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Nosferatu_The_Werewolf
Vlad Tepes or Vlad Dracul or Vlad The Impaler or Dracula! The "Tepes" becomes from "teapa" which means in romanian (I am romanian) "spear"! The nickname Tepes was given to Vlad because he had a barbarian style ti kill his enemies: he impaled them and if you visit Sighisoara, Romania ask about the Torture Chamber of Vlad Tepes and you will find out incredible sadistic things! Vlad said "Death is one but the way you die can be different" and he was allways thinking of sadistic methods of killing! He was a good man because when he ruled there weren't thieves and people like that! Bram Stoker insired his book by an article from "Descrierea Transilvaniei si Molodovei" by William Williamson (the name I'm not sure about) - who was the ambasador of United States or England long time ago - where this William said that Vlad has been a sadistic person and liked blood. But these affirmations don't have a veridic support because Vlad didn't like blood allthough he killed many thieves, turks and enemies! Bram Stoker did 2 things for Romania : 1) He contributed to the romanian tourism in those parts of the country and 2) he masacrated the romanian history! That's all!
NightVision
It's always good to meet people who are interested in the historical roots of the Dracula Legend. Perhaps you might find this thread interesting? :

http://forum.darkness.com/index.php?showtopic=15000
ishezuishtar
I used vlad tepish for a contraversal essay I found out all that I could on him and his history and family I found it very interestingly intreging. :icon12:
Audie Revived
Technically what Vlad Tepes did for Romania, Australia did for Britain...
Fluid of life
I read that the Catholic Church (the pope) gave him a medal for the stopping of the muslim invasion. The story I heard was that impaled thousands of people near the road and when the army saw Vlad's own people impaled they went home. It may not be true, fol
Nosferatu_The_Werewolf
Well. I don't think those things are actually true, but I know a story: Vlad impaled hundreds of turks and when the turkish army arrived and saw that masacre was horrified and went home! This story has historical background and I believe it's true!
Demonlover
This might be interesting for you. Vladius actually is his true name but Vlad the impaler is my great great.... uncle in the bloodline of mine. So you can ask me any question you wish about him. Yes he did terrible things but he did do them for a certain ritual. He is not considered Dracula for nothing.
Soulkeeper
QUOTE (Nosferatu_The_Werewolf @ Jan 7 2005, 05:55 PM)
Vlad Tepes or Vlad Dracul or Vlad The Impaler or Dracula! The "Tepes" becomes from "teapa" which means in romanian (I am romanian) "spear"! The nickname Tepes was given to Vlad because he had a barbarian style ti kill his enemies: he impaled them and if you visit Sighisoara, Romania ask about the Torture Chamber of Vlad Tepes and you will find out incredible sadistic things! Vlad said "Death is one but the way you die can be different" and he was allways  thinking of sadistic methods of killing! He was a good man because when he ruled there weren't thieves and people like that! Bram Stoker insired his book by an article from "Descrierea Transilvaniei si Molodovei" by William Williamson (the name I'm not sure about) - who was the ambasador of United States or England long time ago - where this William said that Vlad has been a sadistic person and liked blood. But these affirmations don't have a veridic support because Vlad didn't like blood allthough he killed many thieves, turks and enemies! Bram Stoker did 2 things for Romania : 1) He contributed to the romanian tourism in those parts of the country and 2)  he masacrated the romanian history! That's all!
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i also know allot about vlad the implaler and would lov to tlk with u about it(JOGrant8@msn.com), allot of ppl take him wrong. thnx 4 the info.
Nosferatu_The_Werewolf
Yeah, he was just human with deadly psichology! That's all! The ones who say he was a vampire are wrong! Demon lover Vlad Tepes was your uncle? Hmmm... Are you roumanian....I am skeptic about Vlad being your great great.. uncle!
Demonlover
I have romainian blood as well as other mixed bloodlines. He had relatives connected to him. I am mixed with his bloodline and others. You could considered it called "Blue-Blooded" or something like that. But yes he really is related to me and my family. I m just not grossed out about my ancestors like my family is. I believe that inside him he was afraid and anger person. And insane but in a somewhat good way. My mother says i somehow take after him. With loving blood.
Eden
this attention flatters me...honestly...not that you would know...i am intersted in one thing:
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This might be interesting for you. Vladius actually is his true name but Vlad the impaler is my great great.... uncle in the bloodline of mine. So you can ask me any question you wish about him. Yes he did terrible things but he did do them for a certain ritual. He is not considered Dracula for nothing.


Demonlover how can you be so sure?
Eden
you know after this thing with the bloodline, Demonlover, i wouldn't be amazed if someine claimed he is the descendant of the Merovingians and that his mom says that he looks like Jesus Christ...that would be truly amuzing...
Demonlover
Not funny at all. I am a relative in his bloodline. I do not like the fact that u make fun of my family. I am originally from europe born and bred there. Do not insult my families bloodline. It is true because to my family it is important to keep all of our ancestories in a book. The first of our line made sure it would pass on; some were crossed out because of failure to keep the bloodline clean and so forth declare not of our line. Etc. :icon6:
honurecwanderer
demonlover... that is totally awesome... i have spent coutless hours researching about vladisdav, and am always astounded by the ammount of information i can find on him
Carniwhore
i am also romainian.....demonlover that is very interesting....i do wish to know more....unfortunatlly i was allways more interested in the history of other countries than mine.....eh...we all learn while we live
Eden
why do people missinterpret things?
i did not insult you Demonlover...i am just not so naive as others...so i wanted some proof...
btw...his real name is Vlad and other "variations" ar for publicity purposes...
as a matter of fact Vlad Tepes is the SON of Vlad Dracul. they are not the same person...but this is something that you should have pointed out Demonlover since you are the one with the family book...i suppose you didn't see it...
Carniwhore
calm dowm my dear eden....*takes eden out for mose fresh aer and brings him back*
Eden
was I ever anxious my dear DeathBride?
Carniwhore
you did sound pissed off love
Eden
in fact i was being sarcastic...my dear...i can hardly lose my temper...
Carniwhore
you know it doesn't matter to me...i allways get you out of trouble love
Roewan
I do love the dracula stories though. One of the greatest love stories of all time. It was absolutely intoxicating. Amazing how we can paint a monster to be a lover. I wonder what the real man was like...


