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redragon
The first time I officially tried to do a spell I was only 14,granted I didn't really know what I was doing. Basically it was a "love" spell. I know now that true love cannot be forced. BUT basically at the time I just was obsessed with this guy and wanted his bod. I repetitivly did this spell. My friend gave me the words to say, and it involved a candle and a needle. Basically it was to make him want me so bad and until he did want me make his love life stinky. I know that sounds horrible. I would not do that spell ever again, I'm a firm believer in karma.

So to get to my question... how do I know if it ever worked? How do I know this man is now not being tortured in his love life. Mind you it's been over 10 years.
escoban
I think I saw some spells online that tell you if a spell worked,
but I'm not sure...
Morrigan Wolfe
QUOTE (redragon926 @ Oct 7 2004, 03:32 PM)

So to get to my question... how do I know if it ever worked?  How do I know this man is now not being tortured in his love life.  Mind you it's been  over 10 years.

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You probably did not have the mental focus to appropriately cast the spell. However, if you like you could write his name on paper and officially 'release' him by burning the paper and letting go as it does......it's been a long time and this is more for you than for him. It's best to use a personal item or pic....but if it's all you have write the name and use that. You will be symbolicaly letting go of him....
redragon
Thanks!
Vore
I have never actualy wondered about those people I've put curses on say...whilst driving and being nearly shunted off the road....my curses do seem to be potent...in the past I have regretted making them when I've seen things actualy happen to those I cursed..but those who I curse in passing...well...frankly my dear...I don't give a damn...I'm not very moralistic really.
redragon
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I have never actualy wondered about those people I've put curses on say...whilst driving and being nearly shunted off the road....my curses do seem to be potent...in the past I have regretted making them when I've seen things actualy happen to those I cursed..but those who I curse in passing...well...frankly my dear...I don't give a damn...I'm not very moralistic really.


Well this was my first, before I really got into it. But I would say I was really obsessed with this guy, he was HOT. So maybe I did have an influence on him.

Any way today I saw stickers and other stuff, with his last name on it. It's not a common name either.
passingover
QUOTE (redragon926 @ Oct 7 2004, 07:32 PM)

So to get to my question... how do I know if it ever worked?  How do I know this man is now not being tortured in his love life.  Mind you it's been  over 10 years.

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I think it is nice that you actually care. :) You are a nice person.

For me I know often times by a general sense of paranioa or a feeling in my stomach when I hear or witness something or immediately after doing things... But I don't do "spells" anymore and I don't consider what I have ever done really to be a "spell". Maybe just like it.

You are right to be concerned in my opinion. So often people seem to think everything is immediate or near term after they perform their deed. They do not consider effects or manifestations before (yes, really) or very much after. I always found that curious and have wondered about these people.

That you think about it, that you see his name and it triggers this still says something. It is still within you. It may or may not be that this is enough to do things, depends on you. But for some people, by even thinking about it they can do things. So it could be that you are still bringing it to fruitation!

Do you really want is to happen - secretly or deeply ? If so, I don't know that I could really do anything. If you don't, if it were me, I would just focus on them intently and wish them free of it all and then wish them well and then forget it all. (for me) But whatever works for you. Long ago as a way to counter some things that I had done someone recommended to me "candle visualization/meditation exercizes". Bascially, take a white (blue is good too - but whatever - to me blue is manifestation color causing magickal influence) candle, charge it with your energy before lighting it, focus and visualize on letting them go - releasing them - for some time focus on the candle fire light thinking this. Imagine the light expanding and actually going out to find them or accomplish the task, just know that it is going out to do the work of freeing them and making everything right again, destroying what you put out before. My personal twist would be to just fall asleep while focusing on the candle or shortly thereafter.

Another way I have heard. Take a goal or desire and bring it to a certain amount of other people. A way of manifesting it outwards into the world. Say or write this (or whatever) to others: "<first name> is free". Think about them as you say it. I would say that you shouldn't explain it, and just shrug it off if someone says "what?" but I guess it is up to you. Visualize that with each mind that hears it, it will spread outwards among people as they interact.

