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necroGhostz
sometimes it's hard seeing a loved one die. thats why some of us learn to bring them back. my brothers and i are such cases. we are constantly being prejudiced against. why do people hate us because of our abilities? furthermore, why do people think necromancy is just divination? i've found out through personal experiances that it can do a whole lot more. if there are any people interested in learning what else this "forbidden magic" can do, please let me know.


sincerely curious,
kchal onak navrim
Hyldon the Vampire
Ummmm... This is interesting.... I'm not into stuff like this, but it interested....
Throne777
Good or evil. Good and evil can never be defined as it's subjective. Also, one can't exist without the other.
About your ability to raise the dead. Riiight.

'we are constantly being prejudiced against'

Well if you go around claiming to have raised your loved ones from the graves do you honestly expect to be treated as a normal member of society?
Daemon Necromorbus
Good or evil?
Its impossible, it doesnt matter if its good or evil if its impossible.
Divine Sin
Nothing good can come of this supposed "raising" the dead...IF its possible at all. Now some cultures believe that the spirits of recently deceased linger on this earthly demension and that if one's love is great enough, they can hold that deceased person's soul and bind it to this plane/realm a bit longer than would be normal.

Thats about the extent of it. Ain't no pet cemetary here. The closest to raising the dead u get here is the living dead.
Rhuen
Nercomancy is the weakest form of magic next to illusionists, One can not raise a sould. necromancy deals with the displaced energies of the dead rather it be the energy from the body or the rement energy that takes the form of the concoiusness it was part of in life "ghost".

I get hassled by society at large if I just tell people I am intellegent, now imagine going around in this christian based culture claiming to raise the dead.

If not for the laws of this country in this day and age alot of people would be attacked by their zeolot neighbors "I know I would be". And I don't go around bragging about my mystical skills I only give advice "which can be seen as bragging from a certain stand point though".

as for being persecuted, unless your being stoned, hanged, thumb screwed, stuck on the rack, not allowed to have a job "not that raising the dead should ever come up in a job interview" ect.. than your not being persecuted "harrassed maybe" but not persecuted.
necroGhostz
as to if we can or cannot raise the dead..... you'll never know until someone shows proof. as to necromancy being one of the weakest forms of magic, try it then speak, until then you cant be sure of that. as to anything being impossible, i can argue to that due to the fact i "suffer" for lack of a better word from lupis and leukemia both of which i should be dead from. the individual who posted the last topic was one of seven different "priests" who visited me on my hospital bed as i lay dying. i had a lot of doubts as to the effectiveness of his skills, but after doing something odd, he left me. shortly thereafter i recovered. it was as if by miricle. last night he went to the hospital with a terminal case of leukemia and is not expected to live. today i will be going to the hospital to help. if you can do better than he, then feel free to hope .
Sekushi Cho
QUOTE (necroGhostz @ Dec 8 2004, 02:33 AM)
sometimes it's hard seeing a loved one die. thats why some of us learn to bring them back. my brothers and i are such cases. we are constantly being prejudiced against. why do people hate us because of our abilities? furthermore, why do people think necromancy is just divination? i've found out through personal experiances that it can do a whole lot more. if there are any people interested in learning what else this "forbidden magic" can do, please let me know.  
      sincerely curious,
                    kchal onak navrim
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Hmm.... this reminds me of Full Metal Alchemist in a way. Either way, if you study or practice necromancy, you will be prejudiced against only because of the fear the human race has of the dead. Ghost stories, games like Resident Evil, and people like necrophiliacs, who have sex with corpses, are just some of the things resposible. Anything related to the dead, such as El dia de los Muertos, The Day of the Dead, in Mexico and Latin America, is usually frowned upon, especially in the US, basically because of ignorance or misunderstanding. Yet where it is celebrated, it is the opposite of evil, and simply a festive gathering to honor those in the afterlife, sometimes in hopes of even being able to communicate with a lost loved one. Uhg.... I have the feeling that I've left something out...
Rhuen
QUOTE (necroGhostz @ Dec 9 2004, 02:56 PM)
as to if we can or cannot raise the dead..... you'll never know until someone shows proof. as to necromancy being one of the weakest forms of magic, try it then speak, until then you cant be sure of that. as to anything being impossible, i can argue to that due to the fact i "suffer" for lack of a better word from lupis and leukemia both of which i should be dead from. the individual who posted the last topic was one of seven different "priests" who visited me on my hospital bed as i lay dying. i had a lot of doubts as to the effectiveness of his skills, but after doing something odd, he left me. shortly thereafter i recovered. it was as if by miricle. last night he went to the hospital with a terminal case of leukemia and is not expected to live. today i will be going to the hospital to help. if you can do better than he, then feel free to hope .
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When it comes to magic I speak from experience, necromancy is weak, in that it lacks any real usefulness and lacks any real control factors.
as for the "preist" you mentioned that wasn't necromancy "if thats what you were trying to imply" necromancy is strictly speaking summoning, manipulating the dead and the remnants of the dead nothing more. That would be healing magic that man used not necro "death" mancy "manipulation/useing".

