I was just wondering In general how many vampires as such are in your area? I just want a general idea. Are we a dying breed and how can we sustain our groups in this modern world? Do you have a vampire community or pracise alone? How do you live in a Modern society and adapt?

I am not a vampire but I will give you my view.

If vampires can blood and breed then it is possible it could take over the human race.Somehow though , I doubt they can breed. However , blooding is - they can all change with your view , do vampires blood or are they born ?- much quicker then breeding.Not as much fun though....

As for how many they are....Only a true vampire could estimate....

vampire populatin is at it's highest these days...beacause more and more fools pass this "gift" to others who can't handle it...they are out of contrlo...i'm a conservatory so i guess some form of control should be established...

Eden,

may you mind telling me how they pass '' the gift?''

many thanks.

my dear Life, i do not approve with those who do not take responsability for their actions. i reffered to vampirism as "the gift" beacause i wanted to state out that not all are worthy of being vampires...



do you take me for a fool, Life?

Ha. Do you really think bad would become of it ?

I seek to separte the facts from fiction .

As for the fool comment- do you really wish me to answer that?

Edit :

Also, what actions have I done wrong ? Or are you talking about those who pass on vampirisum ?


And when you refered to ''the gift'' I knew what you were talking about , don't talk to me like a dumb animal.

you last post was very confusing...what did you want to say again?

Tell me - what bad would come if you tell me how vampires pass on vampirisum ?

I wish to separate facts from fiction. Nothing more , nothing less.

I think its getting harder to recognize mondernday vampires. What we know of as vampires is the stories that were told to us i.e. Dracula,etc; Modernday vampires are hard to spot especially as of more recently. Most are isolated from the rest of their kind. We are forced to live amongst the great sea of humanity with little or no contact whatsoever with others of our own kind. In a way yes we are dying out because of seclusion from like souls.

Ok different views thats cool, So Eden do u think that 'the gift' of vampirism is becoming too easy, as in anyone, even someone not dedicated and serious can become a vampire? DO you think that this lack of responsibility will make or break the vampire population? will vampires in turn regret their actions and turn against eachother eventually? things should be taken more seriously if its a possibility.

'Vampire Population.., Are we dying out'

I bloody well hope so.

Throne777

Every race must come to an end. Hundreds of years from now, millenias from now, we all must die out. Whether Immortal or not, all must be destroyed.

We of the Brotherhood are indeed dying out. In my life I have met only two other vampyres. There must to be more, but I have not seen them.

To you who wish us to be forever gone, do you know the Truth of the Brotherhood? We may seem evil, and perhaps we are, but we would never bring it upon ourselves to sacrifice an entire race from which we could profit from.

There's actually quite a few modern vamps in my community. Of course this could also be because I know where to look. Many people don't realize how many of us there are, because in general, we like to keep our secrecy. I know a few modern vamps, and several who are not vamps, but are fascinated by the lifestyle and are willing donors... which is very convenient for me :-).

I don't think we have to worry about being a dying breed, nor do we need to DO anything to keep up our numbers. As a matter of fact, I think now more than ever, we have grown in numbers. Now days, all lifestyles are much more accepted, and people are more open and willing to explore this possibility for themselves. There are also an awful lot of fakes and pretenders that come along with that, but it's well worth the freedom to express our beliefs.

Committing to a life of vampirism isn't for everyone.... as a matter of fact, isn't for most... which is why I say we shouldn't try to DO anything to create more, because it is a decision that we all need to come to on our own. Some of us are simply born for this lifestyle, and need to discover that ourselves. There is no way to rush or force this process on anyone, but society is becoming more and more accepting, so I think it's only the opposite. We're not dying out, but blossoming.

All vampyres can sense their kindred. Can you sense that they are True vampyres or do you just think that you feel they are Real?



Oh sure, there are still thousands of us, perhaps hundreds of thousands, but there are 6 billion humans. We used to have over a million. We are dying out.



How many are active vampyres, and how many Sleep their life away? The active vampyres are growing thinner.

