evil fish
Jan 7 2005, 05:16 PM
i know this has been mentioned before by me but i wanted to know what every one else thought of the subject
Nosferatu_The_Werewolf
Jan 7 2005, 05:32 PM
The link between vampires and cannibalism doesn't exist, my opinion! The cannibalism is a whole DIFFERENT thing because the cannibals eat their victims and do not drink their blood! The vampires SUCK their blood and do not eat even a single part of the victim! So....WAKE UP DUDE!!! Where did you get the crazy idea about cannibalism and vampires???
NightVision
Jan 8 2005, 01:37 AM
I don't think it's a crazy idea: many people investigate this link.
On the one hand, it depends on the 'type' of cannibalism and the 'type' of vampirism.
Both things are favoured by some serial killers - and can be seen as deviant behaviour in that context, both things can also be a method of transferring energy in a religious/spiritual context.
In both cases there is an element of feeding, whether for gratification or enlightenment.
evil fish
Jan 8 2005, 03:21 PM
Well if a trader who moved from town to town said there’s a cannibal tribe to the north they eat people. That would not get people listening to his stories would it? So the trader would "spice" up the tail like they had fangs only came out at night lived in coffins that would get people more interested and as they where told more frightening vampire traits where made.
NightVision
Jan 9 2005, 02:08 AM
That's a very new, and very interesting slant on things there, Evil Fish :)
I remember somewhere I read that being a cannibal in life was one of the conditions that could get you transformed into a Vampire in death - I think it was a European superstition, or a Russian one. Fact is, cannibalism isn't as rare as people think. In the past, when there were famines and such, horrific tales of people eating family members did emerge in Europe. I wish I had a source for all this. I'm just using my mighty memory here.
keldor
Jan 9 2005, 02:53 AM
i personaly dont think that thay are related.
most cannabilistic tribes view anyone out side of ther tribe as a whole differnt specace ( cant spell) to them eating a member of another tribe is like eating a cow. people like dhamer who are sick and feel the need to eat and kill living humans are diagnosed as having scitsopfrenic (agin cant spell)
lycantropy. ther not werewolfs the just act like one. civelised people that eat the flesh from corpses are refered to as gholes. there is no reason for them to do this, most just have a compulson to do so.
vampires are more like a paresite ( sorry all yous vampires out there)
thay feed off of peoples life force for there own gain. thay dont just drain a victom in one feding. a vampire could take months to drain a person of there life force, cosing the victom to suffer in pain for a long while.
any way thats my own vewpoint on cannabilim and vampires.
Lili
Jan 19 2005, 02:04 PM
Actually, when you look at the myths, vampires are more traditionally incorporeal spirits who drain blood/energy from the living. Cannibalism is more closely related to lycanthropy and werewolves than it is to vampire myth.
evil fish
Jan 19 2005, 06:24 PM
its not there modern apperence i want its there background that is to do with cannablism
Lili
Jan 21 2005, 02:36 PM
Guys, it's getting a little warm in here. What do you say we go back to the original thread?
I would argue that cannibalism isn't a facet of the vampire mythos, even in modern times. Considering the point I made earlier (that werewolves are more closely related to cannibalism than vampires) and also considering that the cannibal cases we've had in recent history are withour vampire subtexts (they conform more closely to disorganized serial killers than to organized serial killers who may think they're vampires; I don't have an example of one of those off the top of my head but could probably find one), I should think that cannibalism is unrelated to the vampire myths in modern times.
The idea of blood-drinking and stealing vital energy is a little bit different than the idea of absorbing some quality of those you've slain through eating them. One is substantive, the other sympathetic magick, if you'll pardon the terms. Draining "energy" in the form of blood- since the blood is in most myths and even mowadays used mostly as a metaphor for life force- is not the same as absorbing your enemy's virtu by eating his heart as some shamans were wont to do.
One more reason why I think this: the vampire myths that we have mostly state emphatically that once the body is dead the vampire doesn't drink anymore; cannibalism by definition has to have a dead body.
Unless, of course, you're Hannibal Lector...
Throne777
Jan 21 2005, 04:01 PM
'Guys, it's getting a little warm in here. What do you say we go back to the original thread?'
#Turns on the gas tap, waits for the spark...#
Hehehe, thanks for the support guys/gals (is that derogatory?), I thought I would have got flamed, unless I am going to sometime in the future. Oh well. There's always my website.
Anyway, back to the topic. The only reason I can see the vampire cannibalism thing is from the older era's, like the Vikings I believe, where they believed drinking from the skull of your enemy gave you strength, or every time you killed someone you gained their strength. There were other civilisations around that time that believed devouring the flesh of your enemy gave you their strength. That's the only link I can really see.
evil fish
Jan 21 2005, 04:22 PM
your welcome ive read your web site its good
the wearwolf thing can also be linked back the cannablism and vampire as the tails got wilder so did the powers and names everyones heard of a man who drink blood but someone who turns into a wolf wow
evil fish
Jan 29 2005, 01:59 PM
the canablism thiry can also acount for other things like the bogy man or the monsters under your bed
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