You an interesting thought just came to me.. I wonder if the criminals that are shown on shows like amaericas most wanted and all ..you know the ones that seem to vanish in thin air.. if they have become meal tickets for vampires? I mean there are so many out there that are never heard from again.. and you should only feed from the evildorers.
What do you think?

Well I would imagine a vampire would add such a person to the clan.
Evil is as evil does.

No i didn't mean make them a vampire ...i mean i wonder if they'd search them out in particular to kill them..

It just depends on the vampires taste in blood and the person.I maybe would do such a thing as that but most likely not.I just prefer doing stuff a little different from everyone else.

Darkvamp6791-Shelby

They would be victoms the world wouldn't miss and not be surprised when they didn\'t resurface. Good cover.

Why should you only feed from evildoers..?

Because if they are not missed you chances of being revealed are less. Machevelli said in The Prince, that you shouldn't imprision your enemies where they will be on their families minds. But slay them so their assets will be distributed to heirs and they will go on woth their lives. Feed of someone with contact to loved ones or work/school mates and someone may noticed. Feed on people trying to not be found and who knows?

Evildoers can be loved too, and most often are. The worst mass murerers often have a loving family around them. If you want to feed on people who won't be missed, go for hobos and teenage runaways. Nobody looks for them.

I would go for the innocent people myself but hey it's obviously up to you.

Darkvamp6791-Shelby

dont kil the evildoers, tourture them, its more fun.
then when they give up on life then u kill them.

Well speaking for the evil dowers as I am one.
Why would a vamp of the dammed want to hurt something so similar to it’s nature.
How useful would the unity of organized crime and organized undead, you will see a rather corrupt world where thousands disappear everyday greed n wait a minute thousands do disappear and the world is corrupt.
I am evil and I used to organize crimes …… damn all I need is a vamp without a soul or as with one as dark as mine ….. any takers ???

It also cuts down the competition. The concept of honor amoung thieves is promoted by the thieves who prey upon the newer thieves. That being evil protects you from other evil people is a way of becoming a victom.

I can sure you there is no honor among thieves, that romantic thought was TV based propaganda.

The order is kept by the power you show and how connected you are, and consequences if caught grassing or undercutting.

I'm game lavisbre.Anytime ya need a dark friend,I'm here...usually...OK...sometimes.LOL.I think that all evildoers should gang up and fight the good bitchs.Who agrees?

Darkvamp6791-Shelby

Yes I think a united front of all evil is needed to darken the days, and bring goodness to the alter of life to be drained by evil vamps and dark witches. Dame can you imagine if a witch was turned vamp …………

I'll join your budding empire of evil, Lavisbre....sounds like a laugh.

And yeah, there aint any honour among thieves, but that shits overrated when compared to pullin' a blag and doin' the things that bad-asses do.

When it comes down to it you've gotta look out for yourself, 'cause in any criminal enterprise your 'best mate' is gonna cover his own ass before looking out for yours.

Oh, and grasses can expect to lose their genitals (male OR female) Lol!

Anyway, I read a statistic the other day that said that only 14% of people reported missing are ever found again. (This was for the U.K only)

And these are just ordinary people and not your 'on the run' criminal type.

Actually, it would be statistically more likely for just regular missing persons (children and adults) to be vampire food than the criminals on AMW. Consider the proportions of missing people to missing criminals; the people who have committed no crime except vanishing from their lives way outnumber the criminals on the run. So many people vanish each year that it would probably be impossible for vampires to be feeding on criminals only.

It's far more likely that missing children and teen runaways are food for vampires, if you think about the sheer numbers involved.

As for the empire of evil, wouldn't a truly evil being disdain any club that would have him/her for a member? (wicked grin)

I'd have to agree with the points Lili's made. Although, it would sound fun to track criminals and then prey upon them... watch it become a movie or a video game... you just watch.

This might have already been mentioned, but I think someone has been reading to much about Lestat.

Throne777

Yeh people don’t realize how many do go missing, the police sure keep it covered up.
Until they find one like the bc pig farmer who fed the bodies to the pigs. And you realize if this one guy killed for as long as he did, and the 22 bodies found on the outside of Edmonton in a field …. Edmonton is the closest town to me. I thought moving from London and the trouble was a good thing … just to find out it’s everywhere.

You are assuming here that all vampires or vampire like creatures are evil. You even make notes later in your posts about needing a "vampire without a soul". which of course just gave me instant flashes to 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer'...

Do you not believe that Vampires (or the like) come in as varied personalities as humans?




