Well everyone talks about how to kill sanguinaruius vampires but no one ever touches on what may be able to hurt/kill a psi vampire.

Personally I think that decapitation would still apply, other than that you'd pretty much have to lock them up in a cave in the forest(because they can feed from afar).

what are your thoughts?

Physically psi vamps kan be hurt or killed in any way a human can.
Psi vamps are not immortal.

thanks.

Please bear in mind that I have no vendetta against Psi Vamps, the person that I
love the most can be regarded as a Psi and I would die for him. This is just my curiosity.

Anymore theories . . .???

You can kill him as you would kill a real vampire...

Psivampires are ordinary, normal humans....like Ragonesth said, they can be killed any way any other human can.

If you mean in the mythological sense, I don't think there are any myths on psivampires...they're a rather new thing, really.

Thank you for saying that Clear, I was talking about the mythological sense of things.

I'll look it up but I believe it's said that these are stronger than traditional vampires that feed of blood or flesh. Which would mean they'd be harder to kill unless tricked into being caught. Like I said, I'll look it up again.

:rolleyes: Oh no, it's a VERY intricate process .. First, you have to tell them you love them, and want to marry them. Then they have to snort. While their busy snorting, take an ice pick, plunge it through their heart, and yell very loudly, " YAHOOOOOooo!" Then, when the cops come, and see the STILL snorting psi-vamp, they'll know what happened, so don't worry. Then you spend a nice time in a jail cell for the rest of your life, eyes duck-taped to your forhead and forced to watch episodes of STAR GATE ... for..EVER. Im not joking! Im serious! 1%!

Read above, you'll find something like "psi vamps are like humans"

mythologically there are many sorts of predatory spirits, daemons, djin, etc. all over the place. by that i mean spookies which take energy or soul or life force out of people. most of these spectres are non-physical beings though. some are physical beings though.

how do you kill them??
in most cases the being is not physical, and so can't be killed, only warded off.
there is an account of a man killing a lamia with a hidden dagger as she went to feed on him though.

thing is, those aren't really 'psi vamps'.
But then again 'Revenants' and and sanguine real vampires aren't all that similar either.
anyway, there's hundreds of life-stealing spooks in mythology.

Kath

I agree with you Kath, but you probably could have figured that one out.

I wanted to stay out of this thread because I think I may rustle some feathers (i really dont mean to)... But I wish to put my two pennies in here as well....

I'm just wondering why your mate (your man) never explained any of this to you.. He is a homo sapien as the rest of us is he not? A psi-vampire is just as mortal as anyone. In fact, I find that there are a lot of confused people out there who think they are psi-vamps because they feed psychically.. But the fact is, that pretty much anyone, with a little practice, can drain someone... It just takes a bit of practice in the psychic department. I'm not saying this is the case with your bf/husband but just that I've come across it in the past.

As for locking him/her up in a far off place... It wouldn't do much if the vampire is strong enough to be able to feed from afar (i dont mean across the street), because they can still feed astrally.. In fact, my donor is in mexico right now, so I cannot feed from her, and the only way I can right now, is feed and be fed from, astrally, from a friend in another part of the country. My point being, it doesn't really matter where a vampire is (unless they are in a seriously weakened state when you lock them up) in the world., they can still feed.... Not to mention the fact that they do not have to feed from humans.... Just as sanguines do not necessarily have to feed from humans.

Which is all moot anyhow, because if you do decide to go as far as kidnapping and killing another human being (for w/e reason) and facing jail for the rest of your life, it doesn't really matter how you get rid of them, cuz it will still be murder... So you are just as well as to pickup an HK MK23 Socom .45acp and blow their fucking brains out the back of their head :D

i was just speculating to myself that this topic is not onee widely spoken of, i understand the fact that he is humans so it won't be hard. I was talking about mythology because the mythological attributes of vampirism are discussed widely on this board.

And he can feed from ridiculous distances, and i do understand the astral projection and as I said in a post somewhere else that it is not hard for a psi to feed from afar, especialy if they have a "bond" with their donor, mate, friendor whoever it is that they feed from.

okies :D sounds good hehe.... you are right about the bond thing.. its hard to feed from someone or have them feed from you astrally (from a great distance mind you :P) if you don't have a 'certain bond' with that donor. But man, astral feeding is some mighty cool shit lol....astral studies in general are really cool hehe

Yes they astral studies is great and feeding that way is great but it really is hard to develop . . . I'm not well learned in that respect yet.

All things come in time :smiles:

:pounces on you:

I will learn, hopefully.

*Looks at Azriela over his head* :D

If you have any questions feel free to ask me.

Thanks for the offer, I'll be sure to take you up on it.


