Has anyone heard of a group of 20 people dated back to the time of babylonia which consisted of seven known as gates/guardians and thirteen keys? Some of which members were Vampires.

However you might have come accross this information.... I would consider leaving it at the door. No one has wanted to talk about them for along time.

Tred thinly.
Naelreiv Mephioch

I have heard of it...I think, but it's quite some time ago and the details are fuzzy. I'll look around a bit.

ive never heard about it but ill have a look

Thanks a lot to both of you. We really need some more information and a few friends of ours aren't exactly making it easy to find anything new to this all. It's proving to be really difficult.

That sounds like a warning but it is serious information that we really need... badly. It's a long story and it's not easy to explain how this info has reached us. However, we know that some people won't be happy that we're looking for it but we have to bend the rules a bit.

Mmhmm, I know who you are asking about. I've heard of them but the information I know of them is very little. A story behind them all and yet they are not fully gone. Sorry if I can't give you enough behind this but you seem to be hiding something also. If you really want to know then I suggest you look not only into Babylonia but other places as well.

I have searched under Babylonia and other similar catagories information on this particular subject is rare. A few friends of mine who know more then they let on refuse to give any of this information out, and unless I find out more myself they will not give anything else away.

I'm fimiliar with the 7 gates. And the seven Bells. I don't know from what time period they come from.

I trust that you already know the consequences for knowing too much. If word got out that these people were in fact located, then some amount of others will be after them for reasons I'm not going to begin to explain. If your friends are not telling as much as they know then don't worry yourself over it. They might have to keep everything hidden under a hat until they find it the right time to explain. Not everything is written in stone and you might need to find info by other sources.

i also think that u are hideing a deeper reson and im not shore weather to trust u but thy this

http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v2gn/ketokgdm.html

it would seem to me that what u are looking for is to do with religon and hevan or hell but before i give u anythink else i would like a better explanation

My reason would probably be unexplainable. But it has nothing to do with religion. However, it does have a purpose and will be very useful to me. I'm not trying to look this up for reasons unknown but this is something important that I must find out about so everything comes up more clear. Nothing selfish in any way... if I could put this into words I would, but sadly this is becoming difficult as you might have noticed by now. Thank you and Chaya, I think you might be hiding something as well. If you don't wish to tell me then I understand.

ithink thatwhat your looking for has some power to what i have found it is mentioned in the bible and levels or gates to hevan or hell so if found in thery u could take someone from the underworld to the upperlight there for creating an inbalence destroying everythink!

And why would I do that? I'm not out to destroy the world

destruction of the world is not the problem its the evils that we will face if such power is found

7 gates 13 keys, while taken seperatly they do so yell that certain hevenly aura about them dont they 7 and 13 being holy numbers, but they so also sound alot like something i read in the necronomican, i belive the 3rd set of rituals, but hey while it would never hurt to look there i might be wrong, just trying to help

True. there will be an imbalance but that won't be from me knowing of this. I have my reasons to find this stuff out. However, I still can't state them easily.


Thank you, Saintsinner. It's great to realize that people are trying to help. It's a lot more useful than what my friends tell me.

i will help you but plz try to explain and could you tell us what exatly your friends have told you

7 gates of hell 13 keys only holders can go in and out of hell

mortal where the guardiens of gate 6 - 7

7 gates 20 guardians 13 gate 3 vampire 2 mortal


Gates to hell death been the first gate the key is the path of god

Using other ideas death (grim reaper) play-games

Third gate ?

I found where I had heard of the 13, or rather the 12, with one leader. Unfortunately the posts that explains most of it got lost in a hack. :( But as far as I recall, it involved a council at Atlantis, and reincarnations of them. When the time comes, which is soon, the 12 and their leader will gather again.

OK this has probably got sod all to do with this an may jus be some coincidence but if in Matthew 7:13

"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

if you culd tell me what the other guardian are i could figure it out

What's with all this 'Ye know....Too much...' business. What's with all these hollow death threats? Is there some kind of mysterious conspiracy behind this. Because I missed that meeting. It's like people still think that the Masons are still as powerful as they used to be. They're not. I have their books. They are but a shadow of their former selves and what they stood for. Now they are just a formality.

ye know to much isnt that off little britan

In short, yes.

7 (seven) is considered to be a lucky numer! He is The Divine Number because there are 7 wonders of the world, the 7 holes of a human, etc. , while 13 is an unlucky number because: Tarot Card No13 = Death, in heaven were 12 streams 12 gates, 12 and so on and one more (13) whould create an imbalance! This is all I know about the numbers! About the gates and keys nothing and I would like to know too! Please keep me informed! I will do my best to complete any home tasks that you (the board, the masters) will give me!

gates to hell! can anyone else tell me the other guardiens

I seem to be getting some of the information I need. Which is a good thing. If there is anything else please let me know. I can't tell what I know, but I'm just going to say that I know more about the guardians than the keys. However, I still need to know much about both.

Actually 7 and 13, especially 13 are very very significant numbers in most "secret" societies. The freemasons pretty much worship the damn number within itself and have sets of it around the world that kind of...hint at it. Something to do with the Zodiac and Jesus if memory serves me right.

I haven't heard of them but it does sound like the Ghostbuster movie (I can't remember which.) This does not mean that they did not come from historical fact. Many tales come from an author expounding upon a small reference to somehting that attracts their eye. Trust me no offence is intended

if you tell me the guardiens i will figure out the key i think each guardien is a key holder therer for some guardens are there to trick you which i think i can figure out

you're right there, each guardian is a key holder, but it's more complexed than that.

Each guardian is a key holder but not in a manner where they don't fit. If you take notice to a door, there could be two keys (or spares) that are able to open the lock to that same door.
But it's only best not to trust everyone. I have heard only yesterday that there is not only 7 gates and 13 keys, but 7 keys and 13 gates that are almost completely opposite to the others. Both are dated back to the time of Babylonia when the last prince of Babylon lived, unable to be crowned before the great flood.

Zazel you beat me to it, the main refference i think to the seven gates do seem to have a connection to the book of revelations ie the 13 gates to hell???

Saint Michael stands to the right of the Cross, with seven Archangels, the special guardians that I am quite familiar with; they have names which are similar to those of the seven great Archangels. Saint Michael has on a yellow tunic this time, with silver armour; his wings are spread wide, covering at least half of the sky.

great so seven of the guardiens are arch angels but what deffeats them

Someone has recently told me that the 7 gates/guardians and 13 keys are somehow connected with David's star. Looking into it, I think I have found how.

If you feel like sharing, don't be afraid to.

13 relating to Jesus; Jesus plus disciples = 13. Yay. Or not.
The divine number is the one in my signiture. 1.618, or PHI, to give it its proper name.
Guardians of Hell, depends on which religion you look at isn't it? Cerberus for instance was the three headed guard dog of the Underworld, Greek mythology I believe. There are others, can't be bothered to name them though.

ok i read some of this in the satanic bible there are several refrences to the 13 keys and 7 gates of hell there is a method of moveing from hell and other places like being able to leave hell ... ill look at the pdf file ill have to dl it again

i think i mentioned that

... ok then

anynew info? anyone so who first thought about this and why i heard about this months ago the keys and gates crap but what does that really matter for, someone trying to get some power? lol just going deep

I don't think there's much more to be really said. Everyone keeps practically saying the same thing over and over. We really appreciate it though.

I'm not to familar with this subject but I do recall something astalogical that might be related to this. 7 days in a week and in calendars of ole 13 monthes maybe there is more to it than just this but I tought it might be worth mentioning. Sorry if this doesn't help any but like i said I am not familar with this subject. Thank u and safe journey.