N E 1 interested in black or white magick i wanna hear anyone who is.
i wanna hear personal veiws of anyone.
personally i would never practise black magic and i wanna talk to people who do
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I don't practice any magick yet,
but will start with white soon,
maybe some day even black as it has always been my dream to be involved in black magic,
dont ask me why as I do not know, but I ahve always been mroe drawn to the dark side of things

Well black magick can be scary and it can wield results similar to those shown in "the exorcist" . also black magick is for quick self-gain but it will effect you negitavly very quickly

true,
but there are ways to protect oneself from anything,
the only problem being that one practicing black magick can never let their guard down

I consider myself a white magic practicioner, although I'd say I'm only a novice. I've been doing it for about ten years now, but only dabbling in it whenever I think it's needed. I am very attracted to the unknown and the mysterious so naturally magic is on my mind. That's my take on it.

Black magic is not for me although I'm sure I've sent some negativity around without realizing it.

White magik is kind-of an odd topic. There is something about it. Probably just say:

"The world is full of unlimited desire with limited resources."

Not really sure how white magick works however, considering this it seems helping one person may harm another. Therefore, white magick isn't so 'good.'

Keeping things natural and in balance, just letting go is the best in my opinion. It may be hard sometimes, but it is a waste of time trying to control things out of reach. Sure could make the world better. How many people would have to die. May be it's just better for me. Dealing with life in the physical plain is best. If I want a job, don't do drugs and get the skills to get hired. If I want a house figure out how to build up a savings and have good credit. Yes, there is always a way.

Categorizing magic into only black or white limits its practice and its power. Magic is about the totality ... the whole... without boundaries. You strip away the restrictions ... only then can you utilize and embrace what you desire and the techniques needed to achieve that desire. The best place to find order is to walk into the chaos and comand the storm.

I'm with Abigail and Olivia here, there can be no such thing as black or white magic if you follow logic. White magic, no matter how selfless, will always have negative elements in it, the ripple effects will at some point harm another, thus it will have traces of black. Same with black, at some point it will benefit someone. however unintended (and we all know the whitest of all is the unintended gratification).

All magic is, if we have to use color schemes, some shade of grey. And that makes the whole color coding moot, when everything falls under the same category, only separated by shades.

I hate to be one saying "dito" to what they said, but that's pretty much as I see it as well. Clear hit the nail on the head when she stated all magic as being grey...it's one of those things where the answers you'll get will totally depend upon whom you ask...better to really give it some consideration for yourself and decide what you feel is truth. The more you can identify with or believe in an idea...the stronger your magic will be. It's all about what works for you.

And by the way, good to see you around again, Olivia.

yes white / black. are but definitions of the desire put behind your work. while on top of that horrid descritions at that.

soyeah dito to clear ect... :icon6:

Thanks after thinking about it you are right.
magick is Gray as you cannot have black/white magick

But what do you classify magick that is done for pure evil to hurt as many people as possible surely this is only profitable to satan.
This i would classify as black and not gray magick.

Thanks i didn't expect so many replies and i ADORE you Clearwitch
xXx

I totally agree. All I meant to say is that I don't do manipulative spells on people or expect to get rich quick. My magic is more of a meditative, positive charging of things in my life, prayers, etc.

Well, even by hurting people you may benefit others. For instance, you decide to kill a man, just because. You use your bravest mumbo-jumbo to harm him, curse him beyond recognition. The guy finds himself on the railroad tracks in front of a train, is hit, and killed. Maybe others dies too in the crash. Children, grandmothers, innocent, good people. Now this is pure evil, right?

But what if, on this train, there's a runaway girl on her way to the next big city. The crash affects her so much that she rethinks her life, goes back home, and escapes a lifetime of drug abuse, prostitution and general degradation. A man who has been on the edge of both law and morals narrowly escapes death, and sees the errors of his ways, and dedicates the rest of his life to serve good. Or at least six months or so, a lifetime is a long long time.

Is it still pure evil?

