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Liod
While I'm in no way vouching for the authenticity and truthfulness of these stories, I find the concept fascinating...how object, I'll focus on painting as a start, can be haunted by spirits, and possibly affect the owners.

In February 2000 a painting was laid out for sale on Ebay. It was called "The Hands Resists Him" and was painted by Bill Stoneham. It was accompanied by a rather disturbing ad, claiming that at night, the boy-figure in the painting, a self-portrait by the author, had been forced out of the frame by the girl/doll figure, the battery in her hands now changed to a gun. Photographic evidence, apparently taken with a motiondetecting webcam were attached.

The picture at daytime:



At night, the girl forcing the boy out:



Stories flared up all over internet. Many viewers reported their computers crashing immediately after looking at the image, printers going berserk, uncontrollable crying, nausea, strange behavior from nearby children and animals, a feeling of mind control, etc.

A copy of the eBay bidding, the actual bidding has been clkosed and deleted:

http://www.secretcrypt.com/monthly/strange...2/painting2.htm

A BBC news article on the piece:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/derby/unexplained/200...inting_01.shtml


It was never proven, nor disproven, that this painting was actually haunted, as far as I know. What do you think? Do you know of other haunted paintings?
Sara- Arlette
That's really strange. I'm not sure what to think of it.

I have heard of another case of a haunted painting in 1988. There's a story behind it, but it's quite long, and in a book. I'll post it in a second when I've found information on the artist and possibly the painting...
Sara- Arlette
Well, the artist was Franchot Seville. He was a postcard Artist, so he's hard to find, but anyways...

In 1988 there was a mysterious explosion which destroyed the home of the Amos family, in Heswell, England. When firemen sifted through, they found a picture labelled, 'The Crying Boy'. A portrait of an angelic looking boy, with a sorrowful expression. But apparenlty, it wasn't singed by the blaze.

Later in Bradford, there was another fire, and the same picture was found in that house. National newspapers were informed, and when the fire chief of Yorkshire was asked if her thought the portrait was evil, he wouldn't comment.

There have been other blazes, one in Dublin in 1998, and occasionally people still claim to have seen the crying boy at burnt houses...

George Mallory claimed to have uncovered the truth in 1995 when he tracked down the artist, Franchot Seville. Seville said that the porttrait was of a boy he had found wandering around in Madrid in 1969. He had a sorrowful look, and Seville decided he wanted to paint him.

A Catholic priest told him that the boys, Don Bonillo, parents had been killed in a fire, and the boy had witnessed it, and that ever since then where-ever the boy settled was set alight. People called him Diablo (devil) because of it.

Seville became quite rich from selling paintings of the boy, but his studiio was mysteriously set ablaze. The boy ran off and was never seen again. A few years later a car exploded after crashing into a wall. The victim was charred byeong regonition, but in the glove compartment his Driving licence was for a 19 year old, Don Bonillo.

I found this is a book I have called The UnXplained: Mind's Secrets.

Sorry this was soo long. unsure.gif
Vore
What's the bottom pic meant to show?....I thought it was going to be one of those 'made you jump' gif images at first...I like those...


Supposedly haunted objects appear on Ebay all the time...recently there was a haunted box containing some second world war Jewish stuff...not nice but doubtful.
Liod
QUOTE (Sara- Arlette @ Oct 5 2004, 04:27 PM)
Well, the artist was Franchot Seville. He was a postcard Artist, so he's hard to find, but anyways...

In 1988 there was a mysterious explosion which destroyed the home of the Amos family, in Heswell, England. When firemen sifted through, they found a picture labelled, 'The Crying Boy'. A portrait of an angelic looking boy, with a sorrowful expression. But apparenlty, it wasn't singed by the blaze.

Later in Bradford, there was another fire, and the same picture was found in that house. National newspapers were informed, and when the fire chief of Yorkshire was asked if her thought the portrait was evil, he wouldn't comment.

There have been other blazes, one in Dublin in 1998, and occasionally people still claim to have seen the crying boy at burnt houses...

