, and question for ya: Out of all the myth/tales/notes scribbled on old toilet paper/etcetera stuff you've been scanning, Mr. Rhuen, are there any accounts which claim that ghosts are in fact a form of life, as opposed to being a spiritual reincarnation of dead peeps?
This one is long, but since you asked about ghosts being a lifeform of their own...this article will offer a different view on it.
Creation Of A GhostIn the 1970s, a psychical research group invented a spirit named Philip. To their astonishment, Philip actually made contact with them through a host of incredible psychokinetic phenomena. A group of teenagers gathered around a Ouija board receives mysterious messages from a person's spirit who claims to have died 40 years ago. A paranormal society conducts a séance where they contact a ghost that communicates though table rappings. The residents of a century-old home continually see the spirit of a young child playing in the hallway.
What are these manifestations? Are they truly the ghosts of departed people? Or are they creations of the minds of the people who see them? Many researchers of the paranormal suspect that ghostly manifestations and poltergeist phenomena (objects flying through the air, unexplained footsteps and door slammings) are products of the human mind. To test that idea, a fascinating experiment was conducted in the early 1970s by the Toronto Society for Psychical Research (TSPR) to see if they could create a ghost. The idea was to assemble a group of people who would make up a completely fictional character and then, through séances, see if they could contact him and receive messages and other physical phenomena - perhaps even an apparition.
The results of the experiment - which were fully documented on film and audiotape - are astonishing.
The Birth of PhilipThe TSPR, under the guidance of Dr. A.R.G. Owen, assembled a group of eight people culled from its membership, none of whom claimed to have any psychic gifts. The group, which became known as the Owen group, consisted of Dr. Owen's wife, a woman who was the former chairperson of MENSA (an organization for high-IQ people), an industrial designer, an accountant, a housewife, a bookkeeper and a sociology student. A psychologist named Dr. Joel Whitton also attended many of the group's sessions as an observer. The group's first task was to create their fictional historical character. Together they wrote a short biography of the person they named Philip Aylesford. Here, in part, is that biography:
Philip was an aristocratic Englishman, living in the middle 1600s at the time of Oliver Cromwell. He had been a supporter of the King, and was a Catholic. He was married to a beautiful but cold and frigid wife, Dorothea, the daughter of a neighboring nobleman.
One day when out riding on the boundaries of his estates Philip came across a gypsy encampment and saw there a beautiful dark-eyed raven-haired gypsy girl, Margo, and fell instantly in love with her. He brought her back secretly to live in the gatehouse, near the stables of Diddington Manor - his family home. For some time he kept his love-nest secret, but eventually Dorothea, realizing he was keeping someone else there, found Margo, and accused her of witchcraft and stealing her husband. Philip was too scared of losing his reputation and his possessions to protest at the trial of Margo, and she was convicted of witchcraft and burned at the stake.
Philip was subsequently stricken with remorse that he had not tried to defend Margo and used to pace the battlements of Diddington in despair. Finally, one morning his body was found at the bottom of the battlements, whence he had cast himself in a fit of agony and remorse.
The Owen group even enlisted the artistic talents of one of its members to sketch a portrait of Philip . With their creation's life and appearance now firmly established in their minds, the group began the second phase of the experiment: contact.
The Séances Begin In September 1972, the group began their ;sittings- informal gatherings in which they would discuss Philip and his life, meditate on him and try to visualize their collective hallucination in more detail. These sittings, conducted in a fully lit room, went on for about a year with no results. Some members of the group occasionally claimed they felt a presence in the room, but there was no result they could consider any kind of communication from Philip. So they changed their tactics. The group decided they might have better luck if they attempted to duplicate the atmosphere of a classic spiritualist séance. They dimmed the room's lights, sat around a table, sang songs and surrounded themselves with pictures of the type of castle they imagined Philip would have lived in, as well as objects from that time period.
It worked. During one evening's séance, the group received its first communication from Philip in the form of a distinct rap on the table. Soon Philip was answering questions asked by the group - one rap for yes, two for no. They knew it was Philip because, well, they asked him. The sessions took off from there, producing a range of phenomena that could not be explained scientifically. Through the table-rapping communication, the group was able to learn finer details about Philip's life. He even seemed to exhibit a personality, conveying his likes and dislikes, and his strong views on various subjects, made plain by the enthusiasm or hesitancy of his knockings. His spirit was also able to move the table, sliding it from side to side despite the fact that the floor was covered with thick carpeting. At times it would even dance on one leg.