Are you refering to Robert Pickton who murdered dozens of prostitues since the 70's in BC Canada?

Hearing begins for accused B.C. serial killer (one pf many articles on him)

This man selected people who he thought weren't going to be missed. He miscalcualted the love of one family though.

This makes for a good study for those who study them and thie behavoir: (Although I don't think they are finished indexing everything yet)

Database of Serial Killers.:

www.crimezzz.net/serialkiller_index

if they where the worlds greatist killer even for a everyday vamp would stay away from them but a super vamp (stronger faster better breed) may use the criminal to add to the security of a vamp nest

Hi Sanctuary
Well this would be a rather deep topic if we let it. Ie evil is in mans mind and everyone have different levels of what we deem as evil .. example a lion eating a rather cute deer is nature or evil if that was your pet.lol
So basically I believe all true vamp stories are of evil vamps. However im aware of the many factions of what people consider to be vamp. For sake of argument im talking of the murdering type considered evil. Which is why I mentioned one with out a soul as much as I love angel n what not I also think the ramifications on culture is very apparent and the true nature of a vamp is being lost to romantic ideas.

And yeh that guy in bc… and the ones around the closest town to me … 22 dead in surrounding area …… point being im in sleepy villa next to the rocky mountains … that’s a lot of killing not reported.

*Waves hello to lavisbre*

Agreed in could be very deep... we'd have to explore the nature of evil itself which as you've eloquently pointed out can be very tricky to determine based on our own personal value systems.

Following you now on your thoughts of 'evil' and it makes perfect sense and a great annaology about the lion btw! So lets stick to that idea of evil for now as I think everyone can all related well to it. :)

I have to agree with you that our cultures tends to take the romantic sides of the classical vampire and over look their basic nature... within that basic nature survial would be at the top of the list. I think most forget that.

Being in such an isolated area... I think it's easier to hide the evidence but harder to find someone to feed from?

But very strange that so many aren't being reported.



For you above post that I meant to post to the other day:

Adding Criminals to the clan and wanted men would poss the risk of exposure yes?

Feeding from them I could easily see as they're in hiding.

Well coming from what one shall call an underground collective for now. ( ran with the wrong crowd n got to the top of the pile) smuggerling is a hand-me-down tradition from my home town in the southwest of England … the pirates who made England like Drake n so forth is in our blood. And the secret family caves n passageways that travel in land to our family homes and further into the moors to now make shift airports. Not to mention the tunnels used in the wars to arm the dockyards and so forth still in use to day for any cargo. If you want to disappear it’s very easy and I think it would compliment a vampire to have such connections. as for feeding there are ladies of the night who are owned and would be a great supply. and an endless army of wan bees gangster thugs football hooligans…… Question is what could a vampire bring to the table?
Only benefit I see is a prolonged life to keep your empire.

The reason you don't hear about them again is that they're either caught or not caught. There's nothing else to tell if they're not caught. What do you want them to do, run an update that has nothing in it? It's only logical.

Not all of the ones that are caught are featured again. Many of them are simply caught, brought to justice, and serve time. AMW and related shows don't feel the need to update you on every single person who is caught. They more or less only run an update on the ones that were caught because of the show. If it wasn't because of the show that they were caught, AMW doesn't toot it's own horn for no reason.

Sorry yall..internet was down for a while..but a small comment to this... yes I do in fact read a lot on Lestat..as a matter of fact I am in the Tale of the body theif as we speak... what i am refering to is a good point he makes in the book..If in being a vampire you hold onto a small thread of caring for mortals.. than you would in fact only want to kill ones who have done wrong.. therefore eliminating guilt.. i mean really who wants that guilt for eternity...... "The Brat Prince"

Mmmh. So instead of feeling guilty because you're a mass murderer and bloodsucking parasite, you feel gratified because you only play God and decide who's bad enough to die?

That is the real problem I have with the "only kill evildoers" thing. Really it's just as bad, killing the guilty or the innocent is still playing God and to pretend otherwise is ethical pattycake.

I don't doubt that if there were such a creature as a vampire that retained human psychological processes that it would be very likely for them to rationalize their behavior by claiming to kill only evildoers. But after a while of killing, the vampire's definition of "evildoer" might become so fluid as to be useless.

I still think it is far more likely for vanished children or just plain missing-people to be vampire victims rather than escaped criminals, just because of the sheer statistical numbers involved. :) But then, I'm stubborn.

Nothing wrong with being a mass murderer …. Someone has too … lol