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Sanctuary
Ok not sure if this post belongs here, but I'm thinking yes?

Basically I need some assistance and perhaps in helping you will be able to educate people on the topic at the same time. Two birds, one stone.

Situation:

I killed my x bf in a past life. I was never sure of it until recently. Quite possibly I murdered him in the last life for the same reasons I hate him in this one.

Frankly as far as I am concerned that debt is paid in full after having to deal with him again in this life.

Is it possible even to cleanse a past life, it's negative effects etc? If so what is required to acheive it?
Liod
My mother has had some of the same problem...with her mother, in her case.

Apparently, several lives ago, they were neighbours, my grandmother stole something from my mother, but weasled out of it, and the item was never returned. Now nobody can carry a grudge like my mother. She's extreme.

In all the lives after this she's resented the thief, and found herself placed with my grandmother in some sort of close situation...boss and worker, sisters-in-law, in this case, mother and daughter. And in each and every life, they've resented each other, or at least my mother has deeply resented my grandmother. My grandmother, this round at least, is just cool and distant.

My mother also has a deep fear of things being stolen from her, she starts every visit at my house with scouring the bookshelves for that one book she can't find at home. Now this is pbviously a rather bad situation. They're being forced together in life after life until the issue is resolved and they can move on.

My mother finally realised this, and is working on forgiving my gradmother and moving on, letting it go. It's a process, like everything else.

I don't know what you should do that, it may be he needs to forgive you for what you did, or, since he was mean to you, you might have to forgive him for that. Don't waste time and energy on hating him, let it go. Forgive him for everything he's done to you, and forgive yourself for what you did to him.
Silver
QUOTE (Sanctuary @ Sep 30 2004, 12:16 AM)
Is it possible even to cleanse a past life, it's negative effects etc? If so what is required to acheive it?
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Not that I buy much into the "karmic debt" theory....but from what I've read, there's no "quick fix" or "ultimate karmic cleansing" you can do or perform.

There are however, steps you can take to cut your own ties to the guilt you feel you carry from past transgressions against others. Karma has allot to do with how you feel about certain actions or things you've done. I'm guessing that it's not something you can do half-heartedly...but if you earnestly put forth energy into breaking the bonds, instead of putting it into your guilt, there's no reason why a simple meditation or two couldn't relief you of your burden.

Here's a link to a simple meditation to get you started.
Rhuen
A past life debt can only be solved two ways that I know of.

1. you pay the debt.

2. the other "being" does something to void the debt. "such as if they saved your life in one lifetime than they tried to kill you in another you wouldn't owe them anything." or in your case "speaking to the original poster" you would need the person to forgive you "or their eternal soul to forgive you actually".

As for the theft. the item must have been of some importance to the soul. replaceing it with an item of simlular importance would work "of course this attachment to a physical object to the extent of following each other from life to another would result in a haunting of the said object if it was returned. Which doesn't make sense from one life to another so I would say some other animosity must exist between their souls to cause them chase each other into each life, the theft may have been more than a mere object.
Sanctuary
QUOTE (silver_lips @ Sep 30 2004, 10:22 AM)
Not that I buy much into the "karmic debt" theory....but from what I've read, there's no "quick fix" or "ultimate karmic cleansing" you can do or perform.

There are however, steps you can take to cut your own ties to the guilt you feel you carry from past transgressions against others. Karma has allot to do with how you feel about certain actions or things you've done. I'm guessing that it's not something you can do half-heartedly...but if you earnestly put forth energy into breaking the bonds, instead of putting it into your guilt, there's no reason why a simple meditation or two couldn't relief you of your burden.

Here's a link to a simple meditation to get you started.
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Silver lips. Brilliant! Thank-you! This is a great start for me.

I actually had a long talk with my Grandmother today. (who by the way oddly hated this guy with a fiery passion the moment she set eyes on him. She found him to have an empty soul as she called it. Cruel and black as hate.) Whenever I asked her about why she didn't like him she'd reply. "It's really not that I don't like him. I just don't like him with you." Very diplomatic answer I always thought.)

After I spilled everything that had gone over the last several years. We had a long talk. Apparently it's beyond Karma.

The past history and present day collide:

I know why I killed him in a past life. He was (personality wise) just like he is in this life... a skilled manipulator and mentally/emotional abusive.) Yet for some reason in this lifetime I choose to walk away but in the past lifetime in a fit of anger... I stabbed him once for every week we were together. (Brutal I know.) After, I felt very badly about it. (Once the anger had past.)

