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Lyssiah Stormwhisper
I have my own opinions of course as all of you do...but I need a little bit of assistance. Not much. Here's the story:

A few years ago, a few friends and I were doing a bit of drinking...(alcohol, not blood). One of my friends wound up hyperventalating, and nearly dying. Of course I took what action I could...I started meditating, next to my friend....keeping my hand on her shoulder. about 10 minutes into it, I felt much more drunk, and she seemed to be feeling better.

Of course this is the first of a few times something like this happened. Is this psi, or something else entirely? such as group psycosis?

Lyssiah Stormwhisper
escoban
Whoa, how nice that you can do stuff like that...

but I think psi doesn't contain stuff that could make you phisicaly drunk,
maybe you just transefered her feelings, and the feelings were "drunkness"

my theory...
Ravager
Does alcohol tolerance makes you think a bit?

There are different ways to get rid of the effects of alcohol...

And I think it isn't psi, because alcohol isn't an emotional state...
Liod
I wouldn't call it psi, though I'm a bit unsure about what you mean by the term "psi" here...if it's energy? If what is energy?

My guess would rather be a form of healing, you absorbing not his energy, but his drunkenness, the alcohol in his body. Much in the same way as a healer will extract the disease from a sick person.

If this is a recurring thing, as you imply, I would not only suggest you and your friends use a bit more caution around alcohol, but also learn how to ground. An untrained healer will absorb the sickness, a trained (and infiniately healthier) healer will extract it, and expose of it, somewhere outside him/herself. That way you yourself won't be affected by it.
Efkie
I have been able to give someone my energy and heal them, but I have never been able to take "psi" and get sick off of it. I dont think that physical feelings have anything to do with ur psi.
Night Eagle
QUOTE (Lyssiah Stormwhisper @ Sep 27 2004, 06:17 AM)
I have my own opinions of course as all of you do...but I need a little bit of assistance.  Not much.  Here's the story:

A few years ago, a few friends and I were doing a bit of drinking...(alcohol, not blood).  One of my friends wound up hyperventalating, and nearly dying.  Of course I took what action I could...I started meditating, next to my friend....keeping my hand on her shoulder.  about 10 minutes into it, I felt much more drunk, and she seemed to be feeling better.

Of course this is the first of a few times something like this happened.  Is this psi, or something else entirely?  such as group psycosis?

Lyssiah Stormwhisper
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that is a basic healing energy work. to remove the pioson and bring it into yourself.
Vore
Future Science possibilities:

Undiscovered ability of organisms to speed up the metabolic process of another through thought transferance traveling through the nervous system (nuronal clusters have recently been discovered in the stomach and spine the purpose of which may well be part of metabolic control and fast nerve responce). (possible humans evolved alongside other humans as social animals that help each other survive by passing on instructions in many ways)

Ability to actively extract alchohol and poisons through the skin (not likely at all).

Or....modern science: Placing a calming hand on someone to slow their heart rate from a blind panic and induce a placebo effect that raises endorphins....panic draws blood away from the outer extremities like the limbs and the skin to those places most needed for survival like the heart, lung and brain....as this blood contains alchohol in this case then more alchohol goes to the brain if they are panicked than if they are calm. So simply calming them down from a panic attack will allow them to recover from alchohol poisoning.
redragon
This could be a case of mind over matter. You believed you could help your friend by doing this and like Vore said, "Or....modern science: Placing a calming hand on someone to slow their heart rate from a blind panic and induce a placebo effect that raises endorphins....panic draws blood away from the outer extremities like the limbs and the skin to those places most needed for survival like the heart, lung and brain....as this blood contains alchohol in this case then more alchohol goes to the brain if they are panicked than if they are calm. So simply calming them down from a panic attack will allow them to recover from alchohol poisoning."

Just by being there and supporting your friend was a good thing. Just be carefull with the booze next time. Alcohol can make people do some crazy stuff. I've been there.
Nemesis Chylde
Interesting question. I've done something similar when my cats were sick and near death.

Although, rather than taking the pain and (as it was with them) inability to breathe into myself...I simply concentrated on opening their lungs' passages, so that they could breathe.
Vore
QUOTE (Nemesis Chylde @ Oct 6 2004, 03:13 AM)
Interesting question.  I've done something similar when my cats were sick and near death.

Although, rather than taking the pain and (as it was with them) inability to breathe into myself...I simply concentrated on opening their lungs' passages, so that they could breathe.
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So.....they told you that it worked?

And if it did work.....How would you know that the exact same thing wouldn't have happened whether you did it or not?

If I shout "Munchousen!!!" at the top of my voice and a man falls off a ladder and dies then...ok...I probably made him fall off that ladder.

But if I had whispered "bubbleduck" twelve miles away and he had still fallen off the ladder and died...can I still be considered the cause?

What if I'd shouted "Squandercrank!" and he'd not fallen off the ladder? Could I say that I'd saved his life?

It follows the same logic...
escoban
oh vore ur such a great flamer :D

but he does have a point, to much of this stuff is subject to possible coincidentiality,

but hey, what isn't?
Vore
QUOTE (escoban @ Oct 6 2004, 07:56 PM)
oh vore ur such a great flamer :D

but he does have a point, to much of this stuff is subject to possible coincidentiality,

but hey, what isn't?
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twas not a flame...twas a metaphore...the fire of thought perhaps...any sarcastic tone only incidental....

I was somewhat excited at the interesting thought of Nem using her hands to revive her pussy...um...her cat...
escoban
I am sure she can revive her pussy with her hands ;)
about the cats, I don't know, I shoul've been there to state an objective opinion :)
Nemesis Chylde
Vore - they were near death and struggling to breathe. I don't need a voice to tell me that it worked...when I can see with my own eyes that they are no longer struggling to draw breath through phlegm-drowned lungs.

For all I know, my touch could have calmed them enough to help them breathe, it's certainly possible, but I do know that when I was merely comforting them, instead of concentrating, they were still struggling.

Personally, I don't care about the whys and the hows of it. I don't care if it was me, if it was physical, magical or energy-related. I only care that they are still here.

As far as reviving my pussy....well, I'm not the only one who can lay hands on it to do that trick...in fact, it works much better if it is someone else. *winks*
Vore
Kitty kitty sit on my lap I shall make you purr...

If I had known that laying on hands could revive cats I'd of done it to mine....though they were both pretty much wafer thin on account of being run over....my poor kitties....probably having fun chasing souls in hell *sigh*...
Morrigan Wolfe
QUOTE (Lyssiah Stormwhisper @ Sep 27 2004, 02:17 AM)
I have my own opinions of course as all of you do...but I need a little bit of assistance.  Not much.  Here's the story:

A few years ago, a few friends and I were doing a bit of drinking...(alcohol, not blood).  One of my friends wound up hyperventalating, and nearly dying.  Of course I took what action I could...I started meditating, next to my friend....keeping my hand on her shoulder.  about 10 minutes into it, I felt much more drunk, and she seemed to be feeling better.

Of course this is the first of a few times something like this happened.  Is this psi, or something else entirely?  such as group psycosis?

Lyssiah Stormwhisper
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Basic healer101.....keep working on it. You're obviously naturaly suited to healing. Try sending balance and perfection instead of absorbing. It is up to the patient to either accept and heal or reject and remain as they are. If you do work better absorbing you might picture/feel bands of energy around your forearms that do not allow the negativity to enter all of the way into you (IE: making you more drunk). I would then place My hands on the ground when finished and release the illness/toxins to the earth for transmutation.

PS-People will always argue with you that you can't do what you are doing. Do it anyway. The more it works for you the more confident you will become.
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