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BlackFyre
1. DISCRETION
This lifestyle is private and sacred. Respect it as such. Do not make a sideshow of yourself. We do not have to prove ourselves to anyone. Appearing on public TV to tell the world that you drink blood is useless attention-getting. It gets a negative reaction for the whole community. Our place is in the shadows; our greatest protection from small-minded humanity is the fact that they do not believe we exist. Someday they may be ready for us to reveal ourselves to them, but that time is not now.
Do not hide from your nature, but never show it off to those who won't understand.

2. DIVERSITY
Our paths are many, even though the journey we are on is essentially the same. No single one of us has all the answers to who and what we are. Respect everyone's personal views and practices. We cannot let petty differences of ideology prevent us from maintaining a unified community; there are enough who would attack us from the outside.
Our diversity is our strength. Let our differences in viewpoint enrich us but never divide us amongst ourselves.

3. SAFETY
Use sense when indulging your nature. Do not flaunt what you are in public places. Feed in private and make certain your donors will be discrete about what happens between you. Donors who create rumors and gossip about us are more harm than they're worth. If you engage in blood-letting, put safety and caution above all other things. Blood-born diseases are a very real thing, and we cannot risk endangering ourselves or others through irresponsibility. Screen donors carefully, making certain they are in good health both mentally and physically.
Never overindulge or get careless. The safety of the entire community rests upon each member's caution.

4. CONTROL
We cannot and should not deny the darkness within. Yet we should not allow it to control us. If our beast or shadow or darkside is given too much sway, it clouds our judgement, making us a danger even to those we love. Never indulge in pointless violence. Never bring willful harm to those who sustain you. Never feed only for the sake of feeding, and never give over to mindless bloodlust.
We are not monsters: we are capable of rational thought and self-control. Celebrate the darkness and let it empower you, but never let it enslave your will.

5. LIFESTYLE
Live your life as an example to others in the community. We are privileged to be what we are, but power should be accompanied by responsibility and dignity. Explore and make use of your vampire nature, but keep it in balance with material demands. Remember: we may be vampires, but we are still a part of this world. We must live lives like everyone else here: holding jobs, keeping homes, and getting along with our neighbors.
Being what we are is not an excuse to not participate in this reality. Rather, it is an obligation to make it a better place for us to be.

6. FAMILY
We are, all of us, a family, and like all families, various members will not always get along. However, respect the greater community when having your disputes. Do not let your individual problems bring emotional strife to the family as a whole. Settle your differences quietly among one another, only seeking out an elder's aid in mediation when no other solution seems possible. Never bring your private disputes into public places and never draw other family members into the issue by forcing them to take sides.
Like any normal family, we should always make an effort to present a stable and unified face to the rest of the world even when things are not perfect between us.

7. HAVENS
Our havens are safeplaces where everyone in the community can come to socialize. There are also often public places where we are likely to encounter people who don't understand our ways. We should respect the patrons of these places as we should also respect the owners of the establishments and always be discrete in our behavior. We should never bring private disputes into a haven. We should never initiate violence in a haven. And we should never do or bring anything illegal into a haven, as this reflects badly upon the community as a whole.
The haven is the hub of the whole community, and we should respect it as such, supporting it without business and working to improve its name in the community so that we can always call it home.

8. TERRITORY
The community is extensive and diverse. Every city has a different way of doing things, and a different hierarchy of rule. When entering a new city, you should familiarize yourself with the local community. Seek out the local havens. Learn what households have sway here. Get in touch with key members of the community, learn who is who, and show proper respect where it is due. You should not expect to impose your old way of doing things on this new community. Rather you should adapt to their rules and be glad of their acceptance.
Always be on your best behavior when coming to a new city either to visit or to stay. We are all cautious and territorial by nature, and only by making the most positive impression possible will you be accepted and respected in a new community.

9. RESPONSIBILITY
This lifestyle is not for everyone. Take care in who you choose to bring into it. Those who are mentally or emotionally unstable have no place among us. They are dangerous and unreliable and may betray us in the future. Make certain that those you choose to bring in are mature enough for this burden. Teach them control and discretion, and make certain that they respect our ways.
You will be responsible for their actions, and their behavior in the community will be reflected back to you.

10. ELDERS
There are certain members of our community who have established themselves as just and responsible leaders. These are the people who helped establish local communities, who organize havens, and who work to coordinate the networking of our culture. While their word does not have to be law, they should nevertheless be respected. They have greater experience than many others, and usually greater wisdom. Seek these elders out to settle your disputes, to give you guidance and instruction, and to help you establish yourself in the local community.
Appreciate the elders for all they have given you: if it was not for their dedication, the community would not exist as it does now.

11. DONORS
Without those who offer themselves body and soul to us, we would be nothing. We cannot be other than what we are, but it is the donors who sustain our nature. For this service, they should be respected. Never mistreat your donors, physically or emotionally. They are not to be manipulated or leeched off of for more than what they freely offer. Never take them for granted. Appreciate them for the companionship and acceptance which they offer us, which so many others would refuse. This above all: appreciate the gift of their life. That communion is sacred. Never fail to treat it as such.
12. LEADERSHIP
When you choose to take a position of authority in the community, remember that you do not lead for yourself alone. Leadership is a responsibility, not a privilege. A good leader must set an example for everyone through his actions and behavior. His motives should be selfless and pure, and he should put the interests of the whole community before his own.
The best leaders are those who serve to better the community and whose person and behavior gives no one -- even those outside of the community -- a reason to criticize them. They must strive to be above reproach.