Rhuen
Jun 10 2004, 09:14 PM
clearwitch I have read over this and meditated on it for awhile and have concluded
1. I wish you had put this in the spirts and ghosts thread "or better yet" please repeat this there, I have copyed many things from this question thread over to specific threads that fit. :lol:
as for the topic.
1. they may have created a mind linked colective creation, basically their linked minds acting as unique being "like how our many individual nural brain cells act as a single being even though they are in fact individual organisms, only on a higher level
or
2. they caught the attention of an etherial being that likes to role play.
BlackxKitten
Aug 21 2004, 09:24 AM
I've been reading your posts to diffrent threads and I you do sound really smart. I was just wondering if there are websites you go to to get this information or what.
Rhuen
Aug 21 2004, 12:39 PM
I have gone to many websites trying to differentiate between usuable and un-usuable information, the largest usefull site was occultopedia.com but mostly my information comes from off line sources.
raven eyed beauty
Oct 12 2004, 05:53 PM
hi, i was hoping that you would know something of a demon by the name of dimex... i particularly need to know what the demon is capible of and how it effects a person.
if any of you know of this demon please email me at sulilfreak@aol.com (thats im as well)
blessed be
sara
Rhuen
Oct 14 2004, 12:01 PM
Dimic, This name is familier to me but not as an individual demon but a species of demon. A Nodric or Russian or some norther lands demon. They are mischivoius lesser demons capable of basic poltergeist activity up to makeing people sick. A basic binding spell, or cleansing of a household should be enough to get rid of one of these pests. I will continue to try and find something specific on its nature.
Harlock
Oct 14 2004, 04:39 PM
Hello i am a wiccan witch and need to know if there are any pages on which i can get free white spells.
thanx :punk:
Rhuen
Oct 18 2004, 01:36 PM
The spells thread was moved to the Arcane Studies section where magic and religions are discussed. the thread was called "Spells for the never ending tomarrow" or something like that. You could just use the search button in this forum to look for threads with the word spell or spells in the title. In that thread I mentioned most of the spells are in the last few pages from when it was moved into other-kin, but like I said its now in Arcane studies, there are other topics in there you might like also.
Silent Fool
Oct 26 2004, 10:18 PM
In a world of escapism and a rise of addictive behaviors, the idea that I am insane can be most likely the true answer for the following question. Fortunately, I am functionally insane, if insane I am, and I have learned to not share by problem with those who could adversely affect my current life. On to the question...
For as long as I can remember of this life, I have had memories of past lives, locations visited that I have never been, and words in languages I have never learned. I have an ease of acts that I have performed in a past life, only needing to teach the body what the mind already knows. I can remember the smells, sounds, and feelings as if they are my own.
When I was younger, I had the problem of not being able to differentiate which memories were of this time and which were of another. I have always been male, usually a warrior (not always a good one), but sometimes I have been a religious leader (usually a small town priest be it pagan or other). Today, after living with it more than two decades, I have learned to hone and use these ancient memories to my advantage, both in writing fiction and in warfare (I am currently in the US Military).
My questions is if this is a common occurance, if there are others that share this unique perspective to various lifetimes (not the glorious "I have been a prince in a past life-time" people), if there is some way to forget the deaths of each life I have experienced and save only the funtional, helpful memories. I also ask if there is any way to stop the nightmare of a hundred lifetimes?
The best answer would be that I am clinically insane and that I have just learned to funtion in society with my insanity. that there are medications that I can take to rid me of these "faux" memories. However, it would be nice to know that these memories have a purpose more than entertaining a handful of faithful readers on a blog site.
Rhuen
Oct 26 2004, 10:37 PM
real or not these memories appear to aid you in your life, so real past life memories, a creation of the mind or something else. What ever the case if they don't hinder your ever day life than don't worry about them and perhaps even be glad you have them, what ever their origen may be.
finding out how common an occurance this may be is difficult in most western nations as the belief in reincarnation is not a common one and can even be met by ridicule so most who have them may not speak about them or even deny knowing of their past lives.
