scared possessed boy
Feb 4 2003, 12:06 AM
ok, is it just me or are movies about vampires just perfetic,
i mean they have no idea what a vamp really is and to top it off they call us things like blood sucking vermen and animals....
well i definantly aint no bloody animal, i dont go out and kill everyone for fun,although there are some i would like to get hold of, but the point is i know this is just entertainment but couldnt they get it a bit more right i mean come on flying across city's killing three or four people every night and if any one would be conssided a animal it would be those f'ckn vampire hunters what the hell is up with those fag's?............................
Vilinastor
Feb 4 2003, 12:51 AM
You don't like being called an animal, but whats up with calling people Fags? Something agianst homosexaul people? Looks like racism is everywhere.
scared possessed boy
Feb 4 2003, 01:11 AM
;) i didnt mean "fags" as in homersexuals, just my way in saying what i felt maybe i should have said "dickheads" or "idiots" hows that sound?
better i hope, the fact is why cant they make a movie about us real vamps not the crap they make about us theses days....
and they call us "mythical creatures" also i didnt put that in there before all this shits me major......
Vilinastor
Feb 4 2003, 01:17 AM
Yes I know what you ment, but when you start up a topic like this you should chose your words a little more carefully.
As for my view on the subject I believe we are all animals. As part of the human race as a whole I would throw us all in that blood thirsty pot. I have not met a person in my life who was not capable of being an animal. Also if vampires were portrayed as lovable, huggable, hello may I bit your neck creatures, they would make no money. Voilence sells.
scared possessed boy
Feb 4 2003, 01:42 AM
well maybe we can be animals at times and yes violence does deffinantly sell, hell i love violence, but we still dont just kill anyone we cross its just bull shit. and you can still have violence in the movies but why do we have to kill every one, why dont they look at the real f'ckn vamp for fuck sake.
Damious
Feb 4 2003, 02:27 AM
Cause their movies....
Their not real....
The vamps in them aren't real...
The vamps in them aren't realistic...
Your not like that so you say, so why care ?
scared possessed boy
Feb 4 2003, 04:13 AM
;) look dont get me wrong i still watch them it would just be nice to see a movie more realistic so that people might understand more about vampires instead of the shit that they talk about...
your right though why care? i guess that they are just movies and i guess i know and live the truth so it dosnt matter..............
Oubliette
Feb 4 2003, 05:11 AM
A film about "real Vampires" as you call them would be extremly dull. As you say, you are really no different from Humans except for the blood lust and the odd quirks. It would be very boring and no one who is a Vampire fan would be particuarly interested.
I find it strange that you care. Why should it worry you? Have your species not been degragated for centuries and now you are suddenly upset?
You are an animal, humans are animals aswell....it's just that for some reason Humans do not consider themselves predatory (lol) and you they do.
Remain fiction. Remain a mystery. It is easier that way.
scared possessed boy
Feb 4 2003, 05:47 AM
ok i will say it one more time, i only care because of what they mean by animal they make us to be monsters some sort of derranged creatures who only purpose in life is to go around at night and feed and kill everyone in our sights i cant speek for every vamp out there but what a load of "shit'
and the movies can still be entertaining vamps can still kill people and still have all the amazing powers that we all wish we had, but they dont have to say the things that they say which are crap.the only movie where we are not betrayed as these weird creatures is "queen of the damned" and maybe "interview with a vampire" which were both exellant but didnt take it to far and where both emenslly entertaining..............
Myth
Feb 4 2003, 06:16 AM
remeber if you are difrent you are a freek. and in the movies vamps hunt humans and thats wrong. and the normal ppl normaly fear what they dont understand so to them a vamp is a monster and a freek.
the first romantic wamier in history was the story by bram stocker.
vamps of myth are noting to idolise they are monsters ho kill. they are soulles monsters
some movis are not that wrong when it comes to the defonison a human will put on a vamp.
scared possessed boy
Feb 4 2003, 06:20 AM
;) true
Olivia Cainin
Feb 4 2003, 08:07 AM
You are putting to much into a name. The name vampire will always be associated with such images. I do not see why this bothers you ... you are not such an animal ... so why see the association.
Perhaps because in some ways ... the association appeals to you. Personally ... I do not broadcast my nature to people ... most would not understand ... and those who do are few and far between.
I have no desire to have people categorize me. I use the term "vampire" as it most closely defines what I am. It is a beginning point for understanding. But I do not internalize the negative aspects of the word. You choose how you see yourself ... others opinions do not matter.
I get the feeling that many like to tell who and what they believe they are. That bit of information elicits a great ego booster for the person making the statement. It causes a reaction in others that holds a certain appeal ... the bad ass vampire. All mysterious, powerful and predatory.
In some respects many use the name and its associations as a way to feel better about themselves ... to boost their self image ... to elevate their standing among others. So ... if you embrace the name ... you get the good with the bad.
Anyway ... there are movies and books about serial killers ... do you see all humans in such a connotation. Popular culture often portrays groups and races of people in a disparaging manner ... do these portrayals make you see those people in a negative way? My point being ... popular culture portrays just that ... what is popular. Fiction is fiction ... and reality of reality.
As was said earlier ... a movie or a book about modern vampires ... would in the end have to be embellished ... For in reality ... we just really aren't all that interesting. Perhaps our greatest point of interest is our use of the word "vampire."
Myth
Feb 4 2003, 08:45 AM
modern fantasy books on the subjekt of vampiers are not in any way. true to the bases of the mythos of the vampiers.
so a lot of ppl hear have a featis fore drinking blood. vits in no way is realaited to vampierrisem.
and olivia is right lods of ppl whant to be a vamp to boost ther self-image.
