White Lily
Nov 21 2004, 10:50 PM
Hello. I stumbled upon this place after doing some research. It seems a great many people here have a lot more knowledge than I, so please, if anyone is willing to tell me anything, please do.
As of now, I have come to realize that I have become a victim of psychic vampirism after extensive reading in a book I purchased. It happens a couple times a month. I wake up, and instantly feel as if someone is in the room. At times I can see a black shadow of a figure, and hear a echo of voices. I also feel a pressure on my chest, as if someone was touching me. It feels like a dream, but I know that I am awake...and then eventually I fall back asleep.
What confuses me the most is why it reoccurs so often. And, for those of you who practice this vampirism, do you choose your victims...how do you come upon preying off of them? I do not understand why anyone would choose to do this, but if anyone would be so kind as to enlighten me, I am open.
False Prophet
Nov 21 2004, 11:00 PM
When i feed i rarely choose the same person more then once unless i have their consent. It sounds like they have some grudge perhaps with you. Most of the time feeding from someone doesnt bother them much. But if you are repeaditly fed from in short periods of time it can become quite a problem. If you would like to try some shielding techniques try this site.
Shielding 101I hope i have helped and if you have any other questions feel free to ask.
Feeder_Of_Life
Nov 21 2004, 11:03 PM
Step 1 through 11, learn to sheild. Hopefully if it was an extensive book that described attacks like that, I'm sure it has some good methods of helping you fend off youre friend. As far as victim choosing, there have been times when I had feed on random people before and remembered it quite clearly in my sleep, but had no idea why I chose that victim. See, when feeding occurs, it will create a link, they can be severed, but they can be grown stronger, and larger also. Odds are, you know the names of 20 psi vampires, and know at least 1 personally. But wether or not they know what they are is a different matter. In other words, it may be subconcious. They formed a link with you from friendship, or any matter of connection with you, and may be feeding from you unintentionally in their sleep and not know that they are doing it. Of course, it may be someone who is holding a grugde, and doing it intentionally. But odds are, with attacks that intense, is most likely someone close to you. Dig for that same presence that you feel, not hear, or see, but feel when you are attacked. that should help you identify youre attacker.
White Lily
Nov 21 2004, 11:34 PM
Thank you for your replies. The Shielding 101 seemed veryuseful, thank you False Prophet...but I imagine it'll take some time for me to master the technique. Both of you said that it was possible someone had a grudge. I'm not aware of anyone who does, nor do I feel as if I know an actual "psi vampire". Maybe I'm wrong. And in reply to you, Feeder, what I feel when these attacks happen is not pleasant at all. The first time was a very haunting experience, and it still is...but now I know what they are. And btw, the book merely confirmed my suspicion that these werent simply "dreams".
One more question, do the people that you feed off of describe the sensation they receive? Were they at all similar to mine? I'm sorry if I'm asking too many questions, it's just, I don't know where else to go.
False Prophet
Nov 21 2004, 11:36 PM
Well ive never had one complain. The only time i can think youd feel uncomfortable from a feeding is if indeed they didnt realise they were doing it or they were doing it purposely to be uncomfortable.
Feeder_Of_Life
Nov 21 2004, 11:43 PM
If forced, it can be quite dramatic. Also the Feeder himself can control just what kind of symptoms you have. But generally, depending on how fed upon, each way has very similar and same symptoms felt by the donor, or victim. Whenever I fed from someone in a manner this person seems to be feeding from you, the vicitim said that it seemed like a spiritual rape in which she couldn't distinguish reality from a nightmare due to her fear. Beleive me though, she deserved it.
Anyways, as far as that feeling, you need to get more specific than that. Not an overall feeling you get from the situation, but a feel for the person himself. The "vibes" so to speak. See if you can find any sort of feeling from youre attacker that seems somewhat familiar to you and go from there.
White Lily
Nov 22 2004, 12:13 AM
I will try to describe this feeling as best I can. They vary each time in length, and sometimes I will wake up, and that will be it (as if it already happened). But, this person although it looks like a shadow more than anything, doesn't seem angry or vengeful...almost...indifferent, I suppose, but very forward as if it knows what it wants. Only once or twice have I felt as if this presence was toying with me...deliberately, such as standing by the bed, or reaching out. It has been more than several weeks since the last incident, so I am hoping the vampire has moved on.