death brings death that is the one true law of necromancy. it has no other use than cause death, illness, and suffering. Summoning ghosts, spirits, all the children's toys and common thought necromancy is strong but compared to other magics it is the weakest.

just as the house cat is the weakest cat but that doesn't change the fact that it is a killer by nature with razer sharp claws and fangs.
Luciferion
QUOTE (necroGhostz @ Dec 8 2004, 04:33 AM)
sometimes it's hard seeing a loved one die. thats why some of us learn to bring them back. my brothers and i are such cases. we are constantly being prejudiced against. why do people hate us because of our abilities? furthermore, why do people think necromancy is just divination? i've found out through personal experiances that it can do a whole lot more. if there are any people interested in learning what else this "forbidden magic" can do, please let me know. 
      sincerely curious,
                    kchal onak navrim
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Modern necromancy has been watered down over centuries from true necromancy.. a serious Scolar can tell you this.
passingover
QUOTE (necroGhostz @ Dec 8 2004, 09:33 AM)
sometimes it's hard seeing a loved one die. thats why some of us learn to bring them back. my brothers and i are such cases. we are constantly being prejudiced against. why do people hate us because of our abilities? furthermore, why do people think necromancy is just divination? i've found out through personal experiances that it can do a whole lot more. if there are any people interested in learning what else this "forbidden magic" can do, please let me know. 
      sincerely curious,
                    kchal onak navrim
*


For many of the people I know they would be very scared if I said I communicated with the dead, I can only imagine how bad it would be if someone claimed to physically (or spiritually) be able to raise them in some visible form.

Even sometimes with "regular" people if you say it as "I saw <dead person> in a dream, and they said <this> ". They will often ask you not to say anything more about it (or you will see that they get extremely nervious). Part of it is that it brings up a lot of conflicting emotions, the other part is that it is against many peoples' beleifs. I've seen this. Note this seems to be your reasoning for doing what you do, but for some this is reason NOT to want to do it. They want to leave things alone.

Necromancy itself, it has a lot of different menaings to different people. As mentioned many differences between times as well. For some people, it simply means "black magick" -> which translates into just about anything when translated further.

I'm largely with you though. I feel strongly that you can "raise" a soul. Actually more that the soul "raises" what it wants to. That you can change things with help from both the "dead" and the "living". But I do think it is very foolish to think that everyone out there shares your same deesires and will allow you to manipulate them without cost. For those that think that, I don't know what to say really. I don't consider myself a necromancer though...
NightVision
Necromancy, if such a thing is possible, is an act of HUGE disrespect. If we see death as freedom from earthly ties, then why take it upon yourself to tie people back to the earth again? It's selfish.

I can understand that in grief it is an overriding wish, to bring someone back, but ultimately you are not thinking of the person's wellbeing, you are thinking of your own feelings.

If they wish to come back to tell you something, they will, in dreams perhaps, or in other ways; but if not...leave them alone.
tracla
i myself think that necromancy is impossible, but then mabey thats cause i believe in reincarnation. if one is reincarnated than you cant bring back thier soul, it already has a body, and if you have the original body than you might get so might get something else other than them. but than what would it be? a demon, an angel, mabey even some kinda animal spirit or mabey another person. but whatever you do get, their is a very small chance in getting someone back from the dead. plus the body might rot a bit before you accomplish your goal and they would die again in a very painful way, and i doubt you would want to do that to a loved one.
Greater Deity
Let me put it this way: "Not Recommended" (The Earthly Dead are best left... dead.)
Miramar
I just read the top post, The dead is not evil, they're just dead. As for the act being or evil. That soley depends on the necromancers reasons.
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