That's what I mean by ripple effects, unless you can account for every single consequence of your action, it can benefit someone, thus negating the "pure" part of evil. And making it no longer black, but more like superdark grey.

[QUOTE]Is it still pure evil

This is coincedental who's to say she will escape a lifetime of prostitution drugs and crime
lets say she was on her way to maybe becoming a star and the train crash stopped her this is Evil.

You make a good argument and i think you still r cool.

you should be the first female president u would ROCK

I can't, I'm not an American citizen.

What a shame i mean you are a really level headed person you are also really down to earth

Thank you. People don't usually agree with me. Good example of doing something good that ends up bad.

You know on the other hand too. Someone creates a pure black magick spell to make a lot of money. They hire thousands of unemployed people and become a figurehead. I've heard things about some of the bigger corporations. Of course, it's all rumor. Tide

Meditation, burning incense to relax and other activities, even celebrating holidays is different than casting spells.

Would you ever be happy with someone you really loved if you thought they were only nice to you because they had to be? Love at first sight distroyed because the feeling was never trusted. That is a priceless event.

Could you enjoy working somewhere wondering all the time if someone who was more needy was up for a break and you stole it from them?

Is the fruit ever as sweet knowing in the back of you mind it has been tampered with?

White magick is also selfish if you get down to the core of it. But by the same token any action you take can be deemed as selfish, God playing Metal Gear Solid 2 does have an effect on you!

White and Black are Yin and Yan a little of the other within. Nothing is a pure white or black magick as with Yin and Yan, everything has a little of the opposite within.

in my book magik is not white/black its pure energy its how you use/or manipulate it...but what you guys call white magik, to heal,protect or anything else you can think of is great...but beware the use of magik for most personal gain and to cause harm can lead to baaaad things

I hear so much about not working magick for personal gain. I can not agree. That's exactly what it is used for. Even the most altruistic reason on earth comes down to what the practicioner wants. And why on earth would I spend hours, days, months and years learning a craft to never use it for Myself? I would tell new people to energy work to examine their motive very, very thoroughly.....but this 'no personal gain' rule/opinion/scare tactic is not a rule I can abide by.....

PS-I've been enhancing My life for years and hell has not descended on Me. I'm actually quite happy and fulfilled for a Woman of 39.

...and 'yes' I do work for others, the Earth, animals and etc....

Because of the way I am I do not really need to do things declaratively in order to get magickal effects - that are usually small. The way I look at those is that it is largely just natural and a part of me intereacting with the world around me. With the "good" things that come to me if it is something I don't feel I need or it turns into more than I need or I see that it is potentially taking from someone, I will usually minimize it however I can - I don't see most things as being all that important anyway and really am not in much want to often regardless. If it is something "negative", well I try to let things go and just let go of ill will and the like but am still human all the same....So.... With me, if you make me happy, being around you I will probably make you happy and good things will happen. If the opposite, you make me angry or nervous, things can get rough for you and others around who happen to be around. In a way it isn't that much different than other things and is largely natural. Particularly when it will always happen and can only seemingly be dampened.

For things I do with intent, I limit these to the extreme. I do not generally believe in getting involved if there are other ways. If I made a mistake though, I believe in fixing it or making up for it to make it right again. I am not opposed to helping others or working with others, but it is very limited because I usually see things differently and for people I work with, I really need to trust them and think highly of them beyond what is "normal" or it can only end badly.

A thought on this and white magick though. In general we consider that if we can do something [staying in only a mundane sphere here - say giving them food when hungary] for others that would help them, we should do it. This is considered caring. But I guess often what seems "nice" or "helping" can be seen differently depending on the level you look. Then to me, if I can see no reason why something would do nothing but help all, I guess I would be disposed to doing it if in time brought to my attention and this truly held.

There is no "white" or "black"
I think inorder to know one, you automatically know the other...
As a Druid, i find that it is easier to think BLACK since it is my fav color, but my heart goes" good! Good!"...
White magic is more a state of heart and good morals... Each spell has its uses and as long as you know the consiquences associated with it, you are gunna do just fine.