Silent Fool
Oct 26 2004, 11:01 PM
Beneficial is a a matter of opinion. The cost-benefit ratio has yet to be determined. The skills I have learned and use are, of course, beneficial. It is the dark side of the memories that give me nightmares and raise concern.
I have researched much about reincarnation, both in modern-western belief systems and in estern and mid-eastern philosophies. But through the course of these inquiries, I have yet to read of someone who has memories of all past lives back to the shadowy memories before we, as humans, started to delinate between then and now (but even those memories are a cacophony of lights and sounds reminiscent of my friend's description of a bad acid trip).
I drift across the internet from alternative website to alternative website (it is amazing how much fringe world exist in the electronic world) but I have yet to find any with this blessing (curse?). I hope and , as always, send out feelers that someone might have similar experience: At least I seek for a way to dampen the memories that awaken cold sweats in the middle of the night.
Please do not suggest therapy. As you can see, even if this is real instead of a mad mixture of un-balanced chemicals in the mind, I mention one word to a school trained mind patcher and I will be given a new wardrobe consisting of white jackets with backward sleeves. If it weren't for the vividness of the memories, I would not be so concerned. It is horror waking to the sound of war axes cleaving or the smell of bonefires.
I have read a lot of entries here and must say that many answers to questions ring true with my memories of the old ways. There is also a unique mixture of many different, and at the the time they existed, conflicting practices. It is refreshing to see that spirits are still seen, demons and angels still feared, and a continuity of the lessons I learned at the feet of centuries-dead relatives.
Rhuen
Oct 28 2004, 09:03 PM
I personally have experienced dreams that could be seen as memories of past lives, of horrific things I have seen and done. But just as many great things. Such as love and raising many families, and losing them too.
In one very vivid "vision" I killed a priest for trying my daughter for witchcraft and executing her while I was away defending his own church "I had this dream when I was eight before I knew about witch burnings and the crusades "Every time I see a catholic priest I have to remind my self it was a dream and that man I see before didn't do the thing in my dream, even as I write this I become emotionally charged as it was very vivid.
But I don't let these things interfer with my daily life. Although it is best to get them off your chest.
I would suggest writing down your memories in a journal as they come to you and only letting your self or a very trusted person see them.
Remember what is in the past is in the past, you can't let past sins from a different life determine your fate in this life. If you can remember them than maybe there is a good reason why, perhaps your soul doesn't want to repeat past tragedies, the reason is for you to find however, no one can guide you but you, so listen to your true self and and hear what it has to say, only than can you learn what it is trying to tell you with these memories.
Silent Fool
Oct 29 2004, 12:53 AM
I appreciate the words and understand the sentiment...
But you can't believe the Karma Debt.
Thanks for all the support. I already incorporate a lot of my memories into my writing and will hopefully work it into a new graphic novel of a Hero that, although plauged by visions of past lives, uses these visions to fight the "evils" of the world. I know it sounds cliche` but if you look at comics and graphic novels, it is the known that is conforting and most profitable.
Blessed be.....until.
burning2death
Nov 1 2004, 12:14 AM
i don't know what a seance is. i feel like a retard, but gods honor i don't know what it is. i've heard it alot and i figured i better learn.
Rhuen
Nov 2 2004, 12:15 AM
Glad to help. :icon12:
Rhuen
Nov 2 2004, 12:25 AM
QUOTE (burning2death @ Nov 1 2004, 12:14 AM)
i don't know what a seance is. i feel like a retard, but gods honor i don't know what it is. i've heard it alot and i figured i better learn.
I merged this to here as it belonged here as such a question can not hold a thread.
the answer: a seance is a ritual done with a small group and a medium " a person that can contact the spirit world" or any ritual that is done to contact the dead is called a seance.
Ghostworks_Ltd
Nov 3 2004, 12:28 AM
Just my two (dollars and fifty) cents worth.
QUOTE (Silent Fool @ Oct 26 2004, 11:18 PM)
For as long as I can remember of this life, I have had memories of past lives, locations visited that I have never been, and words in languages I have never learned. I have an ease of acts that I have performed in a past life, only needing to teach the body what the mind already knows. I can remember the smells, sounds, and feelings as if they are my own.