Well what do you mean by "TRUE vampyres"? Being in the Vampire Lifestyle section, I was speaking of modern vamps, being of course mortal. A lot of people tend to keep bringing up REAL vampires, without ever defining what that means to them. To me, a TRUE vampire is one who legitimately lives this lifestyle with knowledge of what it means, and because they were born to live this lifestyle. Assuming that this is what you mean, yes, I would say that us "True vampyres" can most definately sense one another, not only because we know what to look for, but because I think we tend to be more awake and aware of the world around us. More sensitive to feeling, smell, taste, sound, everything, we are students of observation in our universe, and see things for what they are.

"Oh sure, there are still thousands of us, perhaps hundreds of thousands, but there are 6 billion humans. We used to have over a million. We are dying out.": When put in a ratio against the total amount of people on the planet, one might say that there aren't many at all. However, if you take almost any specific group and ratio it against the population, it won't look like much either. I don't think most of us have any desire to take over the population or even become a bigger part of it. I of course don't want to speak for others, but that's my belief on the subject. People become "True" vamps because that's what they're meant to be, it shouldn't just be something one decides on a whim. Therefore, I don't know how much control we can have over the growing or depleting population.

When you say there "used to be a million of us", what do you mean by "used to be"? Do you mean a few years ago, or hundreds of years ago? If we're speaking historically and going back hundreds of years, than you may be right, but I don't think that vampirisim or the vampiric lifestyle as we call it now, has ever been recognized as it is today, nor accepted. Please do correct me if I'm wrong, but I have done my homework as well, and history has shown that although there have been historic vampires, the culture has always been misunderstood and looked down on... and it still is by most, but I think that in general, people are more willing to allow themselves to follow that path for themselves.

I COMPLETELY agree with you about "active vampires" as opposed to those who say they're vamps but play video games all day (assuming that's what you meant). I think that the majority of the vampiric culture are "rebellious" teenagers who think it sounds cool, and decide they all want to be vampires. That's the disappointment, and where most of the incorrect assumptions of us come from. However, though we are also having to take on a LOT more ignorant bored "goths" who think they're vampires, I think that modern society has allowed more of the "true" vamps to explore themselves, and allow themselves to become part of the community.

Confrontation brings out more in people, i like it. With the statement being born as vampires do you refer to it as they were born from vampire parent/s or they have born instinct to a chosen path of becoming a vampire? Inessence born?

Perhaps it's because I'm caught up in the modern day, but I beleive the most effective way to keep ourselves from dying out, is to prove to the world why we're better. Then once they see what we're capable of attaining only seek out those who are worthy, and dedicated enough to be one of us. We have to show that we aren't just some "fad" or lost cause for troubled teens to confide in. We must show that vampirism isn't a way of life, but it is life. Once we stop taking the "safe" quiet route and start showing that we are as seriouse as any organization that so many humans clamor to. If Mason's can live their life of secrecy and still be an organization known for having power, then we shouldn't have any problems expanding. The name Vampire is eternal already through movies, books, etc, but we need to have the true Vampiric way forever existant, otherwise the movies and books will only provoke more fools to fall victim to the stereotype Vampire lifestyle.

What it means to be born as a vampire is that we (meaning myself and other natural borns) were created as we are. We were not born through parents the way humans are born. We were created with a specific image, and we shaped our minds and our paths around the Brotherhood.

No, I realize that I am going to start a commotion here when I say this...
but can you actually say that you are a vampire? Do you shape this image about yourself? Do you change the pieces of folklore to better suit your mythology?
Suddenly walking in the daylight doesnt hurt 'vampires' anymore. Suddenly vampires dont need to drink blood to survuive.
At the same time, I do feel like an asshole for saying this, because it is something I dont fully understand, those people who give themselves fully to this thing. Most people probably think it to be a consious choice, just like most people think choosing an alternative sexuality is a choice people make. Its not. You are the way you are.
I just sometimes wonder how many of you are fifteen year olds who are obsessed with Anne Rice...

I think it is you who is caught up in Anne Rice's writings (which I have never read, by the way, are they interesting?). Being afraid and vulnerable to daylight and having to drink blood has neverbeen a part of the vampyre lifestyle. Yes alot of us do drink blood, but it had never been needed.. it is in our nature, after all.