13. IDEALS
Being a vampire is not just about feeding upon life. That is what we do, but not necessarily what we are. It is our place to represent darkness in a world blinded by light. We are about being different and accepting that difference as something that empowers us and makes us unique. We are about accepting the dark within ourselves and embracing that darkness to make us whole beings. We are about celebrating the thresholds: body and spirit, pleasure and pain, death and life.
Our lives should be lived as a message to the world about the beauty of accepting the whole self, of living without guilt and without shame, and celebrating the unique and beautiful essence of every single soul.


I'm not looking for debate but enlightened discussion. Enjoy.
Azriela
I think that these are rules that are unspoken in the Vampiric community . . things that are upheld without a thought to humanity.

What were you hoping to discuss about it?
Liod
Well hi there, BlackFyre, long time no see. :)
Vore
You joined then and your postcount is that? LOL Hey BF...

Yeah...rules rules rules....

To me it works like this:

Intelligent- Doesn't need written dogma to form own life philosophies or methods of mutualy beneficial survival.

A bit slow to stupid: Give me an instruction booklet...I have this life and I don't know how it works!
BlackFyre
QUOTE (Vore @ Dec 17 2004, 12:08 AM)
You joined then and your postcount is that? LOL Hey BF...

Yeah...rules rules rules....

To me it works like this:

Intelligent- Doesn't need written dogma to form own life philosophies or methods of mutualy beneficial survival.

A bit slow to stupid: Give me an instruction booklet...I have this life and I don't know how it works!
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Heh Yeah I hold the record for the oldest active member with the lowest post count.
:devillol:

As for whoever asked what I had intended to discuss, I had hoped to get people's views of the Black Veil and thier interpetations in modern society.

P.S. to who whoever moved this topic: It was Sire's suggestion that it go into Arcane :icon7: :-P
Daemon Necromorbus
why would you post the rules? i dont see the point of this thread. maybe cause I havent slept in two days... :icon7:
NightSky
While I agree that the majority of these "rules" are good guidelines to keep in mind, I think that many of them sort of contradict the "DIVERSITY" rule. While the Diversity rule encourages individuality among everyone, the other rules seem to be pushing us into the same basic mold of what we "should be".

I absolutely agree with rule #1, and that is the one thing that I believe we should all consider a rule rather than a guideline. There is no need to flaunt what we are to a world that doesn't understand what it all means.

Almost all of these rules seem to be promoting us as a community, which I suppose that is what we are, but is it trying to impose upon us an obligation to join others of our kind and become part of a community? I always viewed part of the essence of vampirism as independence. Being out and on your own, following instinct as well as desire, without being held to any sort of group.

Does anyone here agree or disagree that one of the wonderful things of vampirism is the ability to be independent and live life as simply as possible by simply living it? I'm not saying of course that this gives us license to be irresponsible, but by our own terms and ways of life...
NightSky
QUOTE (Vore @ Dec 16 2004, 08:08 PM)
You joined then and your postcount is that? LOL Hey BF...

Yeah...rules rules rules....

To me it works like this:

Intelligent- Doesn't need written dogma to form own life philosophies or methods of mutualy beneficial survival.

A bit slow to stupid: Give me an instruction booklet...I have this life and I don't know how it works!
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((By the way, Vore, you are gorgeous! blink.gif ))
Miramar
I ........ahhh........ never got throught the second paragraph.I know I know, I deserve to be beaten repeatedly with a sledge hammer.
I would have read it ......... if it wasn't so torturously boring. Who wants to read about vampire rules anyway. Get a F@#$ing hobby. :blowup:
NightSky
QUOTE (LORDMIRAMAR @ Dec 18 2004, 09:50 PM)
I ........ahhh........ never got throught the second paragraph.I know I know, I deserve to be beaten repeatedly with a sledge hammer.
I would have read it ......... if it wasn't so torturously boring. Who wants to read about vampire rules anyway. Get a F@#$ing hobby. :blowup:
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Well Darling if you're not interested, then don't leave a post. And as far as your "Get a f@#$ing hobby" comment goes, I suggest you find hobbies outside of leaving useless insulting posts about something you have no interest in. Just an idea...
dark_hole
hey, well those rules were very enlightening. i always wondered what sort of things vampires were supposed to not do. ive been considering becoming a vampire when im a bit older as im only 15 now, or maybe just a donor at first. how would i og abou that sort of thing is i did choose to?
well keep happy people! :yikes000:
NightSky
QUOTE (dark_hole @ Dec 21 2004, 11:38 AM)
hey, well those rules were very enlightening. i always wondered what sort of things vampires were supposed to not do. ive been considering becoming a vampire when im a bit older as im only 15 now, or maybe just a donor at first. how would i og abou that sort of thing is i did choose to?
well keep happy people! :yikes000:
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Just curious, why is it you would like to be a vampire when you are older? I'm pretty sure that most of us who live a vampiric lifestyle are either already born with vampiric tendencies and needs engraved in them, or come to require this sort of lifestyle. Seems like it's an absolute choice for you rather than need which is fine, I'm just curious what makes you want to live such an unorthodox and often difficult way of life.
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