I share this. Maybe not as in depth as you might experience this, or even as in depth as others might think I experience this, but others would be surprised if I let on to the things I know without having been formally taught these skills or told most information. Indeed, most think me crazy if I merely hint at my memories, some think me a liar when I say I can do some odd, archaic task, and still more find me amazing (or just a novelty for a short time) when I prove that yes, I really do know these things and can peform these tasks. But even those I've told about some of the things I've seen eventually brush me off, thinking that I'm just a bit "off-the-wall" or "out there", but harmless for the most part.
I am sure if I were to go into detail of what I've seen, you might even think I'm insane and cross the street so you don't have to deal with me as one might do to the man in real life standing on the street corner loudly proclaiming the end of the world.
Thus....do not go into detail with anyone anymore.
I do not fear a new wardrobe given me by the men in white coats. I am good with Masks for the most part.
I do not fear the deaths I've experienced anymore (or my own in this world, which I surmise will be just as unpleasant as most of the others). I remember (almost) every one of them, and can only recall two that have been peaceful. The rest of them have been at the hands of warriors like yourself, but I harbor no resentment or fear of them anymore.
The only thing I fear in this life (or any other) is the fear others seem to have for me when they somehow get past the masks and disguises and trickery I use to keep everyone away from me.
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My questions is if this is a common occurance, if there are others that share this unique perspective to various lifetimes (not the glorious "I have been a prince in a past life-time" people), if there is some way to forget the deaths of each life I have experienced and save only the funtional, helpful memories. I also ask if there is any way to stop the nightmare of a hundred lifetimes?
Perhaps your problem lies with the fact that you want to forget these deaths when they should serve as a reminder, a neverending, etheric monument of the life you live now. In death, there is mystery and an uncertain beautiful darkness, and it should be recognized that, while gruesome in their ways (because what other way could a warrior die but gruesomely at the hands of an enemy), these deaths are transformations, not endings. Just the fact that you have these memories at all shows that only the body dies, not the soul. Why let the transitions haunt you when they should reassure you that ultimately you cannot be destroyed?
I know that is mostly a reassurance to a living person who fears future death of oneself. I do understand that you are haunted by not only your own deaths, but of those around you as well, past and present.
And no, as far as I've found, there is no way to stop the nightmares. Trying to make them stop only makes them worse in most cases. I've found the only thing that keeps me from dwelling on them for too long, the only thing that keeps me from being terrorized at night or during the day by them is to live this life as fully as I can, do what I can in this moment right now and commit everything beautiful I've experienced to my heart's memory while trying to forget the pain and wrongs at the same time in hopes that in the next lifetime, I won't be haunted so much by this lifetime as I will be enchanted by it.
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However, it would be nice to know that these memories have a purpose more than entertaining a handful of faithful readers on a blog site.
Maybe the only purpose of these lifetimes is to remind us that yes, we are all eternal and we are all entertwined across the fabric of Life and Death, but the most important moment we have ever lived in this world is right now.
Whenever "right now" happens to be.
But then we get into the philosophy and the meaning of life/existence in general, and I'm sure you were not looking to get into a philosophical discussion of this nature.
Rhuen
Nov 5 2004, 02:43 PM
thank you for helping, its much appreciated that someone else has taken the time to also answer a question. :icon12:
Avriel
Nov 13 2004, 12:03 PM
My question is do u have to be born a witch to be able to do the spells or is it a learned trait? I know peeps who are witches and do spells. Its interested me but Ive never asked them about it.
Rhuen
Nov 16 2004, 11:20 AM
simple answer "No". A witch is a person that practices witchcraft can be a wiccan, a pagan, even a christian its just a generic term like Sorcerer or Shaman. Although being raised one does give one an advantage in doing the spells correctly just like some one who learns another language at an earlier age can pick up on it better than one who tries to learn it later in life.
DarkQueenKarone
Nov 18 2004, 12:08 PM
Does anyone know anything at all about someone named the Harper of the Night? I need to know, I am in deperation for any information that any of you might know. It is important to me. Please if you have any information let me know. Thank you to all those who can give any information to me, it is so greatly appreciated. I am very lost on how to find any information on him, when I have checked just about every where possible. It is driving me insane.
