In the Divine Law, there are rules. With these rules great power and knowledge are attached. Holy Discipline is bound to be installed from the use and obedience of these rules. However, I have found something amiss in my spirit, slowly but surely guiding me astray from Perfect Ascension. God is telling me some type of information, and for the first time in my life... I have found myself unable to understand. If anyone can say or better yet do, anything to assist me, I will make a most honorable request, such that you be rewarded for your kindness. Thank you.

What excactly is it you need help with?

I'm drawing a blank too, what exactly are you asking for here? the topic isn't exactly cut and dry and has many avenues to work with so you need to be specific as to what aspect you need help with.

I'm largely with the others, it almost seems like you are pulling a Nebuchadnezzar here... ;)

But I think I can follow what you are saying and asking for somewhat? And I guess should at least try to help. It might have to do with the nature of the information you recieve. In the same way that when you speak to others about things, even when it seems clear to you and they do not understand, it can be that you may not understand what is given to you and for largely the same reasons. The reason is that the truth given to you is something which is not yet largely you - something which you have experienced - or perhaps even have enough of a reference to be able to comprehend or begin to follow yet. It happens a lot to me and I only see it in hindsight then. Just by being open to it and ready to explore it, you should be prepared to understand when you become compatible with that which is given to you in advance of your understanding.

I like the way you understand that knowledge and "power" come with adherence to natural laws/god and how you seem to realize that change is taking place as you progress. If I can do anything to assist you in a greator way, may it happen at once. But I would think it would be more likely, just like the others, if you would share more and say more things.... take care.

Divine laws are real. You hurt someone they hurt you back. You can addmit your flaws and hurt someone else. They will in turn hurt you back. It can go on and on and on where someone really isn't understanding the pain they inflict on others and hurt an innocent. A innocent may have their first experience with evil beyond what they can absorb and commit crimes of great magnitude against the world because their world is jaded with an understanding all people are evil. This reflects on society creating a chain reaction of lies, deceit, theft, poverty, hostility, depravity and death keeping the chain going. Each person has the ability to react and keep the chain going or dismiss it. However, in doing so may remove themselves, effectively, from the world.

I believe that is the law of Karma u speak of....

I personally disagree with most models for Karma, and the way they supposedly work, due to alot experimentation with "black magick" ( I know, I know, "we" don't like labeling magick, but it's the western way), but cause and effect, is a different thing.

Anyways I think "Greater's" problem, is straying from a pious and humble lifestyle perhaps, or coming to the realization that the world of sin is restriction!

The journey to levels of higher-consciousness, or reuniting with the source/God, are very rocky paths I'm afraid, but if it's what you sternly believe in, then remain adamant.

If you're channeling/receiving commands (Or "information", in this case) from a "higher-power", double check the source. Is it really "God"? Even God might need to endure trial! This is some good advice on checking out your HGA, which is some models, is "God", I think it might help.



If it checks out, and you need advice, or help, feel free to cotanct me personally at OminousDemagogue@aol.com

~Casimir

Yes, the earth, as I have inherited it, is a restriction to ascension. Meaning earth/flesh such that ascension is capsuled inside these elements. Before, I had grown to dislike the earth, full of its iniquity and chaotic hatred; I found the desire to leave earth, as a result finding a greater subquadrant place. I do believe I know what has happened to me, I dont see the earth clearly anymore. Many aspects are now misconstrued, distorted...
I made an attempt not to correspond with the earth, and I do believe that I have been punished. I didnt know at that time interval before, that God was actually speaking to my spirit; when I thought of it as my mind attempting to sway me afar. He in fact, was saying that I should appreciate not only the beautiful, but the foul parts of the earth as well; that there, in foulness is room for beauty(truth) to grow. I failed to listen however, and for that, in failing to appreciate the earth when it was commanded as a rule of me, I have been punished. I am spiritually blind to earth ( and all therein it), vulnerable, practically incapable of defending myself from elements of iniquity: temptation, hatred, wretchedness, unrighteousness, evil. I am impeccably lost. I am now confused, and in confusion powerless, not knowing what to do next...

I question this, seems there is more than meets the Eyes here maybe.


It seems clear (so it probably isn't at all) then. You are defenseless because you are being made to deal with that which you ran from and avoided. Your own words. That which you avoid represents that which can grow. It seems that you are supposed to do this. That you don't, maybe you are not being punished, just directed but it is that you take this as a punishment (showing that you have not yet absorbed the direction set yet) The old defense mechanisms do not work, so that you can accomplish that which you are supposed to accomplish. If I see it right, you don't need to defend yourself from them, you are the one whio is supposed to seek them and change/absorb them. You see the earth as restriction, but it is opportunity.

Now you already helped me somewhat, but if I helped you even slightly, will you consider helping me with something? I am looking for information on a particular angel that was used once in an older piece of literature, however they are hardly discussed or referenced before that work and so I run into dead ends with it. Do you think you might be able to help ?

Yes, I may be of some sort of assistance to you. However, there are some "angels/archangels" that I am not allowed to speak of.

Additonal notes:
You know things... several. I will ponder upon what you have said, if it were out of thine heart. To possible expedite my clarification, I was simply saying, that it seems to me, that God isnt listening anymore, as if now, that space in the sky, in my heart that was once filled with the spirit is now void, as if nothing is there. This all of a sudden occured, and that is why I am appalled. This is why I feel lost or disturbed as if something were amiss. There is definitely something amiss however, its as if I am unable to talk to "The Father" anymore, or such that action, he isnt listening! This questioning, which shouldnt be executed however, is what caused my confusion. The questioning...

I don't think I know all that much, just some small things.

