:ph34r: i remember reading an anne rice novel called The Blood Canticle in which one of the mayfair witches was turned into a vampire. it got me wondering if it is actually possible for someone to be both a witch and a vampire. or do you have to be one or the other? i think it would interesting to be both .

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firstly let me say welcome Megabratt.

There was a thread around not so long ago about vampires v witches who would be stronger.. if you do a search at the top of the page it should come up.. there was some interesting commentry that i think will help answer your question.

It depends on what type of vampire you are talking about as well, which definition. If you are refering to vampires in the classical undead etc then i cannot say. with reference the RLV's, Psi vamps and sanguine vamps it is widely open for debate. Personally speaking I am a psivamp and a witch so yes in that sense it is possible.

I do hope this helps you some,

Vicereine

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sure... everything is possible... it would be really cool to meet a wiccan.. here i only have other types of witches and shamans

how do u become one? a wiccan

well, if you look at it technically, it should be possible.....

being a witch, or wiccan, has a lot to do with belief, faith and inner strength and power to me, so i couldnt see why just becoming a vampire (i refer to the classical and modern vampires here) could stop you......

but to just comment, merrick mayfair was a witch before she was turned into a vampire, would it be easier to become a witch or wiccan if you were already a vampire? just a question to add on...........

i woudl think that it would seem a little mute to do that if you are assuming that the transformation is Ricean in nature, with powers coming with the dark gift. Its a bit like what happened to Armand i should imagine. he had forgotten his religeon because of abuse before Marius rescued him and yet he returned to christianity when santino abducted him.. hius vampire nature remained the same but his rules changed.

it depends on wether you need structure in your life as a mortal as to what you do when you are immortal.. i would think...

could be wrong usually am! lol

If you were Wiccan and a vampire wouldn't that be breaking the Wiccan law? 'Harm ye none, do as ye will', if you are taking someones blood or energy you are harming them. So no, that can't really work. Although, amusingly enough, I have heard of Christian witches. Seems slightly ironic.

personally i agree, which is why i call myself a witch rather than a wiccan.. but to each his own...

*Ecknowledges self* Yes, you can be a vampire and a witch. That's me. Yay.
As for the wiccan law... it's pretty tangled up. However, one can find loop holes. Even then, it's just saver to call me'self a witch thani wiccan, although I wouldn't consider myself a black magic witch. :ol_rolleyes:

Maeve has the jist of the wiccan creed "An it harm none, Do what thou wilt". It has alot of interpretations, though the general meaning is not "dont harm people or you arent wiccan" but more of "consider the harm that could come over your actions before indulging" after all, if a wiccan is attacked is it wrong to defend oneself?

I am a wiccan, and personaly i dont believe it possable to also be a vampire. wicca is a religion that values life above all else, if a vampire continues to "live" by feeding off the life of others... spiritually, mentally, or physicaly... that is directly adverse to the wiccan religion. a "Dark Wiccan" is not a devil worshiper, nor one who ignores the value of life. a dark wiccan is one who works with the powers of the night and moon rather than light and sun. i consider myself a dark wiccan.

I value life in all forms, as all wiccans do. one who uses magick with no value for life is not a wiccan; witch, sorceror, wizard, magickian, call them what you will. one does not have to be a wiccan to use magick, wicca is a religion, nothing more.

i do believe it possable to be a vampire and still use magick. sure, why not. it is possable to use magick without good intent, and it is possable to use it for harm. fine. it is possable for one to be a witch and a vamp, it isnt possable for one to be a wiccan and a vamp...

I'd say depends how you look at it. I'm Wiccan, but I wouldn't have anything against a Wiccan vampire. In certain cases, if you're not hunting people down in the street. But if you have permission to drink someone's blood, and it's not a harmful amount and the person is completely aware of any possible risks and is doing their best to avoid risks and blah blah blah... Then for the most part I don't think it would be a terrible thing, but it depends on the situation.

Since vapirism is a gift of the blood and physical and witchcraft is a spiritual mental condition, they are not mutually exclusive. Just because some witches are wiccan or christian doesn't mean they have to be.