Back to the talk with Grandy.

She feels, (due too all the circumstances I got into with her today; which were extensive) that he's bruja. (A male type of witch) only he probably doesn't know it. So the effects I am feels aren't just stemming for Karma but from something deeper.

Dealing with the straight Karma now seems far easier than what I'm about to have to do.

It's going to take nearly two cycles of the moon to complete.

Look at it all:

The first thing I have to do is collect everything he's ever given me and get rid of it. (The a particular way I have to do it too.) I am to have absolutely not further contact with him at all. (If he e-mails I am to delete in straight off. So, I've set a rule in place to do that for me in my e-mail box.) It will involve that meditation you gave above, 2 different protection spells along with a energy protection spell, a reversal spell for whatever he's inadvertently done to me, loads of meditation, a cleansing of myself, my car and my living environment. The cleansing will include a sacrifice of something I enjoy. (Similar to Catholic lent.) A binding spell and a few other neat things.

Most importantly a will of unbendable iron and a load of energy. (Can we say exaughstion?)

I believe what you write above silver lips to be very accurate. You can't try something like this 'lightly' nor will it be easy at all but apparently guilt does play a role in suseptability to things.

Okay wow this was a novel.

But this is certainly gonig to prove to be an interesting exercise to say the least.

I'll ahve to let you all know how it turns out.
Sanctuary
QUOTE (Clearwitch @ Sep 30 2004, 12:53 AM)
My mother has had some of the same problem...with her mother, in her case.

......

My mother finally realised this, and is working on forgiving my gradmother and moving on, letting it go.  It's a process, like everything else. 

I don't know what you should do that, it may be he needs to forgive you for what you did, or, since he was mean to you, you might have to forgive him for that.  Don't waste time and energy on hating him, let it go.  Forgive him for everything he's done to you, and forgive yourself for what you did to him.
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I feel for your mom, it's so hard to get past things... especially a past life thing. We rarely remember them in full detail. (At least on a concious level) So it becomes difficult to get the full picture and therefore a full understanding of the situation.

True... wasted energy on hate and I don't like the way it feels... it's like something creeping into your veins that doesn't belong there. Dirty icky feeling.

Part of the process I am using involves forgiving both him and me. I unfortunatly cannot control his forgivness of me for the past life, that's in his hands to deal with and I'm glad that I can recognize that... but for my part, that's what I am gonig to be trying to do once I've cleansed and released all the blockages and everthing.

Forgiveness is such a powerful thing.

Once again you give sound advice clearwitch. :)
Sanctuary
QUOTE (Rhuen @ Sep 30 2004, 06:14 PM)
A past life debt can only be solved two ways that I know of.

1. you pay the debt.

2. the other "being" does something to void the debt. "such as if they saved your life in one lifetime than they tried to kill you in another you wouldn't owe them anything." or in your case "speaking to the original poster" you would need the person to forgive you "or their eternal soul to forgive you actually".

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I vote for curtain number 2 please... I think this debt has gone way past debt and into vengence now. (Him to me.) I think like me, he remembers and it's gone beyond payback.
Night Eagle
QUOTE (Sanctuary @ Sep 30 2004, 04:16 AM)
Ok not sure if this post belongs here, but I'm thinking yes?

Basically I need some assistance and perhaps in helping you will be able to educate people on the topic at the same time. Two birds, one stone.

Situation:

I killed my x bf in a past life. I was never sure of it until recently. Quite possibly I murdered him in the last life for the same reasons I hate him in this one.

Frankly as far as I am concerned that debt is paid in full after having to deal with him again in this life.

Is it possible even to cleanse a past life, it's negative effects etc? If so what is required to acheive it?
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past lives are there for you to know what not to do. they are for learning expeariences. do not hold onto the past. let is go. what happened then is not now. and not this life time. walk forward. what happend is but an echoe. learn and walk on.
Sanctuary
QUOTE (Night Eagle @ Oct 1 2004, 01:27 PM)
past lives are there for you to know what not to do. they are for learning expeariences. do not hold onto the past. let is go. what happened then is not now. and not this life time. walk forward. what happend is but an echoe. learn and walk on.
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That my friend is very wise. I thank-you. :)
Night Eagle
QUOTE (Sanctuary @ Oct 2 2004, 01:37 AM)
That my friend is very wise. I thank-you. :)
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thank you for the compliment
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