George Mallory claimed to have uncovered the truth in 1995 when he tracked down the artist, Franchot Seville. Seville said that the porttrait was of a boy he had found wandering around in Madrid in 1969. He had a sorrowful look, and Seville decided he wanted to paint him.

A Catholic priest told him that the boys, Don Bonillo, parents had been killed in a fire, and the boy had witnessed it, and that ever since then where-ever the boy settled was set alight. People called him Diablo (devil) because of it.

Seville became quite rich from selling paintings of the boy, but his studiio was mysteriously set ablaze. The boy ran off and was never seen again. A few years later a car exploded after crashing into a wall. The victim was charred byeong regonition, but in the glove compartment his Driving licence was for a 19 year old, Don Bonillo.

I found this is a book I have called The UnXplained: Mind's Secrets.

Sorry this was soo long.  unsure.gif
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Beautiful, Sara-Arlette. :) I searched around a bit, and found a picture of the painting:



QUOTE (Vore @ Oct 5 2004, 04:30 PM)
What's the bottom pic meant to show?....I thought it was going to be one of those 'made you jump' gif images at first...I like those...
Supposedly haunted objects appear on Ebay all the time...recently there was a haunted box containing some second world war Jewish stuff...not nice but doubtful.
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it's supposed to show how the girl-figure changes, and pushes the boy out of the painting. I have a close-up of her here, you can see how the battery she's holding now looks more like a gun:

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Sara- Arlette
Oh wow! Thanks! :D I've always wondered what he looked like when i've read it. He look's soo young! And has beautiful big blue eyes! He's so cute! ^_^

The book I got it froms pretty good really...
escoban
wow, I always wanted to own something like that,

well since I read Gogolj's Portrait (I think that's how it's called in english), that story was killer :D
Night Eagle
QUOTE (Clearwitch @ Oct 5 2004, 03:56 PM)
While I'm in no way vouching for the authenticity and truthfulness of these stories, I find the concept fascinating...how object, I'll focus on painting as a start, can be haunted by spirits, and possibly affect the owners.

In February 2000 a painting was laid out for sale on Ebay.  It was called "The Hands Resists Him" and was painted by Bill Stoneham.  It was accompanied by a rather disturbing ad, claiming that at night, the boy-figure in the painting, a self-portrait by the author, had been forced out of the frame by the girl/doll figure, the battery in her hands now changed to a gun.  Photographic evidence, apparently taken with a motiondetecting webcam were attached.

The picture at daytime:



At night, the girl forcing the boy out:



Stories flared up all over internet. Many viewers reported their computers crashing immediately after looking at the image, printers going berserk, uncontrollable crying, nausea, strange behavior from nearby children and animals, a feeling of mind control, etc.

A copy of the eBay bidding, the actual bidding has been clkosed and deleted:

http://www.secretcrypt.com/monthly/strange...2/painting2.htm

A BBC news article on the piece:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/derby/unexplained/200...inting_01.shtml
It was never proven, nor disproven, that this painting was actually haunted, as far as I know.  What do you think?  Do you know of other haunted paintings?
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looks like simple photagraphy and playing with the lights to create the illution of such
Liod
QUOTE (escoban @ Oct 5 2004, 06:12 PM)
wow, I always wanted to own something like that,

well since I read Gogolj's Portrait (I think that's how it's called in english), that story was killer :D
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This story?

http://www.classicreader.com/read.php/sid....kid.1012/sec.1/
redragon
This is a spooky picture to begin with. Maybe the artist painted the picture like this on purpose. It's like one of those optical illusions.
Fail
I would have to agree and say that its common trickery either by the photographer or artist themselves. When the painting is viewed in full light it shows the battery the girl is holding against the framing of the window. And when the lights are dimmed severely the window framing conforms with the battery under one shadow making the ruff appearance or outline of a gun. Never the less this is still a strange and captivating painting that I would love to own, I could stare at this for hours and let my mind conjure up a whole lot of disturbing thoughts.
Vore
QUOTE (Sara- Arlette @ Oct 5 2004, 05:30 PM)
Oh wow! Thanks! :D I've always wondered what he looked like when i've read it. He look's soo young! And has beautiful big blue eyes! He's so cute!  ^_^

The book I got it froms pretty good really...
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Cute!? He's creepy as all hell...
Nemesis Chylde
Not a painting....but I've laid eyes upon a haunted mirror.