Christina-Witch/Wiccan is the second biggest oxymoron only to jumbo-shrimp.

I hate shrimp more than those "Burn-her-on-a-stake!" Catholics.

the wiccan religion is one big paradox, its a real big pain in the ass to define all wiccan precepts, what it boils down to is your own interpretations... the only thing that binds ALL wiccans is the value of life.

exactly

well, i dont know much about wiccan practices, can somebody explain that to me in what consist wicca?
The only thing i know is that they are really commited to the nature and the powers from it, but i dunno if that information is right too... jeje

That would take years... ask a some specific questions and id be more than happy to answer

Wicca is basically an earth religion. Wiccans worship the God and Goddess, using specified rituals, and celebrates their own religious holidays. Prophet is right in that it'll take very long to explain fully what wicca is about, but I can point you towards a website that will in the very least be a good start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicca

just in case it hasn't been said

anything is possible. i should know

Personaly,I think it's completely posible,but thats just my oppinion.I am both wiccan and vampire,and I've never had a problem with it.Even when I'm,um, "messing" with my friends.One would think that in being a vampire,the laws of wicca would allow one to drink blood,I mean,it's only natural.As long as you don't accualy "KILL" any one,it's allright.


"And as I walked into the dimlit room,I saw a pair of glowing eyes.":sadangel:

Before I found out that I was a vamp I was a witch and still continue to be one regardless.

I think being both would be considerabely confusing at times, but the metaphor...well...i'm not going anywhere with this actually. hmm...

Aren't both options just two different series of belief systems? Does that not mean that at some point they might or will coincide with each other? I mean, seriously... neither vampires nor witches are really concidered main stream at the moment (at least not where I'm from) and therefore receive a lot of bad publicity from most of those who are a part of whatever is considered normal or mainstream. I personally take interest in both Vampires and Wicca, but I'm not sure what that means in terms of my placement within this discussion.
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I am a wiccan and i truely and honestly think that harm none law is exceptional in the case of a wiccan being a vamp and the vamp feeding off the human it is the path that they choose and the punishment is nothing because whether your a human wiccan vampire all need to eat and fill their hunger i think its just a misunderstood conception and if there is an existance of a wiccan being a vampire than no it is not doing any harm...thats just my humble thought.

It is extremely possible to be both a witch and a vampire. You are not harming someone by taking their blood if they have given consent. The whole point of the Wiccan Rede is to not harm someone or do something to someone without their knowledge or permission. That is all that the Rede pertains to. So it is entirely possible to be both at the same time. Now my question is "is it possible to be both a Christian witch and a vampire?"

I dont know im a vampyre wiccan werewolf so i think its possible to be both

yes a witch or wizard can become a vampire i was turned by a spell but the spell was broken and i couldnt turn other people so you really cant call it a vampire more like a bloodluster

I am a witch and I want to become a classical vampire, I heard it's possible.

And why ironic? It all dependes on what kind of magic you practice. For example: I practice white high magic. And this is for thouse who believe in God.

In Romania are many so called ''Christian Witches''(bull-shit),I am a pagan, not wiccan,pagan, I believe the countinuity of our ancesters ,I believe in the druidic organisation of the religion, I believe in spirits of the forest,I believe in nature. In my country are many pagan legends, here even the christian church keeps many ancient pagan superstitions.

Look vampires can be Wiccians as long as they harm no one. If the vampire in question drinks human blood from willful donars it is okay but if they attack someone they are breaking the Wiccian Law.

Bear in mind you don't have to be wiccan to be a witch. It's dangerious stereotyping, and far too easy to miss the other options.

Witchcraft is so diverse that just about anyone can find a method of practicing they feel familiar with. Even christians practices a form of magic, through prayers and rituals. A regular Sunday mass is nothing but an age-old ritual, after all. Magic is all around you.

Being religious, or being a vampire, should in no way stop you from following your chosen path. Just make sure you follow your heart, not what's been told you by others.