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escoban
you know that stage right before sleep when u can give orders to urself and they come true (like for dream recall and for getting up in the morning at the right time)

well, what if that stage just isn't there?
how would one go about doing such things then?
meditation probably, but what if that just doesn't quite cut it?
passingover
It is always there it seems. What you do even now is there. It is a part of the reason for what you do most would say. The only thing is that for most people this is where it is more easily and naturally seen, in this way. The conscious mind steps out of the way.

You can try meditation. And most people say that will help you with the other things too by sort of adjusting your mind. One of the things it is said to help is dream recall.

If it "doesn't" work, don't worry too much about it. I guess I would just advise maybe getting more in touch with your feelings and try to experience things emotionally more often as opposed to logically. Perhaps art might help with this. Focus on the imediate feeling of images overall, instead of the details for a while. And be relaxed. Do it only for its own sake as opposed to because of what it can or is supposed to do. If art isn't your thing, jsut try walking around in nature or anywhere and try to feel things you usually don't notice. Pay attention to first thoughts or feelings and explore them, don't ignore them.

Sometimes being overly rational is like the kiss of death for certain things. Particularly if a counter balance is not there or allowed to surface. You probably want to develop your creative side a bit more, I am guessing?
escoban
I meditate every day,
and my creative side is kinda developed good enough, I think...
well it used to be anyway, maybe it jsut changed alittle...

why I want to do this is solely to gain even more control over myself,
I can already control the subconcious so much that my body language is under control and small stuff like that,
but I just want to do more


ok, for starters it would be nice to get the ability of waking at a certain hour by will back,
I was able to say I'll wake up at 7am and it would happen, now even the alarm clock doesn't wake me anymore, and I just can't programme myself to wake up anymore, someone has to be there to phisically wake me up...
Invisigoth
I bet your ability is still there, escoban. Have you been in the practice of using the skills you are refering to?
escoban
I stopped doing it for a while to do dream recall practice,

but now I can't do any of them...
lol
NightVision
I used to have that ability, but I lost it when I was 20. I was most upset, and to this day it hasn't come back.
Baron Ilmarinen Draugr
Smoke weed. Works for me.

Draugr.
escoban
QUOTE (Baron Ilmarinen Draugr @ Oct 29 2004, 04:03 PM)
Smoke weed. Works for me.

Draugr.
*


yeah,
BUT NOT FOR WAKING UP

u silly :banana00:
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