i was just curious if anyone was going to celebrate Samhain on Halloween.


Me and a few friends are going to try and raise the dead. I wanna see if it actually works.

I have been studying Wicca for over six years, and still i havent done such a thing.


Hopefully it wont end up a mess.

I'm no Wiccan but I'm pretty sure that it doesn't include trying to raise the dead. In fact I'm sure most Wiccans would be horrified.

could you plz explain what samhain is alittle mroe precise for the ones that don't know?

The veil between the worlds is already thin enough now to do that easily. The veil thins between late September and early November coming to its climax in the last two weeks of October "at least for the Northern Hemisphere" the veil down near the equater wont thin up enough for anything impressive until mid October.

Well i'm not saying im a practical Wiccan, but i feel i can do those little things that do a big thing, in order to help me with a problem.

I'm not afraid of the consequences, and i feel i can do anything i please.

If it is thin enough, i will do everything in my power to break through.

As long as i have the propper spell nothing can go wrong.

But we'll see what happens.

I believe you mean to channel a spirit and make contact with the other side. well at least I hope that is what you mean. good luck, be careful and duck.

I honestly would not suggest you doing it. but thats my thoughts on the matter. do as you want. the only thing stopping you is you and yourself. just make sure you are truely sure of what you are doing. do it with out fear or self doubt.

A freindly reminder and warning about the veil "more than just the spirits of the dead reside on the other side." more than just small imps can come through now, they only need to be invited. So before you go about getting your house haunted by something you'll likely think is satan you may want to think carefullyon what and why you want to break through the veil. "I mean peircing it a little to speak with the other side is one thing but your wording raises some alarms for your safety."

but the main thing is "WHY" why do want to do this. If all your doing is playing around than may very likely attract something that wants to "play" with you. and I don't mean a game of chess.

The other side is not some Halloween playground of treats and harmless games, it is very dangerous and their are more than just one world out their remember the veil between the "worlds" is thin not just this world and the spirit world.

Be afraid and be humble.

and

Famous last words.




I think we need an emphasis here onthe word 'worlds'

Rhuen has given you a value piece of advice. If I were you. I'd take it. Try something a little less reckless first. Maybe in a few years try to open the spirit world. At this point I'd say you're not ready... but hey it's just one person humble opnion. Take it for what it's worth.

Good luck.

Ares: I'm not afraid of the consequences, and i feel i can do anything i please.

Anything supernatural listening: You should be, and no you can't do anything you please.

Ares:As long as i have the propper spell nothing can go wrong

Anything Supernatural: what Santuary said, "Famouse last words".

"not meaning to be mean or mocking but magic isn't a toy and I will empasize the point of other worlds now"
Magic will always cause many more problems than it can ever solve, and people who think it can solve ALL their problems are usually the ones that get picked out of the herd we call humanity by the supenatural. Just think of how much trouble a mere Quija board is capable of and its nothing but cardboard and plastic. Now think what might happen if you try playing with spells.

a hint look up "Leads Castle" or "Leeds Castle" not really sure how to spell that. But its just one example of what happens when you use magic to pry open the barrier between the WORLDS. You have no idea what might have happened at any point in history on the land you use the spell on. Or what for that matter the area you live in corresponds to in another world. "in short a house does not always connect to a house, it could connect a wilderness and even the smallest pest in some places can be a hellish nightmare to people in this world.

For those of us who don't really understand what the veil is or what exactly is involved in speaking with the dead can we get a little 101? :)

I don't and really can't explaine the physics behind the veil, but in a nut shell Our univers is one of many that exist simultaneously in space, however not all these places play by the same laws of physics as our own. So the energy fields of "their" worlds and our own "speaking of planets here not the whole universe" do not corispond and the difference in the magnetic field of our world and their worlds as well as some sub-atomic between the atoms energy field "like I said don't know the exact physics" but this energy acts as a barrier between realities keeping them from overlapping and affecting each other. however this barrier fluxuates in intensity "possibly affected by our planets orbit and relation to the sun and other celestial bodies." so dureing certain times of the year the barrier gets "thin" or weaker than normal allowing stronger or focused forces to pass from one side to the other and between alternate planes.

basically the veil is all around you at all times and with in and part of you, during these times of year some spells, rituals, or sheer will can allow "things" to pass from one side to the other easier than normal. But luckaly it takes intellence to open the veil and apparently anything from these other places thats smart enough to come here can figure out how to do at anytime. so it doesn't matter, but lesser creatures that are oblivouse to the veil can accidently be pulled through when someone tries to reach the other side.

most of the year this "playing" with Ouija boards and such can only contact stronger or closer beings. But dureing the time the veil is thin this can pull in more spirits and easier as well as other things.

lets put it this way, in the Hell of Living shadows their equivalent of a grasshopper can this world cause boils and burn marks on sleeping people.
remember the stories of people getting little scratches and burn marks from ghosts, these are not the higher ups and powerfull beings of the other worlds, these are nothing more than animals that get pulled in when people try to pry open the veil while it is thin.


or in short to answer the question the veil is the barrier between our reality and other realites that exists every where at all times "and its exact nature is unknown"

that was one of the best posts i have seen... you have nailed it down real good.

Ares, I wish you good luck in your endeavours, but please take every precaustion available to you.


Peace be with you.

First and foremost, Samhain [pronounced SOW-un] is basically like New Year's Eve for Pagans. It is the last day of the Pagan year.

Second, s a feast of the dead, it was believed the dead could, if they wished, return to the land of the living for this one night, to celebrate with their family, tribe, or clan. And so the great burial mounds of Ireland (sidh mounds) were opened up, with lighted torches lining the walls, so the dead could find their way. Extra places were set at the table and food set out for any who had died that year. And there are many stories that tell of Irish heroes making raids on the Underworld while the gates of faery stood open, though all must return to their appointed places by cock-crow.

Third, To Witches, Halloween is one of the four High Holidays, or Greater Sabbats, or cross-quarter days. Because it is the most important holiday of the year, it is sometimes called 'THE Great Sabbat.' It is an ironic fact that the newer, self-created Covens tend to use the older name of the holiday, Samhain, which they have discovered through modern research. While the older hereditary and traditional Covens often use the newer name, Halloween, which has been handed down through oral tradition within their Coven. [This is often holds true for the names of the other holidays, as well. One may often get an indication of a Coven's antiquity by noting what names it uses for the holidays.]


With such an important holiday, Witches often hold two distinct celebrations. First, a large Halloween party for non-Craft friends, often held on the previous weekend. And second, a Coven ritual held on Halloween night itself, late enough so as not to be interrupted by trick-or-treaters. If the rituals are performed properly, there is often the feeling of invisible friends taking part in the rites. Another date which may be utilized in planning celebrations is the actual cross-quarter day, or Old Halloween, or Halloween O.S. [Old Style]. This occurs when the sun has reached 15 degrees Scorpio, an astrological 'power point' symbolized by the Eagle. The celebration would begin at sunset. Interestingly, this date [Old Halloween] was also appropriated by the Church as the holiday of Martinmas.