Alexander Angellove
Nov 22 2004, 10:09 AM
Let's not get stuck on one ideea. What's she's describing is more like haunting than psi feeding. Sure, I feed too but I don't go projecting myself there, in front of my victim. Besides, no vampire can just feed on one person. Is illogical. Unless there is someone who wants to hurt you really bad. If so, then it's the first time I meet a Malkavian case - so far thought loonatic vampires were just a myth. My guess it's that might be a haunting case and I do want you to remember all the details about this thing. Sounds, images, smell, temperature of the room... anything. Also, try to find out more about the paranormal events in the area. This reminded me of a possesion case I solved about 2 years ago and seems somewhat similar.
Feeder_Of_Life
Nov 22 2004, 01:24 PM
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Sure, I feed too but I don't go projecting myself there, in front of my victim. Besides, no vampire can just feed on one person. Is illogical. Unless there is someone who wants to hurt you really bad. If so, then it's the first time I meet a Malkavian case - so far thought loonatic vampires were just a myth.
What are you talking about!? Can't feed on just one person! You've got to be kidding me, I thought you were smarter than that. Besides, you aren't even psi, Angellove, you are a human that tries to be by manipulating energy, that's it. I know people who have experienced the same thing due to my feeding from them. The plane that our life force, energy, exsists on knows no time, and knows no distance, so it's not exactly projecting yourself, but just thinking about the person you want to drain and draining them. The psi could make it a very lustful, and sexual experience for you, or it may just be a really good dream/nightmare. When you are awaken like that, and perhaps you've felt that crushing feeling on youre chest, its just downright psi animal instincts preying on you.
White Lily
Nov 22 2004, 11:17 PM
Interesting...very interesting. I've never properly looked into vampirism, nor did I consider the idea that those who practice it walk amongst us, until recently. I am quite intrigued. Thank you for this insight, and I hope to be part of this board as a person who wishes to learn more. Hope you don't mind a regular human such as myself lurking about ;)
EDIT: I almost forgot. Alexander, you believe this to be a haunting? I will consider this, and if this occurs again, I will try to remember everything that you said. Thank you for your advice.
False Prophet
Nov 22 2004, 11:20 PM
Of course not why would i? I myself believe me to be human but just with a vampiric soul so to speak. I am just a human with a few special needs ;)
Alexander Angellove
Nov 24 2004, 10:26 AM
F.o.L., you didn't read that right. I mean: it's boring to feed on only one person. You wouldn't do it, I wouldn't do it! NO ONE WOULD! So stop stepping on my toes and mind your own business. And stop being so rude! I didn't call you a poseur. I expect the same in return.
Oh, and you're welcome White Lily. If you need anything else, let me know.
Note: just because I talk nice, have a nice nickname and act like I'm from a fantasy comic-book, doesn't mean I'm faking it; it's just my passion and it's the way I see my psi existence, and I don't think I will offend directly anyone by saying: fuck everyone that doesn't like me! I'm here to help not to be liked!
Malbolsia
Nov 25 2004, 05:04 PM
This also sounds sorta like the "old Hag" Myth, Of a figure comming into the bed room at night, you wake and can't move with pressure on your chest, I'm not informed about this myth But I can look more into it and get back to you.
HellionBoy666
Nov 26 2004, 02:29 AM
QUOTE (White Lily @ Nov 21 2004, 08:50 PM)
Hello. I stumbled upon this place after doing some research. It seems a great many people here have a lot more knowledge than I, so please, if anyone is willing to tell me anything, please do.
As of now, I have come to realize that I have become a victim of psychic vampirism after extensive reading in a book I purchased. It happens a couple times a month. I wake up, and instantly feel as if someone is in the room. At times I can see a black shadow of a figure, and hear a echo of voices. I also feel a pressure on my chest, as if someone was touching me. It feels like a dream, but I know that I am awake...and then eventually I fall back asleep.
What confuses me the most is why it reoccurs so often. And, for those of you who practice this vampirism, do you choose your victims...how do you come upon preying off of them? I do not understand why anyone would choose to do this, but if anyone would be so kind as to enlighten me, I am open.
This is disturbing indeed. I have never heard of this kind of vampire, but they cannot be as disturbingly powerful as they sound...
From hearing this, I think of many things. Energy vampires either require feeding for euphoria or because they simply cannot feel complete without the energy of another surging through them. These vampires can't do any real harm, unless, as mentioned in the second post, repeted feeding occurs.
The sense of something being in the room comes from the presence of that vampires mind. His very soul is connecting with yours to feed off of the astral energies that you project. This should only be frightening at first. As soon as you realize this, use a sheilding technique. Or, be creative and discover your own method. I am a patron of visualization, thought, and the spoken word. These things, combined, should be enough to thwart even the most stalwart of any intruder.