But if you don't mean it and it is just you forcing yourself to do it, it probably will not work.

Good luck.
Vore
Even the most moralistic of practitioners tend to develop what could be termed a 'bow wave' like the waters behind a boat that can drag things behind them or effect things unseen to the surface. Everyone has one of these simply as part of normal causality...you leave a trail of reactions behind you...but to those who are actively attempting to affect causality...the effect may well be more pronounced.

I'd only worry about this if my ex girlfriends had turned into small hillocks or shrubs though...sadly that has not happened to my knowledge.
redragon
I still think about this guy, and only recently. I don't want him any more although I am interested in if he would find me attractive now. I am going to my ten year H.S. reunion in November(yes I am getting old) and I am curious if he'll be there. I am with someone now and wouldn't hook up with my old crush, that would be just wrong in my eyes. But like I said, I want to know if he would hit on me. Unfortunatly Im still obsessed with this notion. I think that I can release all of this after I see him, if not before. Actually this whole reunion is driving me up a wall. I didn't really care then why should I give a crap now? Sorry to change the subject, but I think it's all tied together, my past that is.
passingover
QUOTE (redragon926 @ Oct 11 2004, 12:58 AM)
I still think about this guy, and only recently.  I don't want him any more although I am interested in if he would find me attractive now.  I am going to my ten year H.S. reunion in November(yes I am getting old) and I am curious if he'll be there.  I am with someone now and wouldn't hook up with my old crush, that would be just wrong in my eyes.  But like I said, I want to know if he would hit on me.  Unfortunatly Im still obsessed with this notion.  I think that I can release all of this after I see him, if not before.  Actually this whole reunion is driving me up a wall.  I didn't really care then why should I give a crap now?  Sorry to change the subject, but I think it's all tied together, my past that is.
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It almost seems like your mind is pulling in two different directions over this, but for different reasons. Like something underneath it all really wants him to just throw himself at you, but on top of this, you know better. (you admitted to it pretty much) Talk about a situation, and I thought I was in serious trouble.... (!) You are a very honest person though, which is pretty cool. Good luck. :) I actually have mine coming up too, but I won't be going to it. Too far away, wierd circumstances, etc... I ended up finishing in an alternative school anyway so it would be strange in and of itself.
redragon
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It almost seems like your mind is pulling in two different directions over this, but for different reasons. Like something underneath it all really wants him to just throw himself at you, but on top of this, you know better.


It is! I hate it. I want it to be over yet, it still drives me up a wall! I can't help it. I think back in the day I was so determined to have this guy that he still lingers in my mind. But like I said, I hope he didn't suffer on my behalf.

I guess I want to show them that I am not a nobody. Even though I know I am better then most of them. A lot of people treated me like I was invisible, except a few good people.

I think I want to go mainly to see this guy. He probably won't even go!
ReVamp3d
On a note to the original topic/question, I would like to add my two cents. As far as "spells" go, it is my belief that you may not necessarily 'see' the fruits of your labours. What I mean is, you will never know whether they have worked or not. Now seems kind of obvious right? Well maybe so but here's the way I look at it. When you perform a spell, the effects or lack thereof are meshed into time. What I mean by this, is that the future is the future, and whatever happens to you in your future, is a direct result of present actions. A ripple effect if you will. If a spell has worked, it will rewrite history. Which means that it will occur to you as just the normal future, and you won't know any different. (well you might, but not necessarily) I don't believe that spells are necessarily bound by our frame of time, and they may not take effect until a later date... If they do take effect immediately then sweet :P

any questions?

peace be with you
redragon
I'm a firm believer that what ever "energies" I send out will come back to me 3X. I never truly understood at the time the words of the spell, I was just focusing on this person and had one adjenda. Now I just want to make sure he isn't suffering because that was not the point of the spell, or I should say my intentions.

Now I know better.
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