These myths about sunlight killing us and stakes through the heart killing us are just that; myths. I do not blame you for being skeptical or angry, but I speak Truth. Believe me or do not, you decide.

I understand you views, personally I also believ it is a chosen path however I'm sure there could be factors which we are born with to help prevoke our decision to be interested or become a vampire.
I've never read any Anne Rice books either, just because someone writes a vampire book doesn't mean the readers or the writer have anything to do with them. I read an interview about her after the Florida murders of the Woldolfs..teenage vampire story in 1996,one of the girls was obsessed with anne rice books, anne rice was discusted and seemed to change her views on her own writing. I dont think she's anything special just by hearing that.
Why do you think that people (15 year olds u said) need some type of motivation like a book to want to become a vampire? I understand ur points completely, I never read a book or watched a vampire movie until After i was interested in it.

The only reason why I even brought it up is because there are so many people, mostly teenagers, who are caught up in the fad, you know? They are like the people who think wearing black makes them a goth, or having a mohawk makes them a punk. I just wasnt sure, is all. Its good to know that there are actually people intent on living however the hell they want, though. I've just been disgusted by many of those types of people, you know? I'm not saying I am a vampire or anything, either.

My dear Sar Kein. I don't mean to offend or anything. I just would like to understand. Do you really believe yourself to be a 'natural born' vampire (as you put it)? How can a person be a natural born. This confuses and intregues me. What exactly are your views on this? Does anyone else believ that you can be naturally born a vampire, not simply be born grow up an at a certain age fully realise your vampirism? :icon6:

You do not realize it until you grow and your mind becomes mature enough to accept it. So although you are natural born, you would not realize it until you could full come to understand what it means.

ok for the simple minded people in the world that have been brainwashed into beleiving in something that is a meer myth this is my insight. no vampires are not real they will never be real only in books and movies people need to let go of the things that were made up originaly in transilvania and not make it there own way if u want to be a vampire fine go somewere else make your own country and live your own way but leave the normal people out of it that just fantasise about the fact that vampires are cool to talk about not sit there and mkae yourself think u are a vampire in the end u will all eat and drink something besides blood because ifu dont u would die easily and in the end u would prolly die from aids so stop living in a fantasy world and wake up to the real world and stop lieing about these things just have fun and talk about it and not want it to be true so u live in a dream world and everyone around u is a vampire.

Born with instincts and desires as to the path we will choose for ourselves. I don't believe it to be a hereditary thing, but a lifestyle that best suits who we have been since birth.

I disagree, because I think your comment implies that vampirism is the best lifestyle choice for everyone. It simply isn't, and the reason why we are a minority is because a minority of people are meant to live this life. Just as some people choose to live life as a nun or even a prostitute, neither is the right or wrong choice, and neither is chosen by the majority. There are a small percentage of the population whom will life life happiest and fullest through vampirism, and others are made happiest in other ways.

We are not better than everyone else, but this is the better lifestyle for those meant to live it.

Thank you for pointing this out, and also thank you for not being rude or judgemental in your opinion. People are constantly saying "how do you know you're a REAL vampire?" or "are you a TRUE vampire?" or, like you, "can you ACTUALLY say that you're a vampire?" The fact is, this is about living the vampiric lifestyle. I would most likely not walk up to someone who didn't understand what it meant and just say "I'm a vampire." I feel free to use the word here because I'm making the assumption that most here know what it means. The fact is, it is simply a lifestyle made up of many characteristics and traits that all add up to something many would consider similar to that of the classical vampire. "Vampire" is simply easier than going into detail about the lifestyle I live, but is only to be used around those who know what it means.

You say "Suddenly walking in the daylight doesnt hurt 'vampires' anymore. Suddenly vampires dont need to drink blood to survuive." However, none of this has happened SUDDENLY. Even historical vampires from which many of the myths originated could walk in the sunlight, and didn't require blood for survival. This is not a new occurrence. You seem to be following the classical vampire folklore, which really came from fictions like Dracula and Interview With The Vampire more than anything else. Wonderful stories no doubt, but fictions nonetheless. If you have more questions for me, feel free to send a message, for there is much more to be said on the topic.

