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Sire
I'm doing some Titor research. I'll share links and a little information as I come across it. One of these are religion in the "future." The sabbath is Saturday, and the real 10 commandments are observed.

In researching what different commandments existed, I came across this.

These are God's real 10 commandments.
They are the only ones that were placed in the Ark of the Covenant.

You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall make for yourself no molten gods.
You shall keep the feast of unleaven bread.
You shall work for six days but on the seventh day you shall rest.
You shall observe the feast of weeks.
Three times a year you shall bring all your male children before the Lord.
You shall not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven.
Neither shall the feast of the Passover be left until the morning.
The first of the first fruits of your land shall be brought unto the house of the Lord your God.
You shall not boil a kid in its mother's milk.

The Lord felt his tenth commandment so important that beside being one of the ten commandments in Exodus 34:26, it is also mentioned in Exodus 23:19 and in Deuteronomy 14:21

One of the commandments Moses told his people was "You shall not kill" but God states unequivocally in Exodus 21:12-18 that people shall be put to death for such minor offenses as cursing their parents (Exodus 21:17) and that commandment was not written on the second set of tablets. God's rules of conduct can be learned by reading Exodus Chapters 21, 22 and 23. If you read carefully, you will find six of God's true commandments listed in Exodus 23:12-19; these were later inscribed on the second set of tablets that Moses took to God on Mount Sinai and then placed in the Ark of the Covenant. According to God, the second set of tablets are a duplicate of the first set of tablets that Moses broke (Exodus 34:1). Many people do not read with comprehension and thus depend on teachers and preachers who continue to carry on the deception by telling their flock that the set of ten commandments that Moses recited to his people are the only ones and that the preserved set of ten commandments that Moses placed in the Ark of the Covenant and carted around in the desert for 40 years never existed. Since the first set of tablets which many people think contained the commandments listed in Exodus Chap. 20 were destroyed and no longer exist, don't you ever wonder what commandments are in the ark that is mentioned in Revelation 11:19? Oh well, maybe you can fool all of the people all of the time.

Source: http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/guinea/734/ten-new.htm
Sire
And the second source:

The Ten Commandments of Moses (Deuteronomy 5:6-21, Exodus 20:3-16) run as follows--and I am even going out of my way to leave out the bounteous and blatantly-religious language that actually surrounds them in the original text, as well as the tacit approval of slavery present in the fourth commandment, none of which is even remotely suitable for political endorsement by a free republic:

1. Have no other gods before me [the God of the Hebrews].
2. Make no images of anything in heaven, earth or the sea, and do not worship or labor for them.
3. Do not vainly use the name of your God [the God of the Hebrews].
4. Do no work on the seventh day of the week.
5. Honor your parents.
6. Do not kill.
7. Do not commit adultery.
8. Do not steal.
9. Do not give false testimony against another.
10. Do not desire another's wife or anything that belongs to another.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/fea...0/carrier2.html

A comparison. 17 Commandments ?
http://home1.gte.net/deleyd/religion/tencommandments.html

Catholics omit the 2nd commandment ? Naw.
http://home1.gte.net/deleyd/religion/catholic1stcmd.html
Liod
The 17 commandments were very much alike in both versions, except for this:

"9. For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy."

versus

"9. Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and that the LORD your God brought you out of there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the LORD your God has commanded you to observe the Sabbath day."

They both explain the reason for the 7th day sabbath, but giving two completely different reasons.

From the 2nd, are we to assume he's mainly talking to the original Christians, the ones escaping alongside Moses, and their possible descendants? Where does that leave Christians from the rest of the world?

I'll read through the rest more thorough too, and get back to this. :)
abigale
Thank you for trying, "I know my Ten Commandments." You need to get an English Translated Torah or Tanahk. You see I've read the real Ten Commandment. "Thou Shall not Kill." Is Actually, "Thou Shall not Commit Murder." Murder is then descrived as being the act of killing another civilian with knowedge of killing them. An example is given. A man breaking into a home at night is killed. The man who killed them was unable to do otherwise. He is sentenced to exile outside the city, until the year of Jubilee. A man braking into a house at day is killed. The man who killed them should be able to defend himself without killing the theif. He is Guilty of Murder. A murderer should be be brought before Elders to be Judged. If he is Guilty, he must be killed quickly to stop is Sin from Poisoning the city.