You feel isolated from god because of your lack of faith? You don't think he listens but then communication is two ways. A person has to listen in order to hear a response, if someone speaks and does not ever listen, they will always feel ignored even when they weren't, for how could anything else be ? I don't know now you have me confused a bit. You know the answer to your questions already it seems. But it is good just to go through what you say. That is why I say that you help me already.



Thank you very much for your response. If you think you can help, please contact me at passingover@excite.com (you can't send - or recieve? -Private Messages yet under this id). Please just go ahead and share what you know about the one I am asking about (the best way to do this). It is personal and a curiousity to me because of something that happened once in relation to this this name. I have found a lot of earlier works on this one, but still I can tell that things are hidden and a lot is just not available. Now I am prone to a sort of gnostic interpretation of this incident, siort of that it is a dualistic aspect... on one side side light, the other darkness. Two different manifestations of the same (?). When they clash lightening develops by the conflicting energies and directions. I don't know for sure though. But sometimes I feel like you - confused, yet I know much mroe than I let on to myself often. It is jsut that I do not listen sometimes. Wierd, eh? If you can help futher, please do, I certainly won't turn you away.

I have been away for quite some time. To return the subject however... What angel were you speaking of?

Welcome back. :)

I don't do things like that either when it is in detail (like that). I did a few times in the past (privately), but i don't any longer because people either tend not to beleive me or ultimately it is as if i placed a burden on them and hurt them. I am not comfortable at all expressing such things so outright anyway. I'm kind of secretive....

If you want to help though and think you can, I can send you a picture of something partially obscured. If you (alone) can figure out the name/link from that, then I would not feel I was making a mistake nor doing anything wrong. If you think you can help, email me at the given address or leave some contact means/permission and I will send it to you and we'll see from there...

If not, that's okay, anyway, it was good to hear what you said in this thread already. I liked it.

Well, since I am unable to PM you. EncaasmeemIO@yahoo.com

Why do I have the strangest feeling that I know the two of you?

Anyway...

Did you find what you were seeking? (Both of you.)

If not is there some way, even small, that I can help?

:) Will fire it off in the morning.... but i need to get some sleep first. The PM thing is only temporary. I like email better anyway, more used to it.




Thank you very much, you are very nice to offer that and i am grateful. :) I will keep your offer in mind for the future. I think we can all help each other in some way-- it is nice to see things moving in that direction.

I cant help to believe that you just might know me...

Passingover,

You are most welcome.. and please yes keep it in mind. :) I agree that we all can help eachother and it is very nice to feel and see that energy around. :thumbup: Especially in the world that we occupy at the moment... seems few even remember to even smile anymore.




For both of you since one of you cannot PM yet ;)

*****@hotmail.com

on topic:

There is a belief that meditation is the key to many things. Guidance comes when we listen.

I agree there are universal laws, some I feel I know, others I believe I know but don't understand yet and still more that I have yet to find within all the noise the world can produce. Silencing the world in order to really see it and hear it I think is a major challenge for most... but also one of the most important things one can do.

Another is to remember to smile and show mercy,compassion and forgiveness. At least I feel it is.

Emotions and Pride:

It is highly unusual for someone my age to express my views on a forum over the internet. At first, I thought that the idea of doing this was completely folly. There are those who disagree with much of the things that I say, when I have at least even attempted to render my sources. I know many things, that I am unable to give sources for; that is only so, because I am the direct source of that information. I have scanned the posts that I have made in this forum, and I have detected hostility and pride in the tone of my context. Somehow, I have closed my mind to what I know in some sort; confirming that I know many things, upon what others say, I could superciliously say that I know better. However, that is not they way I should be. I have found myself to be proud, and with pride failure is returned. Pride in what I know has given me shame, because I have not only downsized under myself my fellow brethen here, but I have done it in boldness! To tell you the truth, I really dont know what to say about this. My spirit vaguely speaks to me saying to, " be quiet, meek, and still." Due to enlightment of my actions, perhaps that is what is recommended of me. If I have offended anyone here, I beg you of your forgiveness. I have one more revelation for you: All of your hearts are seeking for knowledge. Let the knowledge come to you, dont go scouraging for it; for knowledge is already here. On the other hand, enjoy life on this beautiful earth as best you can, for the remainder of the earthly it is past due. May the Holy Spirit extend its great power, and fill the void of our souls with its Love and Grace. God bless you all, and goodbye.

Being able to aknowledge such a thing is a good sign towards true enlightenment.

"Humble is even the Lion before the gods"
quote: the Dark man "somewhere else most likely but thats where I heard it"

in fact keeping with the topic Humbleness is something mentioned in just about every religeon and as such I think could be thought of as a devine rule.

In fact almost none of the greatest religous founders called themselves gods or claimed such things but their followers changed the beliefs and made it so like Buddha.

"The trick is showing great intellegence with out showing great pride."
quote: My reflection

You seem nice enough. It's alright to make mistakes particularly if you learn form them and go from there. I can't say that I have any problems with you at all.

About the sources, it is understood. If all anyone was able to say had to be backed up by some internet link or some published work by some accredeted scholar, things would get very dull and we would be nothing but parrots. In my eyes simply saying "this is from personal experience" is enough... and if you wish to talk further on it, so much the better.

The email address you gave me bounced, for whatever reason. But oddly just in composing the message and looking into it from a new perspective than when I last attempted this, i found a lot of answers (but not all), or they just came to me you could say. So in a way you still helped me with that too. So thank you again for your presence, which did help. Good luck finding your answers.... the ones which you really need.

Greater_diety, you speak what you seek..



perhaps your sight has drifted from the reflection to the mirror? Or maybe not drifted...expanded?

#skipping peoples posts#
Divine laws, you mean things like PHI?