Liod
Oct 3 2004, 10:46 AM
Sang-vampires...HLV/RLV/you guys...are you really dependant on blood? I've een people complain loudly about not getting blood when they want it, not getting a donor, apparently suffering greatly...but, what happens if you don't get blood?
Temporary inconvenience, malnutrition, death? Can a HLV starve to death from lack of blood?
escoban
Oct 3 2004, 10:49 AM
I'm a noob sang and this is just my view on it,
I don't really go into a crisis or anything, I just feel hungry and thats about it (I ahven't really ever fed with blood regulary so I'm not that hooked yet)
Liod
Oct 3 2004, 11:04 AM
Does that make a difference though?
It almost sounds as if vampirism is an addiction, not a need...and in that case, abstinence would in time relieve you of your vampiric nature...just like abstinence from cigarettes will make you a nonsmoker...
madnessreinz
Oct 3 2004, 03:29 PM
I will only speak for myself on this.Ive been feeding on blood for many years.That being said,for me it is not an addiction.Its like taking in food only amplified.I have went for long periods of time without feeding from blood.I can and do feed from psi energy as well but Im very picky as to what type of energy I feed from.And how I feed from it.I can take in energy from a source without them realizing it,mainly when I do this I add my own energy to theirs,magnifying it then take in the excess that we have both created.It becomes much more pure when I do it this way.And Im not draining them,im actually leaving them feeling better than before.It can create a problem though,of the person being drawn to you wanting that good feeling that they shared with you again and again..
I know for a fact if and when I dont feed(wether from blood or psi) my own energy is limited.And im not very pleasant to be around.I wouldnt go as far to say it would kill me without it ,but I believe over a period of time.I wouldnt care if I was dead or alive and would wish for death.
For your question..can a HLV starve to death from lack of blood...I think it would depend on the individual and for how many years they have been feeding and to what degree they have been able to control the beast.
For those that are addicted to blood,I dont consider them HLV.It is just like any other addiction they could have.And could live without it,depending on the amount taken in and the affect it has on them.....BUT...there are differences in every situation..
For instance...I knew an alcoholic that had drank for 40 years..he fell down and broke his shoulder&colar bone needing surgery and was hospitalized, where he didnt have access to alcohol.He died withen 2 weeks.I firmly believe had he been allowed alcohol while he was there he would still be alive.His body over such a long period of time had gotten to the point where it depended on receiving it.Once he was no longer consuming it.His body couldnt compensate quickly enough leaving him weak and vulnerable.His nervous system went into shock.
Normally an addict can adjust their body to live without a drug whatever it may be.But I think it depends on several factors on how their body has processed that drug wether it has to be replaced with another to be able to compensate and live "normaly" whatever that means.
abstinence from a necessity of life will eventually kill you
eternal bliss
Oct 5 2004, 12:51 AM
...my only question is...human blood?..
ReVamp3d
Oct 5 2004, 02:14 AM
then theres the matter of 'THe Beast'...
Liod
Oct 5 2004, 05:40 AM
Tell about the beast, Revamped...what is it?
Morrigan Wolfe
Oct 7 2004, 01:23 PM
I'm just a bit apprehensive because I've only had blood once. Quite a while ago.....now I'm feeling tired, run out and weak. And I've been craving blood. My Husband is very happy to give it to Me, but I'm, well apprehensive. I don't know what effect it's having on Me. I need to hear from those who've experienced this......how did your life change, or did it, when you began to feed regularly? I have the feeling I need it. But although I've been Vamp-friendly for many years, I've never practiced until I had a person I could depend on and share blood with.
I want it. And I'm quite sure I will drink again very soon.....but what comes next?
mroysterhead
Oct 21 2004, 07:34 AM
Off topic, Clearwitch your beautiful.
Azriela
Oct 21 2004, 09:41 PM
I personally think that Vampirism for some modern vampires starts as craving . .and builds into a neccesity.
For instance . . chocolate tastes great . .I know it tastes great . . I indulge myself. After indulging for a little while it becomes a craving and after fulfilling all my cravings it becomes a dire need. If I dont have it; my mood is affected, my though process is corrupted, I become lethargice because I don't have the sugar . . etcetera . . .
Its the same thing with blood on some levels and for some modern day vampires I think.
Circle_Jerk
Nov 9 2004, 10:43 PM
i agree with Azriela somewhat. when i dont have any blood for a while i get to be a not so nice person. but now its kind of different i havent had blood for about two months, now i feal tired all of the time and every near the end of the day i feal like it would be ok for me to die i dont know if that is me missing blood or just simply me going crazy i cant tell anymore.
bloodsoakedrazor
Nov 9 2004, 11:09 PM
I think it varies from person to person..... I've read about people who've felt like they were literally dying due to lack of human blood. Some even becoming so desparate that they killed a bird with a rock and drank its blood (it was reported discusting and not reccomended, btw). But some people become withdrawn, others irritable, and still there's quite a few where blood isn't a necessity at all, more of a luxury than anything.
