bloodsoakedrazor
Nov 10 2004, 11:14 AM
The truth is, that there is no set-in-stone history about vampires, there is no exact way to determine who is and who isn't a vampire.
Our history is veiled and only bits and pieces can be found. Not only that, history has a way of being distorted and twisted as it's passed down.
No one has all the answers, but I'm sure if you spoke to and interviewed each and every living vampire on the face of the planet, you could piece together our history and exactly what we are and aren't......
btw, this post is for the new members that keep comming in and asking the same questions...... i haven't been here a week and it's already becoming bothersome!
Lili
Nov 10 2004, 02:28 PM
Thank you very much, Mr. Razor. I will tell you that I am compiling a Bloodlust FAQ that will link to the questions newbies usually ask, so you know we are working on this issue. Thank you for your willingness to address the newcomers to our forum, and I hope to link to this topic from the FAQ soon.
escoban
Nov 10 2004, 07:39 PM
u are correct,
our history bases on mostly fairytales and rarely any atleast writen sources or even proovable facts,
we are a mist in the human imagination and to some extent we always will be,
but hey, isn't that just he way we liek it?
not giving prey too much info, just for the sake of staying invisible...
Ravager
Nov 10 2004, 09:20 PM
Well, vampires are almost a myth...
But people in some societies live like vampires, thinking they are inmortal or just being a little goth...
But I think vampires exist...
Somewhere...
The Morbid Darkness
Nov 11 2004, 03:10 AM
history is distorted because there is hardly ever a non-biased account anywhere, there is always that little bit of lop-sided favouritism....
and vampires, i agree with ravager on this, are almost a myth.... a legend, something that never existed................
but there's got to be some out there right?
NightSky
Nov 11 2004, 10:52 PM
QUOTE (escoban @ Nov 10 2004, 08:39 PM)
u are correct,
our history bases on mostly fairytales and rarely any atleast writen sources or even proovable facts...
While most information people today have learned about vampires is based on myths or 'fairy tales', the whole concept of vampires was based on real historical people, who's stories have been exaggerated and elaborated on. Most of the nonsense vampire superstitions that have been created (garlic, wooden stakes, no reflection, etc.) have been made up by movies and fiction writers to make the whole idea more interesting, and to give vampires a movie-monster quality. So the original inspirations for vamps have been based on real people and instances, but it is very true that there is no solid history on actual vampires, or even the existence of actual vampires or what they are. This is mostly based on what people choose to believe, as opposed to a solid anatomy of what a vampire is.
NightSky
Nov 11 2004, 10:54 PM
...I also would like to add that most newcomers to the forum that are also newcomers to the concept of vampires still view vamps in the classical immortal sense, and have not yet opened their minds to modern vamps such as ourselves. I think this is part of what causes some confusion between newbies and modern vamps, and we should all keep that in mind.
BlutEngel
Nov 21 2004, 08:08 PM
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but there's got to be some out there right?
Why?
Ive always thought the origins of the vampire came from Vlad the impaler.
People like him and Elizibeth Bathory are the people whos tales are told of to scare the children. The childern tell their children. And those children tell theirs and so on, all the while each decendant might change the facts slightly.
And so a ledgend is born;
That will entertain the people of the world.
That will scare the children in the night.
That will lead fools to believe that they are somthing their not.
NightVision
Nov 22 2004, 08:13 AM
I don't believe in blood-sucking vampires, although I'd like to, but I DEFINITELY believe in Psi-Vampires, having met two now, and they freaked the hell out of me in ways that can't be explained by simple psychology.
Throne777
Nov 22 2004, 03:41 PM
'they freaked the hell out of me in ways that can't be explained by simple psychology'
Was it a really good card trick? Or that one where you think of a number between one and ten and they guess the number? Gets me every time.
Sorry, I just think psi vampirism about as real Iraqs' weapons of mass destruction, oooohh contraversy....
NightVision
Nov 22 2004, 06:30 PM
So much so that you just had to be sarcastic, I see.
Vampire myths have been around a lot longer than Vlad Dracula too. I value opinions which are based on research, so I'm afraid I 'm going to have to take yours with a pinch of salt.
Throne777
Nov 25 2004, 03:06 PM
Well yeah. Vampire myths/legends have been around way before Christ was born (b.c.) so yeah, take it with a pinch of salt.