Another tid bit is in Lev. It doesn't say, "Stone to Death." It says, "Stone them and exile them from the city." In this case, in order to walk away, they are still alive. It also has two levels of not sleeping with family members. You Father's second wife is as much your Mother as your birth Mother and all of his children as much her own as those who came from her own womb. Works the same the other way round. Also a child, chosen by a family to be an heir is as much their own flesh as the one conceived by a wife. Then it states it is a Sin for Mother's and Son's to see each other in their 'Nakedness.' Also Father's and Daughter's to see each other in their 'Nakedness.' As for any other members in the Uncle, Aunt, Father, Mother, Child relationship they should Both be "Stoned and Exiled."

Having sex with a virgin consenting or otherwise the man has to give gifts to the Father of the Woman since he may be overly obigated to her wellfare or Marry her. Only Priests have to marry virgins. Everyone else Does not have this prerequistite. Adam is as guilty as Eve for eating the apple. Having sex with any child or animal is punishable by stoning and their are only 2 reasons of being killed for sin. Murder and a Man marrying a Mother and Daugher. A man marrying a mother and daughter are burned to death on a stake. (Those are the 2 I know for sure.)
Azriela
Veyr interesting; now I have to go do some research . .
Methodus
QUOTE (Sire @ Nov 14 2004, 05:48 AM)
I'm doing some Titor research.  I'll share links and a little information as I come across it.  One of these are religion in the "future."  The sabbath is Saturday, and the real 10 commandments are observed.

In researching what different commandments existed, I came across this.

These are God's real 10 commandments.
They are the only ones that were placed in the Ark of the Covenant.

You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall make for yourself no molten gods.
You shall keep the feast of unleaven bread.
You shall work for six days but on the seventh day you shall rest.
You shall observe the feast of weeks.
Three times a year you shall bring all your male children before the Lord.
You shall not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven.
Neither shall the feast of the Passover be left until the morning.
The first of the first fruits of your land shall be brought unto the house of the Lord your God.


What a bunch of crap!!! Dont waste your time on Metaphorical bullshit!! :banana00:
You shall not boil a kid in its mother's milk.

The Lord felt his tenth commandment so important that beside being one of the ten commandments in Exodus 34:26, it is also mentioned in Exodus 23:19 and in Deuteronomy 14:21

One of the commandments Moses told his people was "You shall not kill" but God states unequivocally in Exodus 21:12-18 that people shall be put to death for such minor offenses as cursing their parents (Exodus 21:17) and that commandment was not written on the second set of tablets. God's rules of conduct can be learned by reading Exodus Chapters 21, 22 and 23. If you read carefully, you will find six of God's true commandments listed in Exodus 23:12-19; these were later inscribed on the second set of tablets that Moses took to God on Mount Sinai and then placed in the Ark of the Covenant. According to God, the second set of tablets are a duplicate of the first set of tablets that Moses broke (Exodus 34:1). Many people do not read with comprehension and thus depend on teachers and preachers who continue to carry on the deception by telling their flock that the set of ten commandments that Moses recited to his people are the only ones and that the preserved set of ten commandments that Moses placed in the Ark of the Covenant and carted around in the desert for 40 years never existed. Since the first set of tablets which many people think contained the commandments listed in Exodus Chap. 20 were destroyed and no longer exist, don't you ever wonder what commandments are in the ark that is mentioned in Revelation 11:19? Oh well, maybe you can fool all of the people all of the time.

Source: http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/guinea/734/ten-new.htm
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abigale
Don't hurry on that research or anything.