ReVamp3d
Nov 10 2004, 12:12 AM
QUOTE (Clearwitch @ Oct 5 2004, 03:40 AM)
Tell about the beast, Revamped...what is it?
here i posted this in another thread recently tell me what you think
QUOTE
There is a little confusion, even amongst Sanguines (RLV's/HLV's) as to the nature/existence of 'the beast'...... I think this fits into the same category that enhanced senses/abilities falls under. The Beast is the concept of the inner vampire needing to feed. It occurs when you have not been feeding properly/at all. It starts out as a craving for blood. It then moves into discomfort, even pain sometimes. If you let it go too long, it can begin to 'consume you' (this process can be rather speedy I might add) You have 'uncontrollable' urges to feed. Like the next thing that walks through the door is gunna be in for an unwanted surprise. You become irritable (to say teh least), sometimes panicky, you may sweat, or shake....
Now some of you may say 'well thats a load of bs' or 'how do we know this is real'
Well, I don't have all the answers, and I cannot give you exacting proof of 'the beast'. I can just say that I think it is something that can happen, though not likely very often. It has happened to me once, and it wasn't fun. I think the reason that it doesn't happen very much is because we somewhat automatically and definately subconsiously begin to psi feed to sustain ourselves on a minimal level, when we don't feed for extended periods of time. I think the beast occurs when our subconsious fails to feed automatically, or there isn't a sufficient source nearby.
This is however all just my opinion, I haven't based my ideas on any others that I have heard of to date.
http://www.sanguinarius.org is a good place to find some articles/posts dealing with the beast, and indeed most other problems Vampires encounter. A very good starting point for 'new' vampires.
If there are any other questions I can entertain feel free to ask :P
anything else my liege?
DarkStr68
Nov 10 2004, 12:41 AM
Many of us turn to alternative methods of feeding. Even if we don't notice it we may actually include ourselves in cirtain activities or social gatherings/events that we may usually find meaningless or stupid just to be with a large ammount of people. We may turn to a psionic feeding mode if our needs are not met for a period of time. But many of us are not capable of a psionic feeding so we suffer.
NightSky
Nov 10 2004, 01:40 AM
Does anyone here find that there is an extremely significant difference between how fresh blood and cold blood affect your body? I love the taste of warm blood directly from the source, and it always fills me with more energy and power. I feel more pure and healthy. However, one time at a small get-together with some friends with similar interests, some blood was drained into a glass. Blood tends to turn cold very quickly, and by the time it got to my lips, it wasn't warm anymore. Not only did it not taste good (very bitter, rather than sweet), I found myself feeling sick and drained of energy for the next couple of days. Has anyone else noticed this difference?
bloodsoakedrazor
Nov 10 2004, 11:05 AM
QUOTE (ReVamp3d @ Nov 10 2004, 01:12 AM)
here i posted this in another thread recently tell me what you think
anything else my liege?
that explains A LOT!!
thanks
bloodsoakedrazor
Nov 10 2004, 11:07 AM
QUOTE (VV_MoonlightVamp @ Nov 10 2004, 02:40 AM)
Does anyone here find that there is an extremely significant difference between how fresh blood and cold blood affect your body? I love the taste of warm blood directly from the source, and it always fills me with more energy and power. I feel more pure and healthy. However, one time at a small get-together with some friends with similar interests, some blood was drained into a glass. Blood tends to turn cold very quickly, and by the time it got to my lips, it wasn't warm anymore. Not only did it not taste good (very bitter, rather than sweet), I found myself feeling sick and drained of energy for the next couple of days. Has anyone else noticed this difference?
I agree with you completely! I've had the same experiance, well the drained blood was my own, I have more of a problem determining how much I drink when it's from myself. So just to be safe, one day I drained about 2 cups into a glass. IT WAS HORRIBLE!!!
nameless one
Nov 10 2004, 11:32 AM
to quote bloodsoakedrazor:
I think it varies from person to person..... I've read about people who've felt like they were literally dying due to lack of human blood.
I know thats the way it is for me and yes we/I do suffering greatly, and would die if I didn't get my intake, so I think it varies from person to person as well. As for the BEAST, kind of sounds like the stringing, may be same thing?
bloodsoakedrazor
Nov 10 2004, 03:46 PM
my beast is a psychotic and violent evil that i can barely control......
i get a little weak at times but nothing too serious.
Azriela
Nov 10 2004, 04:45 PM
The beast is just your body acting out against you in rage making you feed because of improper feeding habits or the lack of feeding habits.
Warm blood(i.e. Fresh Blood) is always better because it is coming directly from the source (well one can hope) it has more energy and is the closest thing we have to draining someone's life force directly. Cold blood is weakened in terms of nutrition becuase it has been away from the body for a long time. and is not a direct representation of what the living body produces because of its time away from the source.
I hope that makes sense.
And I have to agree with you, eery one is different but somethings are universal. If you are dependant on blood and then you don't feed for a while then your body will find a way to get your attention (for lack of better terminology) and you may be affected mentally and psychologically during the withdrawal process.
ReVamp3d
Nov 11 2004, 03:44 AM
QUOTE (bloodsoakedrazor @ Nov 10 2004, 09:05 AM)
that explains A LOT!!
thanks
no problem :)
Masochist
Nov 29 2004, 09:02 AM
Sang vamps "need" blood. It isn't something they do just for enjoyment. If a sang vamp doesn't get blood, then they become weak, sick, shaky, etc. Some sang vamps who are also Psi vamps are able to feed from energy and they are able to sustain themselves that way. A real sang vamp craves blood for sustanace.
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