If you practive magick, you may be accustomed to these methods or not. If you do not "know" how to visualize, do some researching. Not just on the net, in books, stores, personal interaction, anything. They say that the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step, and I believe that only through many ways of research will you find the true technique to this. Overall, I wish you good luch with your little "infestation". May the shadow of death protect you and
in pace requiscate.
White Lily
Nov 27 2004, 11:46 PM
Malbolsia, I have never heard of this "old hag" myth before, but I will be sure to look into it, thanks for bringing it to my attention. Could it be that some people mistook a psi vampire for an old hag? ;)
And HellionBoy, I thank you for your extensive elaboration. My encounters seem a bit less disturbing now that you've explained the why, what, and how. The same goes for all who have aided me with their wisdom.
Feeder_Of_Life
Nov 29 2004, 01:48 PM
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Malbolsia, I have never heard of this "old hag" myth before, but I will be sure to look into it, thanks for bringing it to my attention. Could it be that some people mistook a psi vampire for an old hag? ;)
Most references you can find in books relating to the old hag myth will point you right to Psi Vampirism. You can read about it in Konstantinos's book, Vampires: The Occult Truth but I wouldn't bother too much with his section on Psi Vamps, except the chapter he has on protection.
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F.o.L., you didn't read that right. I mean: it's boring to feed on only one person. You wouldn't do it, I wouldn't do it! NO ONE WOULD! So stop stepping on my toes and mind your own business. And stop being so rude! I didn't call you a poseur. I expect the same in return.
I didn't call you a poser, I don't beleive in posers. There shouldn't be specific rules that you must abide by in order to fit into a certain social group, you should just be yourself. I'm not trying to step on youre toes, Angellove. I've known you for a while, I'm just trying to make a strong point to you.
You have admitted in the past to me, and several others, that you were not born a psi, but you learned to drain from others, and thus became addicted to using that energy you drain. Now you take it way out of proportion.
You are not some immortal fantasy creature walking around cloaked in darkness, bearing the beauty to seduce and mortal you choose to feed from, so stop posting youre advice like we are. You're not some Vampire Ancient that came straight out of a Blade movie or something. That gives us a real bad image. Now like I said, I'll only call you out in public when you make absurd posts that lean towards that whole fantasy story thing, calling yourself an ancient, or elder or whatever, and also giving a post in one thread, than one that will contradict youre own words in another. That just goes to show just how seriously you take youre gift. um.. I mean acquired talent.
And no, I wouldn't continue to feed from the same person, I keep some variety as all Psi's must. However, I will not hesitate to visit a previous victims with Haunting nightmares, and night terrors if I feel I must. Perhaps for revenge, or my own sadisistic pleasures. Or perhaps I would like a target of mine to share an intimate moment with me in her sleep. Hence why a few people seemed to mention a grudge, because yes, it is rare to experience that. But you can ask a couple people that didn't hold my Vampirism very seclusive when they found out about it. Let's just say the dreams and nightmares where enough to make all their friends think they were insane with what they had to tell them after the night was through, which to my advantage, greatly discredited them. What she is going through, is something that I have often put many other's through.
HellionBoy666
Nov 29 2004, 09:50 PM
QUOTE (White Lily @ Nov 27 2004, 09:46 PM)
And HellionBoy, I thank you for your extensive elaboration. My encounters seem a bit less disturbing now that you've explained the why, what, and how. The same goes for all who have aided me with their wisdom.
You're very welcome ^_^! Something my mind refused to register in my last post was that there was more than one way to do this. Since some people don't visulize, they often repeat mantra's in order to aquire the same effect. It's useful in the begining, but I suggest working with visualization as much as possible. If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask. I'm sure everyone here is still willing to give their advice.
HellionBoy666
Nov 29 2004, 09:54 PM
QUOTE (Alexander Angellove @ Nov 22 2004, 08:09 AM)
Let's not get stuck on one ideea. What's she's describing is more like haunting than psi feeding. Sure, I feed too but I don't go projecting myself there, in front of my victim.
This could also be true. Instead of a psychic vampire, who feeds on your personal energy, could it be an empathic vampire, feeding off of the primordial energy released by the emotion fear? I'm sorry that I missed this post earlier ^_^'''. In that case, just feel confident, and the occurances should start deminishing. Juggle both ideas and see wich one works the most. Of course, it never hurts to throw up a shield anyways.
Aeon
Dec 11 2004, 02:43 AM
Yes, listen to HellionBoy666, it's not about hiding... They probably want more than your energy, maybe they have a personal attachment to your flesh as well? It could be someone you are somehow romantic with, or a strong entity that loves you... To death.