~ sigh ~

http://www.artscroll.com/stonetanach.html
dark_angel55
Very interesting
Rage_hunter51
I love how there is a "real" one now. Lets see if I can explain this....Man wrote the bible. No matter how you look at it MAN wrote the bible. The bible is like Windows for your computer. There are many different versions of the original. They all have their differences, yet they all do about the same thing. Just like Windows the bible has been translated so many times that some much of it was lost along the way (IE Windows XP has no DOS). Its like when you use to play Telephone in class. All the kids line up next to each other and the first one turns to the other and tells the person next to them a sentence. Everyone passes the sentence down the line and the last one says what they heard. Of course the sentence is totally different Then the original. The same thing has happened to the bible and it has been going on LONGER. People took out parts that they didn't like and didn't want to follow. They added other stuff that they felt should be in it.

I could honestly go on forever about this. I don't want to bore anyone more then I already have. PM me if you would like me to rant on more about it. I really need to get to work. Have fun.
Throne777
Thought you might find this interesting. You might also be interested to know that Joseph was most likely not a carpenter, it was just misenterpretated. I'll explain, the word that says that Joseph is a caprenter is 'naggar' (sp?), but, it can also be translated as 'learned man', or 'wise man'. This would make more sense as it never mentions Joesephs' skill as a carpenter anywhere in the Bible.
It has also been argued that Jesus not once said that he was the Son of God, it was just thought that way by the disciples, he was hyped up, coming to think of it I can't remember anytime that he has said that. Some of the things he has said could imply it, but it could be seen as something a priest would say like something along the lines of 'I am the way to God', it wouldn't seem out of place if a priest of holy man said that.
There were also over 40 books written for the New Testament, but only 4/6 got in, it was decided which ones were going in in 320 A.D. or somewhere around there. What's also interesting is that the main stories and miracles supposedly performed by Jesus were only mentioned in ONE of those books, John The Baptists. The raising of Lazarus, one the most famous things he did, was only mentioned by John The Baptist, theologans and historians still cannot work out why this, and other major miracles performed by Jesus, were never mentioned in the other books. Also it has been suggested that raising Lazarus meant only a spiritual awakening, as 6 days after Jesus 'rose him', he spent one day and one night in a room only with Jesus, being 'taught the word of God'.
Not only that, but some of the miracles, or special events were pre-organised, by Jesus and the Bethany family. For instance, before the last supper, Jesus told his disciples to look for a MAN carrying a pitcher (this was unheard of, this was womans work back then and he would have stuck out like a sore thumb), he met them there and took them to an arranged room, passwords were exchanged etc. This suggests that the disciples were kept in the dark about many things, so things they later described may seem better than they actually were.
One last thing, I could say more but I don't want to bore you, if you have actually read any of this, a few years back, in the 90s I believe, there was a discovery of the graves of Jesus, Mary and Joseph. This caused huge outcry and much debate as, if these was truly the grave of Jesus, then Christianity couldn't be true, as they believe that Jesus achieved bodily ascension to Heaven, but he couldn't have if his grave was still on Earth, but it was later dismissed as, much to many peoples shock, all those names were extremely common in those times.

Throne777

P.S. Ha, one last point! Christianity was most likely, completely unintended. Think about it, he wanted to be King of the Jews, not start a completely different religion, because he failed as he was not accepted, humiliated, tortured and executed. He never said that he wanted a new religion, just re inforce Jewish principals. He also had said nothing in the Bible version we have today, that would anger the Jews or Romans so much that they would want him dead. What had he done that we are not aware of that they wanted him dead? Also, the Jews had nothing to do with his death as John blamed his death entirely on the Romans.
Azriela
Throne I think that it would be greatly appreciated if you posted the sources of your information. I personally would like to read more on the misconceptions that you took the time to point out.

I have to agree with Rage; on the different but the same concept though. I believe that different versions doens't make it totally inexplicably wrong. (not that I thought that it was right to begin with)
Vore
I prefer Revelations myself...Reads not unlike the Jabberwocky...

I honestly would not mind if I never saw a Bible or any other holy book again...
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