A club I used to work at had this 1700's mirror imported in from France...fucking thing was obnoxiously huge...and scared the shit out of every halfway sensitive girl in the house, though no one could say exactly what it was about it.
Liod
Did anyone ever see anything in the mirror? Mirrors, like windows and doors, can be seen as portals to other realms, I think Feng Shui strongly advices against placing mirrors in bedrooms, because it attracts negative energy, and while you're asleep you're more vulnerable to them.




I found another haunted painting, this one done by the artist Salvador G. Valdez. The story of it is rather long, I'll cut down a bit and link you to the full story. Valdez started out an art project, a portrait, testing out a new method. Unfortunately it didn't go all that well, the colors blended into a horrid, murky brown. He left the painting, and returned the next day, slashed a few strokes of paint on the canvas to get his frustration out, and then started cleaning the canvas to start over.

And this is when things started happening...when he poured terpentine on the canvas to remove the paint, faces appeared. A Jesus-like face, a Native American god, two naked female bodies, an infant's face, and many more. As you can see, the painting became rather crowded:



To let the artist justify himself:

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Another question I face is, Who is going to believe that you did not paint this canvas? This question is extremely difficult to answer. Technically speaking, my art does not reflect the painting technique demonstrated in this painting. To execute this particular painting the artist would have to use the Polaroid development process using canvas, brushes, gesso, oil paints and turpentine. I would like to claim to have such a talent, but regrettably I do not. I know that anyone who has undergone such an experience and is adamant in sharing it with the public will suffer indignation. But in the end, all I can say is this; this is a true story.


You can find the full story here: Here
NightVision
Haunted or not I wouldn't have ANY of those freak ass paintings in my house.

I slept in a room full of portraits once, the guy collected portraits, the kind where the eyes follow you around the room. Even in the dark they were still staring. At 4 am I had enough and went to sleep on the landing. Portraits are as freaky as clowns I reckon. Just read The Picture of Dorian Gray and tell me it ain't so.
vampire princess
Two very old friends of mine very spiritually psi
owned a painting, a very old painting a nun actually gave to her
A portrait of Jesus Christ
When I was sitting in the room it felt as though it was watching me,
thinking paranoid I ignored it, then as I walked passed, his
eyes were different one blue one green.
Then when I walked passed again they were brown?
Thought this was strange, I then walked up to it and the painting
was crying real tears.
They say it only showed itself like that to certain people.
And of course the church always gets rid of things that can
cause a stir always afraid of their own shadows.
Hauntingly
Vampire Princess x
Sara- Arlette
*nods* They do tend to. I always remember the time at my mum's work, when Jehovah's Witnesses went in and burned a load of bibles, cause one was apprently 'haunted'. It kept following this lady back home from work, they were being sold in a sale see, but this certain one would 'follow' her around.

So naturally, it was haunted. So they burnt them all.

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Cute!? He's creepy as all hell...


He's not! He's little and sad, and lonely, and so sweet! Lol. But everyone see's things differently.... :P

Sara
passingover
QUOTE (Clearwitch @ Oct 5 2004, 03:56 PM)
It was never proven, nor disproven, that this painting was actually haunted, as far as I know.  What do you think?  Do you know of other haunted paintings?
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I think it is very interesting. I have never seen this one before. One thing I noticed almost right away is the hands beyond the window. One seems to beckon, others are as if they are knocking. Still with other hands there is this sense that they are from beyond the window who are just patiently watching and perhaps waiting - btu some are actually cheering it on. The one in the upper left it is like it is beckonging others yet on the other side of the window to come and watch. That one unlike the others does not seem to be a child because of it's height. The name of the work is "The hands work against him" or something like that, no? That seems to make sense.

I suspect that among a lot of people who are more open to certain influences that some symbology is the same and there exists a common language because of experiences. Here the girl [who turned into a doll] is near a symbol of transition (door, window, gate, stairway, etc) with others beyond. I have seen both the "gate symbology" and the doll symbology. I am sure that others have too.