"I just sometimes wonder how many of you are fifteen year olds who are obsessed with Anne Rice..." Unfortunately, most people here probably are, and at least half of those who call themselves vampires are in fact "rebellious" teenagers who strive to believe the fictions of Anne Rice and Bram Stoker. We must let them live their uninformed lifestyles and continue with stereotypical beliefs of what they are, because they will never go away. I've learned to look beyond it and live my life.

Before leaving such comments, I encourage you to make at least some effort in research to find out what it means to be a vampire. Why did you come here at all if you chose to be skeptical and rude with no desire to learn? If you're going to speak of your beliefs, learn enough first to make them EDUCATED beliefs and come back when you do. If not, please leave us alone.

darkseed, broden ur horizons man, this world is a fucked up place and wether people want to believe in vampires or not isn't upto anyone like u or me to tell them other wise. If they believe that's cool, if they just want to talk about it and acknowledge its fantacy who cares? Fantacy means no boundaries, its an escape from reality so although i understand wat ur saying some people might get pissed off at wat u said. What r ur views on vampires then if you dont believe? are u jsut here for a laugh or u find it interesting or do u take it as a role playing game?

While I agree with your intent and response to Darkseed, I also must acknowledge the fact that you referred to our beliefs as "fantasy". Now like you said, we all have our own beliefs that we are entitled to, but there is also no denying that people DO live vampiric lifestyles, which is the definition of what a modern vampire is, therefore modern vampires DO exist. This is not a fantasy, and it's an issue there is no debating in. The only debate as to the existence of vampires is the existence of CLASSICAL vampires, which has it's own section you and Darkseed could go to if you want to argue with someone.

[color=bloodred] i think that we are vnnishing because no one understands us and are afraid of us. they only stick to what they know like the little comformist that they are![color//]

yeah i totally believe that there is modern style or vampires in our modern world, not doubting it for a second, all i was sayin to darkseed was that even if he believes its a fantacy let others believe wat they want.
As with the vampire populations, i still havent got enought grasp on that, i still want to find out more. Are ther many vampires that you know of? do you have a cult/ community?

Generally speaking from my opinion and what I know of others, part of vampirism is a sense of independence, therefore I think most of us try to avoid cults. I see a part of a vampiric lifestyle as freedom, and "cults" tend to have a lot of limitations, and do not allow much freedom at all. I don't think we should worry about "dying out", because we all simply live our lives as we like, and allow others to live the lifestyles they choose. It bothers me when vampires say "I wish people would accept us for who we are", then turn around and say "Everyone should be a vampire because our lifestyle is better." This is not true, EVERYONE should be accepted for who they are, and the path they choose to follow in their lives.

As far of how many vampires I know of... I know of several who are "into" vampirism, enjoy blood and being fed off of, which makes for plenty of convenient donors for me :-) . There are plenty of people who claim to be vampires, but very few who know what it truely means, and live that lifestyle for the right reasons. However, we weren't meant to take over the Earth with what some would call "our kind", we simply choose a lifestyle which makes us happiest and allows us to live our lives to the fullest, and leave everyone else to their lives.

We are not a seperate species, and anyone who claims to be doesn't understand what we are. We are MORTAL PEOPLE with a specific set of beliefs and ways of life. A modern vampire is simply a person made up of a series of traits and characteristics that add up to match that of a vampire. It is an easy, one-word description of how someone chooses to live, and people often take the word and twist it to make us look like a whole different species. I don't believe our population to be anything to worry about, because we live our lives as others live theirs, and the simplicity of it is part of what makes it so beautiful.

i really liked how u worded everything. thanks for helping i appriciate it.

Not a problem

Vampires? Dieing out? Never I know at least 7 other vampires in my neighborhood and one of them is my close friend Tyler, who's a year younger then me. We are so not dieing out and the vampires will live forever!!!! ok ... maybe not forver

I agree.

Interesting comments … what is a vamp a true vamp….. the Hollywood image the church propaganda … im a witch a true witch I know the lies of the church I understand why a cross is ment to harm I understand the light issue and I don’t believe any of it …. Vamps are real and I guess we all have a misconception