And asking every living vampire at this moment in time is easier said than done, but I'm sure I've got Lestats' phone number somewhere #rumages through draws filled with scraps of paper#
NightVision
Nov 29 2004, 10:08 PM
S'ok I've got it:
It's 555 - STOP - TAKING - THE - PISS.
HellionBoy666
Nov 29 2004, 10:33 PM
QUOTE (bloodsoakedrazor @ Nov 10 2004, 09:14 AM)
The truth is, that there is no set-in-stone history about vampires, there is no exact way to determine who is and who isn't a vampire.
Our history is veiled and only bits and pieces can be found. Not only that, history has a way of being distorted and twisted as it's passed down.
No one has all the answers, but I'm sure if you spoke to and interviewed each and every living vampire on the face of the planet, you could piece together our history and exactly what we are and aren't......
btw, this post is for the new members that keep comming in and asking the same questions...... i haven't been here a week and it's already becoming bothersome!
Wellm I believe that some of it is true. Of course, I think that there is one kind of "gereric" vampire. The lusting vampires, the ones who lust for things that they do not posses but cannot live without. Blood, energy, anything foreign to the body that gives them life. As for determining who is and who isn''t a vampire, I believe what people tell me. If they say they are, thats all I need to know. No demonstration needed. You could call me a knowledge vamp.
Azriela
Nov 29 2004, 11:11 PM
Truth is always distorted and since vampric nature is full of misconceptions and mythology it is easy for me to believe that the full truth can never be discovered because of the disintegration of it throughout the years.
Throne; I'd like to know what you believe and why. I actually like to understand why people think the way that they do; you strike me as an interesting fellow so I beg of you, indulge me.
Personally, as I've said in many threads; I don't believe in Classical Vampires. I don't simply because I have no proof that they exist and until they show themselves I will be lackadasical on the topic of Classicals.
I believe the modern day blood vampires do exist and so do Psi/Energy vampires. . .
WilV
Nov 29 2004, 11:26 PM
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If they say they are, thats all I need to know.
I am the voices in your head :D
But seriously... when it comes to "psi-vampirism" it's a bio-electric phenomena, and not all that uncommon.
NotWhatSheSeems
Nov 30 2004, 08:41 AM
Vampires (however you wish to spell the word) or I should say tales and myths and legends about vampires (and all other forms of night creatures) have existed since man's beginnings. The first cavemen were probably frightened of natural events and created images of fantasical creatures. So, I believe, that the Tale of the Blooddrinker existed long before Vlad or dear Elizabat. Those two were mere mortals, one in a lust for his land, the other seeking immortality...and not finding it. So now we have not only those stories (that have lost meaning to us) but now have stories of modern vampires who have ethics.
I'm sorry. I am a traditionalist. Give me stories of Vlad any day over these "sensitive, caring" creatures.
Hyldon the Vampire
Nov 30 2004, 09:16 AM
Well, I love the way you lot think, it got me into this. In my view there are these types of vampires;
Modern
Classical
Psi
Novel/Film related
I think the problem is that too many of us out there believe that the Novel/Film related Vampires are like how modern Vampires go about stuff. They have a problem with blood-drinkers and believe that no acceptance is given by the 'victim'.(I myself used to believe such.) They also believe that Vampires have no feelings, but I through many books, internet sites, words have concluded that they of course do feel, even if it is just the urge for blood, this is a feeling.
And about myth? Well, I thought it all a myth and had never even heard of modern vampires until I started researching. I became hooked almost instantly. But as you go on researching you realise that there must be some sort of truth in it somewhere, no-one gets ideas like this and makes it all up, just like that.
Throne777
Nov 30 2004, 04:06 PM
Whoever said that stakes garlic etc was made by films and writers is wrong. These things have been around for years and there have been documented cases of corpses being staked or burned for fear of vampirism, it wasn't helped by their lack of knowledge over things like decomposition.
Hyldon the Vampire: I guess you did this 'researching' over the internet, which is an extremely unreliable source for information. Do not believe everything you read. And seen as vampirism over the thoasends of years it has been around for and how we have seen them and what they are like, and then people in this modern time claim to be vampires but share NO TRAITS whatsoever to do with vampirism apart from drinking blood (which they don't even need to survive) people are going to be a little bit skeptical.
'But as you go on researching you realise that there must be some sort of truth in it somewhere, no-one gets ideas like this and makes it all up, just like that.'
Oh I beg to differ.
Eternal_tears_of_blood
Dec 1 2004, 10:13 PM
Razor, People like you make me feel stupid...
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