.............................."I have crossed oceans of time for you........."
Eden
as far as history can tell us he was a cruel and savage leader who had a thing with thieves and turks...but we all know that history has the uncomfortable custom to exagerate certain feats and to ignore others...indeed Roewan it would be very interesting to find out how he really was...you question is a pertinent one...
for DeathBride: i am grateful for the care and tender you show me...
Carniwhore
what would you do without me dear eden?
Demonlover
So Eden is male. lol. No wonder u needed proof. lmao. Yes I did know but I was wondering if anyone would catch on to it. I applaud u dear Eden. I love ur
sarcastic way of pissing me off. I tend to piss alot of people off. I guess its because I forget my place. Typical male and female. lol. Haven't laughed this much in ages. I must talk to u more often Eden.
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IrishDarkness
Personally I think Vlad was just normal royalty who wanted to clean up his kingdom and get a little power trip at the same time. I believe he wanted to clean up and protect his country by the atrocities he commited ( obviously the impalings) , but I believe he did the more sadistic tortures not because he was sick, but because he felt powerful afterwards. There's a certain amount of power felt when you realize you control someone's fate.
Rhuen
He also impaled little birds while he was imprisoned.
Demonlover
As well as torment the rats that crawled around and then devoured them just like he did with the birds.
Creature Feature
I think "devoured" is a bit harsh. More probable; he ate them because he was in a fucking prison in the dark ages, and they weren't known for their human rights back then, nor were they known for their gourmet meals. He was starving so he ate, he didn't devour them as if he was some kind of hellspawn.
darkseed999
vlad dracula is no true it is just a myth of the body parts of the living thing when a man enters and destorys all four mystical creaturesthen her will obtain the vlad pendants which make u stronger faster smarter and more vonerable to evil things
satansadvocate
the name vlad was made by dracula a beast that he had tammed then he killed it and gave the 5 pieces to other stronge monster when alucard came looking for his past he obtained 5 peices of vlad,and they arethe eye of vlad,heart of vlad,rib of vlad,ring of vlad,& tooth of vlad
CultHero
If your interested there is a very indepth artical on Vlad Tepes found here:

Vlad Tepes

It's very informative.
Demonlover
Did u know that if u spell alucard backwards its dracula. Funny.
Lili
"Alucard" is "Dracula" backwards because Stoker deliberately did that.

As for the stories of Vlad impaling birds while imprisoned, you must understand that these stories were spread by people who had a vested interest in demonizing Vlad Tepes for political reasons. Tepes was the only bulwark against Turkish invasion for Christendom, which was a serious thing in those times. He also had to keep control of a class of rebeliious nobles- the boyars. After his death, the boyars and other political leaders had to discredit his achievement any way they could- like the smearing of Richard III's reputation.

Granted, Tepes was brutal and Machiavellian. But he was no more so than his enemies the Turks- or his enemies the boyars, or any other medieval warlord for that matter.
Eden
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the name vlad was made by dracula a beast that he had tammed then he killed it and gave the 5 pieces to other stronge monster when alucard came looking for his past he obtained 5 peices of vlad,and they arethe eye of vlad,heart of vlad,rib of vlad,ring of vlad,& tooth of vlad


all hail hollywood and all that movie shit
Sad Eyes
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"Alucard" is "Dracula" backwards because Stoker deliberately did that.


Im not trying to start anything but Stoker did not write Hellsing and if you want to get technical only in America is Alucard spelled that way in Japan (where it orginated) it is spelled: Arucard, but yea I always did wonder if Alucard was lke a japanese version of Dracula or something, Hince Hellsing/VanHellsing..You see Hellsing and Dracual are two of my most favorite subjects(Im a freak I cant help it) but Bram Stokers Dracual...I wonder was he actually basing it on Vlad the Impaler or not??? I have always wondered that because there was not VanHellsing in Vlads time that I am aware of, Please help a very intrested girl out.
CultHero
Stoker loosely based Dracula on Tepes. Van Helsing however is a completly fictional character created by Stoker. The real Tepes lived in the 1500's and was ruler of Wallachia. The Dracula novel takes place in 1800's England.

The origin of the name Dracula is as follows:

King Sigismund of Hungary, who became the Holy Roman Emperor in 1410, founded a secret fraternal order of knights called the Order of the Dragon to uphold Christianity and defend the Empire against the Ottoman Turks. Its emblem was a dragon, wings extended, hanging on a cross. Vlad III’s father (Vlad II) was admitted to the Order around 1431 because of his bravery in fighting the Turks. From 1431 onward Vlad II wore the emblem of the order and later, as ruler of Wallachia, his coinage bore the dragon symbol.
The word for dragon in Romanian is "drac" and "ul" is the definitive article. Vlad III’s father thus came to be known as "Vlad Dracul," or "Vlad the dragon." In Romanian the ending "ulea" means "the son of". Under this interpretation, Vlad III thus became Vlad Dracula, or "the son of the dragon." (The word "drac" also means "devil" in Romanian. The sobriquet thus took on a double meaning for enemies of Vlad Tepes and his father.)
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