You can see their hands (works) but not them - they are hidden beyond the window on the other side. The girl herself, who is actually a doll in the painting, seems to mean like it is that she is a shell. That her full self is not here - perhaps she belongs on the other side with the others. But she is the executor of the others' will, and she is carrying this out - which is why she is here.

The artist probably knew what he was doing and painted this picture as an expression either consciously or unconsiously of what he has percieved.
But it might be almost anything that inspired him to do this - a dream, vision, psychic perceptions, etc. If the story about the boy is true, then this painting tells the story of his death at the hands of others beyond and it is no wonder that it is charged. It was meant to be. There is a history of artists using paintings to portray secret things using symbology, shadows, etc. that often they could not just come out and do directly. Perhaps they might not be of this calibre, but I have always been fascinated by some of Franz Von Stuck and Leonardo Da Vinci's works, often only because of the feeling that things lied hidden beneath them.

edit:

I got curious about this and looked it up further.
It might have been posted already but propurtedly this is the artist who created it:

http://www.stonehamstudios.com/

Here is his story about it.
http://www.stonehamstudios.com/haunted.shtml

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Where to begin? Well I've always had a connection to what Carl Jung called the collective unconscious. I think we all do. Artists, especially visual artists, are barometers for the currents which run through this collective. Dreams are a common experience people may have with this. Anyway, my own experience is a sensitivity to place– physical, geographical place. There are memories, echoes of all the life within a place. Maybe it's what's called channeling. When I painted the Hands Resist Him in 1972, I used an old photo of myself at age five in a Chicago apartment. The hands are the 'other lives.' The glass door, that thin veil between waking and dreaming. The girl/doll is the imagined companion, or guide through this realm.


Still quite interesting to me personally though.
Nemesis Chylde
QUOTE (Clearwitch @ Oct 6 2004, 02:14 AM)
Did anyone ever see anything in the mirror?  Mirrors, like windows and doors, can be seen as portals to other realms, I think Feng Shui strongly advices against placing mirrors in bedrooms, because it attracts negative energy, and while you're asleep you're more vulnerable to them.
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I think the occasional person was seen looking out...but it was mostly just a really shitty energy vibe coming from the damn thing. Incidentally, it never bothered me. :D
redragon
QUOTE
Did anyone ever see anything in the mirror? Mirrors, like windows and doors, can be seen as portals to other realms, I think Feng Shui strongly advices against placing mirrors in bedrooms, because it attracts negative energy, and while you're asleep you're more vulnerable to them.


Well...I have a large mirror in my bedroom, lucky me. I have never really seen anything but have felt a presence, especially at night. I was always to chicken to look. And I get night terrors...who knows, but the mirror might just be some gateway.

This might sound stupid but, there was this thing when I was a kid, and again never did it myself...You are supposed to go into a darkened room, look in the mirror and repeat "Bloody Mary, Bloody Mary" until you see yourself, bloodied and horrifying.
Sara- Arlette
That sounds ... nice, lol. I've never heard of that one. But mirrors have often been seen as a gateway.

One thing I've heard of like that, is to stand in front of a mirror, and Say ' Candy man' 5 times...
escoban
I susually see this darkish person in the mirror and it somehow does whatever I do just mirrored O.O

anyway, I remember this show that was on tv where 2 boys could go into the past of their home to a very hot girl and the way it was done was through a mirror,
can anyone help me remember the title
?
Vore
I have a brand new mirror on the left wall of my room and a very old mirror on the right wall (so old that the mirror backing is peeling away and looks most disconcertingly like it's tearing holes into blackness)...When I sit here at my desk both mirrors face each other with me between and create infinite reflections of myself....

The first time I ever stood between two mirrors at the house of a lady my Grandmother helped take care of I noticed a strange feeling as if somehow in the far distance of the line of 'me's there was a me that was thinking something different or perhaps not even there at all.