But visualize, you can also befriend or recognize them in the way they are recognizing you... I'm pretty sure it'll give them delight as well, I doubt these 'attacks' are unpleasurable or harmful to you in a way you couldn't get what you want and need out of it as well.
(Oh, it sounds like they know what they are doing... But some people aren't exactly aware of the tendencies they have, thus they can't really control the desire and ability yet with you. Some people just suck...Enjoy it!
Best of Luck to you!
Puppet_116
Dec 14 2004, 07:35 AM
any one mind if i stick my nose in here? ok nice, ok first off i'll start by saying i dont know exactly what i am, i can use prana, take it in from my surroundings, nature and people, i can also project it into others, but thats from practice and training, i do believe what the nice people who responded to my post not so long ago said about me being empathic, i can sense peoples emotions just by being in the same room as them. their emotions effect me and mine effect them, i do seem to need to take in a good deal of prana a day usualy about 30 minutes to an hours worth of meditation and drawing it in, so what ever this makes me, stick a lable on me and put me on a shelf, thats just back ground info for what i am about to say, the haunting idea, yes, i think this would be a good idea to research on, try and remember how cold or hot the room was, your body temp, did the pressure in your chest feel hot, cold, numb tingling, are you sure you were awake or were you having a waking dream? a friend of mine has a house thats pretty active, any where from 2-10 spirits in it at any given time, they will flicker the light switch, the switch not just the light, you can see one jog up and down the hall way, feel them watching you as you go down the hall, past doors, photographs, she even has one in her kitchen that will spray the sink water in your face, you can laugh but its true, but each one has a differnt feel to it, the room temp will drop not so cold as you can see your breath, but so its noticible, pins and needles in some of your limbs, a smell, all these are good indications, of a possible haunting, spirits can also cause some pretty life like dreams.....i admire your desire to find the root of this and i hope you find your answer, i just wanted to poke in, feel free to E-mail or hit me on aim, my info is in my profile, i'm not so knowlegible on psi-vampirism but i can help you with possible haunting infromation i have done alot of research on that in the past
White Lily
Dec 14 2004, 10:46 PM
Vampire_Fate, your post was quite interesting. Although, I am unsure how I could befriend whatever it is that is causing these attacks. Did you mean I should look at them in a different light? I was a little confused about the "strong entity" bit. Perhaps you could elaborate more? Thank you ;)
And Puppet_116, of course I don't mind that you poke in. Any input, even if it is just about what you ate for breakfast, is welcome! Well...maybe not that far from topic, but you know what I mean. Though at the moment I am leaning more towards psi-vampirism, I will not doubt hauntings as a possibility. I never notice a drastic change in temperature. But the dreams, those are dead on. Just this week, I had the most vivid dream, and woke up with a pounding headache and I felt so tired and almost drained.
Aeon
Dec 14 2004, 11:42 PM
Lily,
So let's start here, I think you're still online. Do you have any clue who it could be?
White Lily
Dec 15 2004, 05:29 PM
QUOTE (Vampiress_Fate @ Dec 14 2004, 10:42 PM)
Lily,
So let's start here, I think you're still online. Do you have any clue who it could be?
I apologize, I must have logged off before I saw this post. Now back on topic...no I must say, I don't have any idea who it could be. I've gone through lists of each and every person I know personally, and none of them seem like they would be energy vampires. I told my sister, and she believes that I must have an overactive imagination, or that I am too sensitive. She is not very open-minded however, so I try not to consider her advice.
Aeon
Dec 16 2004, 12:17 AM
I wouldn't suggest you did. Unless you're driving yourself crazy, that's never good.
Being fed off of isn't so bad, it can be taxing. But hey, you're asleep. Are you having any bad side effects? I can't find any grudge inside me to think that this entity is harming you. Look at them, dollface, visualize them... What you know of them, and how you see them. And deal with it. It's not hard, and this is the only real way to get the outcome you need.
Mmkay? This is a stronger world than you realized... Welcome to it, I suppose. Don't be afraid. *kisses her cheeks*
If it comes down to it, pm me personally and we can talk more there.
White Lily
Dec 16 2004, 08:58 PM
Yes, it truly is a different, odd, but fantastic world. In response to the previous posts, I did try to put up a barrier, but perhaps this is not the best way. I've been so intent on putting an end to it all. Perhaps to understand something better, we need to face it, not avoid it. What a brilliant approach, and I thank you for it! ^^
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