Rhuen
Nov 18 2004, 05:00 PM
"Harper of the Night" Harper is a name not a title so that doesn't make any sense. sure you didn't mean Harbenger of the Night also a context as to what this is applying to might help.
p.s. given that this is a question and not likely to become an actual long lasting thread I will let it sit here until either tomarrow or monday so you can see thats its going to be moved so you won't wander where it vanished to, than move it to the Q&A thread where all questions like this belong.
Kitaro
Nov 23 2004, 09:25 AM
Are werewolves real?
Vex
Nov 23 2004, 09:56 AM
No.
Rhuen
Nov 23 2004, 03:33 PM
Their is a Q&A thread for short questions Like this, and I will be sending this there now. "sent later today or tomarrow so the person who asked has a chance to see it first before I send it to Q&A"
also while people once believed in werewolves and in some countries "or rather" parts of those countries still do, they are not the werewolves from the movies. The mythical werewolf was a human that using a magic ointment or skin would transform completly into a wolf with human cunning, supernatural strength and hunger and an insane urge to kill.
but the short answer is no, its not likely these actually exist.
if you want to know more about werewolves than change the option at the bottom of the main otherkin page that tells how far back to see the threads to from the begining and you will see a number of werewolf threads including one by Lazarus called Lycanthropes that lists werewolves from all over the earth.
alkadine_princess
Nov 24 2004, 12:19 PM
rhuen,
my name is cavala. you seem to know alot. i am looking for a vampire called simon. he came to me in a dream and i have to take the next step. any ideas on how a 17 year old girl with overprotective parents can find a vampire when she only knows his first name and what he looks like?
Rote Behaarte Nacht der Jäger
Nov 24 2004, 12:45 PM
I happen to know an otherkin friend of mine who is a werekin, but she is a big cat were. Most otherkin who are were cannot physically transform into the creatures they once were however, some claim to be able to physically transform within this plane. I have still yet to see their proof of such a claim. So technically they do, if you accept the whole otherkin belief or they don't if you are people who don't accept any of the belief. And to fully clarify myself, it is not possible at this given time to physically transform into a were of any sort.
Rhuen
Nov 25 2004, 11:14 PM
to: alkadine_princess
"searching for the man of your dreams most often leads one to find the fiend of their nightmares" : quote: "The Queen of Dreams"
Not to sound harsh but most likely it was a mere figmant of your imagination that you saw in your dreams. and to be honest the types of beings that can travel into dreams take on a form guided by the mind of the dreamer "most dreams creatures look like purple coccoons, tear drops, or worms. If this was a sentient being than it would visit you in your dreams only and you should leave it as that and try to live a normal social life on the wakeing side of reality.
as for searching for "vampires" in real life, but sorry every one you find would either be someone using the vampire/goth thing to take advantage of young trusting people.
In reality the vampire "or rather according to mythology as being the actual source" the vampire is nothing like what we see in the movies it is a horrible, ugly, slow moving, blood sucking fiend. It drinks blood as a means to drain the soul, it's heart is as cold as the night air "no internal thermals".
Basically if you go looking for a vampire while you may find some life styler or goth of sorts you could also come across a horrible lecher or some one worse.
and if by some improsbable chance you do manage to find a supernatural creature that resembles the vampires of the movies and books "than its not a vampire" you would most certainly be destroyed by it.
So like I quoted above and said, its best not to search out what you see in your dreams on this side of reality it can only lead in heartbreak and sorrow. Sorry.
SolusCor
Nov 26 2004, 01:46 PM
Hello...seek him and if he wants you he will find you...an if you are to die by him.. he will kill you anyway...you must trust yourself.
alkadine_princess
Nov 27 2004, 01:05 AM
thank you for your advice.
Rhuen
Nov 29 2004, 02:41 PM
Your Welcome. :icon12:
Cernnunos
Dec 29 2004, 01:26 AM
There is always the presence of the Werewolf but are all the lycans canines?
Wolfs are common but are there any wereCats out there?
Is the werenation greater that we all think?
Rhuen
Dec 29 2004, 04:23 PM
This should have been placed in the Q.A. thread.