Only later did I pick up theories on parallel dimensions and 'multiverse' theories....I still use mirrors as a form of focus...but in truth I have never looked in a mirror and 'not' seen a stranger I always see something different....As I've said somewhere else...if you aim a video camera at a monitor showing what the video camera is seeing...you get an effect similair to that of looking at yourself in a mirror.
Liod
A new haunted painting:

This one is based off of a picture, "The Headless Man", taken in 1994 by James Kidd. He took a picture of an old stagecoach, and to add effect rewinded and took another picture of another old wagon over it. As he developed the picture he got a surprise, however, on the picture you could see a transparent, headless man stinding next to the coach. The photographer says the photo has been examined by Kodak and other experts to prove that he did not doctor it in any way.



Now a painter, calling herself Laura P, decided to make a painting from this picture. Despite odd feelings she proceeded to do this, and when finished, unexplainable things started happening to her and her surroundings, apparently linked to the painting. Some of these happenings were:

While the picture were hanging in her office, appointments were messed up, papers went missing, the painting would always hang crooked no matter how many times it was straightened. Eventually the co-workers had her bring the painting back home.

The garage roof was leaking, though there were no visible reason as to why. Handymen called in thrice could find no explanation. When they moved the painting away from the garage wall, the roof never leaked again.

Salt got spilled all over the kitchen floor, while the salt shaker remained unmoved and untouched, and nobody was in the room to do it.

A heavy gate that would have been hard to remove, came off its post for no apparent reason. All the hardware was completely intact.

The finished painting:


You can find the full story here.
Liod
QUOTE (Vore @ Oct 8 2004, 01:02 AM)
I have a brand new mirror on the left wall of my room and a very old mirror on the right wall (so old that the mirror backing is peeling away and looks most disconcertingly like it's tearing holes into blackness)...When I sit here at my desk both mirrors face each other with me between and create infinite reflections of myself....

The first time I ever stood between two mirrors at the house of a lady my Grandmother helped take care of I noticed a strange feeling as if somehow in the far distance of the line of 'me's there was a me that was thinking something different or perhaps not even there at all.

Only later did I pick up theories on parallel dimensions and 'multiverse' theories....I still use mirrors as a form of focus...but in truth I have never looked in a mirror and 'not' seen a stranger I always see something different....As I've said somewhere else...if you aim a video camera at a monitor showing what the video camera is seeing...you get an effect similair to that of looking at yourself in a mirror.
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My brother screwed up my liking for mirrors for life. He asked me what I would do if I looked in the mitrror, and my reflection didn't follow my movements. I was terrified of looking in mirrors after that, in case I'd see something different. It took years before I heard the parallell universe theory you mentioned, and that actually just increased my wariness. I still, to this day, expect things in the mirror to be a little different...
Invisigoth
QUOTE (Clearwitch @ Oct 8 2004, 07:43 AM)
My brother screwed up my liking for mirrors for life.  He asked me what I would do if I looked in the mitrror, and my reflection didn't follow my movements.  I was terrified of looking in mirrors after that, in case I'd see something different.  It took years before I heard the parallell universe theory you mentioned, and that actually just increased my wariness.  I still, to this day, expect things in the mirror to be a little different...
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unsure.gif That sounds like a really bad acid trip.....

I saw a lady doing thereapy on people with Distorted Body Image Syndrom by having them look into a circus mirror. The distorted image somehow soothed them......perhaps in your case it might help as well to spend time with one.....just a thought.
Infinitys_son
I got more info on that painting of the little boy and girl-

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WHEN WE RECEIVED THIS PAINTING, WE THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY GOOD ART. A " PICKER " HAD FOUND IT ABANDONNED BEHIND AN OLD BREWERY. AT HTE TIME WE WONDERED A LITLLE WHY A SEEMINGLY PERFECTLY FINE PAINTING WOULD BE DISCARDED LIKE THAT. ( TODAY WE DON'T !!! ) ONE MORNING OUR 4 AND 1/2 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER CLAIMED, THAT THE CHILDREN IN THE PICTURE WERE FIGHTING, AND COMING INTO THE ROOM DURING THE NIGHT. NOW, I DON'T BELIEVE IN UFOS OR ELVIS BEING ALIVE, BUT MY HUSBAND WAS ALARMED. TO MY AMUSEMENT HE SET UP A MOTION TRIGGERED CAMREA FOR THE NIGHTS. AFTER THREE NIGHTS THERE WERE PICTURES.THE LAST TWO PICTURES SHOWN ARE FROM THAT 'STAKEOUT'. AFTER SEEING THE BOY SEEMINGLY EXITING THE PAINTING UNDER THREAT, WE DECIDED, THE PAINTING HAS TO GO...