Vilinastor
Feb 4 2003, 09:12 AM
Well here is a thought. Instead of complianing about it, why not go out an make your own movie about how you percieve vampires.
Myth
Feb 4 2003, 09:53 AM
thats a good ide
Seana
Feb 4 2003, 02:59 PM
Ah the romance of the "undead"... ^_^
Branimir
Feb 4 2003, 03:25 PM
Oubliete! Real Vampires aren`t so powerfull as in the movies, but they aren`t much weaker ether!
You said that a real vampire movie would be dull! Yeah it would, if they put some unexpirienced vampires who only know how to show their teeth! But not all Vampires are human allike!
Take my friend Davor for an example! Man that guy is 2 m tall, and 95kg`s weight! But he is a real artist in moving, jumping, runing, hiting, fighting, even biting! He is much faster than I am, and I am fast! He could get behind your back without you even noticing him! Now that is what I call a real Vampire!
scared possessed boy
Feb 4 2003, 05:34 PM
;) after watching a movie and thinking about what points where made your right all of you, why care at all,
its not important and why should anyone no that some are different than others it dosnt matter and they wouldnt understand anyway...................... ^_^
Celeste de Claire
Feb 4 2003, 08:21 PM
QUOTE (scared possessed boy @ Feb 4 2003, 05:06 AM)
ok, is it just me or are movies about vampires just perfetic,
i mean they have no idea what a vamp really is and to top it off they call us things like blood sucking vermen and animals....
well i definantly aint no bloody animal, i dont go out and kill everyone for fun,although there are some i would like to get hold of, but the point is i know this is just entertainment but couldnt they get it a bit more right i mean come on flying across city's killing three or four people every night and if any one would be conssided a animal it would be those f'ckn vampire hunters what the hell is up with those fag's?............................

Yes I agree With you...
SKERPIOEN
Feb 4 2003, 08:23 PM
QUOTE (Vilinastor @ Feb 4 2003, 07:51 AM)
You don't like being called an animal, but whats up with calling people Fags? Something agianst homosexaul people? Looks like racism is everywhere.
What, you some kind of a faglover or something ?
Oh, and I guess blood and guts just sell more.
Look at other action movies, all the killing and violence. I mean yeah
there is a lot of killing going on -in real life, but not that much !
Celeste de Claire
Feb 4 2003, 09:22 PM
QUOTE (SKERPIOEN @ Feb 5 2003, 01:23 AM)
QUOTE (Vilinastor @ Feb 4 2003, 07:51 AM)
You don't like being called an animal, but whats up with calling people Fags? Something agianst homosexaul people? Looks like racism is everywhere.
What, you some kind of a faglover or something ?
Oh, and I guess blood and guts just sell more.
Look at other action movies, all the killing and violence. I mean yeah
there is a lot of killing going on -in real life, but not that much !
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Your cool!
Liod
Feb 5 2003, 06:16 AM
QUOTE (Branimir @ Feb 4 2003, 08:25 PM)
Oubliete! Real Vampires aren`t so powerfull as in the movies, but they aren`t much weaker ether!
You said that a real vampire movie would be dull! Yeah it would, if they put some unexpirienced vampires who only know how to show their teeth! But not all Vampires are human allike!
Take my friend Davor for an example! Man that guy is 2 m tall, and 95kg`s weight! But he is a real artist in moving, jumping, runing, hiting, fighting, even biting! He is much faster than I am, and I am fast! He could get behind your back without you even noticing him! Now that is what I call a real Vampire!
Uhm...yeah. So I guess you now have to be not only lightsensitive and blooddrinking, noty to mention a firm believer in reincarnation, but extra strong, fast, big and silent too? Sounds like the requirements has been raised, again...
Or are you just giving in to the idea of superhumans, created not only by popular fiction writers and Hollywood, but known from for instance Adolf Hitler..?
Branimir
Feb 5 2003, 04:11 PM
I see no point in arguing with you clearwitch! And "by the way" you got it all wrong! But anyway I am to tired of repeating myself!
It seems like you hold something against me! That`s OK with me, cuz I am not troubled with that!
Myth
Feb 6 2003, 05:54 AM
in myth real vamps hunt down ther famaly and kill them all. vampiers are in all mythos vangfull spiritst or deamons that thake over a corpse to reak havok on humans.
Liod
Feb 7 2003, 04:25 AM
QUOTE (Branimir @ Feb 5 2003, 09:11 PM)
I see no point in arguing with you clearwitch! And "by the way" you got it all wrong! But anyway I am to tired of repeating myself!
It seems like you hold something against me! That`s OK with me, cuz I am not troubled with that!
I've got nothing against you in particular, just the wish to be exclusive, and special, that you and so many others here desperatly tries to live out.
Liod
Feb 7 2003, 04:27 AM
QUOTE (Myth @ Feb 6 2003, 10:54 AM)
in myth real vamps hunt down ther famaly and kill them all. vampiers are in all mythos vangfull spiritst or deamons that thake over a corpse to reak havok on humans.
Good point, Myth... Seems this is a part of vampire mythos most classical 'vampires' here has completely forgotten...
Myth
Feb 7 2003, 08:07 AM
the classical 'vampires' are alwas forgoten. ho whants to be a monster hos only purpos is to kill. its not wery romanic is it.
Branimir
Feb 7 2003, 11:37 AM
Oooooo! That! O.K
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