Also simply reading around would have answered that question in the many shapeshifter threads about this area.
so the answer is yes, every culture has shapeshifters and "werebeasts" mostly predator animals but others exist in the stories of many cultures.
as any further discussion would be redundant as it exists in other threads this is now merged with the QA thread.
AuroraRayven
Jan 4 2005, 12:30 AM
ok i am wiccan and i have done a protection spell on my and my surroundings. i have had a lot of supernatural shit happen to me that i really need the protection. well lately no moatter what i have done it aint working... latley i have had soemthing follow me and mess alot of shit up. and i just cant seem to get it to go away. any help on what i should do??
Thanks Aurora
Rhuen
Jan 5 2005, 02:48 PM
Negate all the protection spells you did, it seems that something is feeding off of them from what I can tell. You seem to have gotten a spiritual parasite. You will need to undo the protection spells and set up new ones "kind of like a total system reboot for a computer thats too infected with viruses to save."
on this analogy a protection spell works alot like a firewall does in the computer, now if a virus gets through than putting up more firewalls won't work, you need to either purge the virus or reboot.
in magic "rebooting" aka undoing the spells is easier than purging them.
keldor
Jan 8 2005, 10:35 PM
hi i was wondering if you could tell me anything about a bogie man type
called jack halloween or jack pumkinhead. i know he appers in wizard of oz books and in nightmare before x-mas, but ive read breif passeges in books and on the web about him being a celtic bogie, but other than a name or discription on his lookes(stikly lokkn scarecrow feller with a jackolanterne for a head) theres nothing else. thanx
Rhuen
Jan 9 2005, 12:41 AM
The Jack o Lantern is a creation of the English people in the attempt to adapt the holiday from its pagan form to a christian "fun" form.
the original form of the pumpkin for this holiday was to either have runes carved into it or scary faces in order to ward off evil spirits.
The pumpkin head is a fictional character that has been adopted by may.
As for an actual Bogie useing this form, it wouldn't be a surprise as the form can be scary, however being that the Bogie and the original form of the Jack-O-Lantern both come from the same nation this would mean that either they don't work to ward them off, no longer work, or the bogie is mocking the very symbol of the ward against it.
But I have never heard of any particular individual bogie that does this.
keldor
Jan 9 2005, 01:27 AM
yea theres not much about him out ther. i will keep loking for him any way.
he utterly fastenates me. any way this is a cool thred and thanks.
Rhuen
Jan 10 2005, 09:43 PM
If you find anything on him feel free to place him in the appropriate thread based on where you find him "probably the thread for the monsters of the U.K." a link to it is in the regional thread index.
Fluid of life
Jan 24 2005, 09:21 PM
Humans are sentient beings and have souls. there are a lot of stories about the destination of these souls post death. Like heaven/hell, ghost life and karma. Vamps and weres as well as others are sentient also. What is the condition of and destiny of these souls if indeed they have them. Now if they don't what happened after the conversion to vamp or were.
fol the fool
Rhuen
Jan 24 2005, 11:51 PM
I the middle ages the werewolf was a normal human who by the use of magic turned into a wolf. These people were thought to have made a deal with the devil and thus go to hell. But if they did/do this as part of their own relegeous belief than they should be bound by their own beliefs in this practice as to where they are destined to go after death.
As for a vampire, in mythology their are two kinds of Vampires. "ghosts" "corpses"
The corpse was a souless husk that only fed in order to kill or sicken the living " walking plague" So the soul has already moved on so the destruction of this mindless husk is simply that. As for the ghost that depends on what you believe the ghost is "a remnent or the soul" The original vampire was just that "The Uttuku or Udug, Utuk..." was created by the gods as punishment for not burying the person properly so while that person's soul moved on their "ghost" became a blood drinking ghost monster.
Their are a wide variety of vampires around the world, most are corpses or ghosts. the few others are ugly monsters or humans using magic "evil" members of thos societies.
No one knows what happens to monsters after death. and the evil sorcerers are punished after death by the gods.
Than their is the one freak in this story. The Vrykolakas. In life this person used magic to become a werewolf "or other shapeshifter" and as punishment after death they would become a vampire. "thus the term Vrykolakas is used for both of them.