Link is here> http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/haunted_painting.html

It also has more detailed pics and an Interview with the paintings owner.

I think I would want to see such a painting in action myself before I make any conclusions.

What I really want to know is why the little girl is holding a battery?
Liod
I found what the painter himself said about it:

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Where to begin? Well I've always had a connection to what Carl Jung called the collective unconscious. I think we all do. Artists, especially visual artists, are barometers for the currents which run through this collective. Dreams are a common experience people may have with this. Anyway, my own experience is a sensitivity to place– physical, geographical place. There are memories, echoes of all the life within a place. Maybe it's what's called channeling. When I painted the Hands Resist Him in 1972, I used an old photo of myself at age five in a Chicago apartment. The hands are the 'other lives.' The glass door, that thin veil between waking and dreaming. The girl/doll is the imagined companion, or guide through this realm.

        Both the owner of the Gallery where 'Hands' was displayed and the Los Angeles Times art critic who reviewed my show were dead within a year of the show.

        I'm sure it was coincidence, but some of what I paint resonates in other people, opening the inner door, or basement. By the way, I still have no idea what happened to the character actor who bought the painting at the show (editor note: it was John Marley who died in 1984), or how it ended up abandoned in a building, though I could speculate.    - Bill


http://www.stonehamstudios.com/haunted.shtml

He doesn't mention the battery though...
passingover
QUOTE (Clearwitch @ Oct 11 2004, 08:39 AM)
I found what the painter himself said about it:
http://www.stonehamstudios.com/haunted.shtml

He doesn't mention the battery though...
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Who am I to say and all... But I honestly get the feeling that the their is more behind it than the artist is telling us.

He said he painted it about 30 years ago. Much can change with people over such a period of time for sure. I am thinking that once it meant things to him that he doesn't necessarily believe now or has soemwhat changed his beleifs on possibly?

Something interesting. Check out his galleries and you will see one painting which he labels as being like a sequel to this one ("hands").

Here is a link: http://www.stonehamstudios.com/resistance.shtml

It is very wierd to me how the entire feeling of it is so different. The hands are more random now. Before they weren't. No longer are they contained behind the window/door on one side. The doll is dissected as like a mask now by a hand, and the man seems in more control. Yet still threatened a little. Hard to explain but the whole feeling is just so different.
Liod
You're right...I think the second painting was equally creepy, myself, especially the big insects, and the way the doll is being violated. Like she's being hanged.
Vore
Yes....I agree. ;)
redragon
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Now a painter, calling herself Laura P, decided to make a painting from this picture. Despite odd feelings she proceeded to do this, and when finished, unexplainable things started happening to her and her surroundings, apparently linked to the painting. Some of these happenings were:

While the picture were hanging in her office, appointments were messed up, papers went missing, the painting would always hang crooked no matter how many times it was straightened. Eventually the co-workers had her bring the painting back home.


What I want to know is why would she hang such a dreadful painting in her office for her clients or co-workers to see. Sure it's a good conversation piece and a well-done piece of artwork, but c'mon, I'd be disturbed to see something like that. No wonder things happened, people get there imaginations working over time.
Liod
This story is a sweet one, I think, not creepy like the others.

Thisinconspicious painting hangs in an antique in Genoa... Apparently it's the favorite of a resident ghost. The shop owner was prepared to sell the painting, that belonged to her late mother, on three separate occasions. Each time a buyer came forth ready to purchase it, the painting would fall from the wall with a loud crash. The walls are solid wood and there was no reason for this to happen. Neither the frame nor the painting was ever damaged in any of the falls.

After this had happened for the third time the owner announced that someone was trying to tell her something and that she would not sell the painting. This must have made the ghost happy; the painting has not fallen since.

Besides the ghost who covets this painting, the Dake House is believed to be haunted by at least two other ghosts.

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