:bites you:

*bows*

*secretly enjoys ecstasy of the bite*

:censored:

:devilnaughty:

torture is not being made to watch StarGate - it's being deprived of StarGate.

Back on topic, I'd have to say that the best way to kill a psi is bad energy. Think about it for a minute - loads of psychotic energy would drive a psi insane.

Then simply lock it up and throw away the key. we are mortal after all.

(mythological psi? I guess lock up th coffin.... not sure really)

there's no real difference between 1 mile and 10,000 miles. anything beyond visual range requires a 'connection' or bond as you put it, but it does not weaken over 'any' distance. Which makes me think it occurs outside our perception/understanding of distance and volume.


some psi's have a prefference for one sort of energy or another, and some dislike some sorts of energy. Personally I like pretty much every sort of energy that can come out of a person.

question: how exactly do you propose to force feed a psi with incompatible energy?
not saying its impossible for someone to be incompatible with some type of energy, and not saying it would be absolutely impossible to force it into someone's energy body... i just don't see how?

Kath

Just to add to Kath's statement here...how would you lock up and prevent a psi from feeding? Like she said, physichal distances are irrelevant, the link is all that's needed...

Kath already asked how to put it in someone body.
I have another thing about this.

Every kind of energy can be transformed.
If a psi can transform the energy, you are just giving the psi energy.
This way you won't kill him/her, but only help them.

They'd probably thank you for it.

Greets,
Ragonestyrh.

To follow up the bad energy idea...is it possible for a psi to 'overdose'? Overload the system, so to speak?

I don't know Clear.
I don't think so.
If you put to much sugar in water, the water won't absorb the sugar anymore.
Maybe full is full.
I have never reached my top, so I don't know if I could go over it (overload).
To overload a psi, you would probably still have to force the energy into him/her.
Like Kath already said, I don't know if it is possible.
If someone can absorb energy, he/she can probably also reject it.

Greets,
Ragonestyrh.

Well, as Kath can testify, I'm a 'pusher' energy-wise. So at least for a less experienced psi, it should be possible for me to force-feed energy, with or without consent...I think?

If overloading is possible, you would be able to do so.
The only question now is if overloading is possible.
I'd like to find out more of it, however, where do I find a "pusher" as you call it.
How many people can do that?

Greets,
Ragonestyrh.

Uhm...I don't know. There might be a lot, or there might be very few, I've never thought of checking...

i like the water and sugar analogy :P I was thinking that myself when i was reading. I think that while the idea of pushing into someone, is intriguing, it is also unlikely. I think that for this to be even possible, your victim would have to be a really weak psi, and you would have to be a very strong one.... Or rather you would have to be someone, WELL experienced with energy working.

that had crossed my mind too, but I'm trying to make shorter 'bite sized' posts so people read them :P


I think its more often called 'overfeeding', and there are plenty of psi vamps who say you can do this. I can't say one way or the other since, like Ragon, i have never reached a 'ceiling' for my personal energy (and i've gone pretty darn high ;) )
The only ill side effect from going up to a really high energy level (for me at least) is that it can cause me not to feel sleepy or tired, even though the body is just dying for a break. At the most I think I have gone about 48 hours without beginning to feel tired. I've stayed up longer, but with very high energy i've gone that long without really feeling the effects at all.


shielding works pretty well for blocking that, if the psi would *want* to block it ;)


In theory anyone could push, even a psi vamp. just as anyone could draw energy, even a very high energy person. It feels like a 'probe' more or less. I've known several people who went around probing people unconciously, like as a default setting. sort of like how psi vamps can go around feeding on people unconciously.

Kath :meow:

Agreed.
But how are they going to force-feed an intentional psi-vamp.
An intentional probably knows more about dealing with energy then an unintentional one.
They would know if anyone tried to force-feed them.
And are probably able to do something against it. (There already pops-up 3 ways to do it in my mind)


So, these people would probably stand no chance against a advanced psi.

If I look at it this way, overloading a psi can only be done if the psi is weak (or an unintentional one, 'cause they don't know what they are doing) and the "pusher" is quite strong/experienced in dealing with energy.

Anyway, I think it would be a bad advice to give anyone for stopping/killing a psi vamp.


Greets,
Ragonestyrh.

It'll be like killing someone by throwing candy at them. Eventually, if they eat it all, they will suffer from malnutrition and obesity...but there's a whole lot of circumstances that needs to click, not to mention the vast supply of candy you'd need.

Candy?
Can it be cookies? I like cookies. Chocolate cookies.
Mmmm. Yeah.
Ohoh, no, leave the cookies.
I don't want to die a cause of cookies.
Guilty as charge.
Death sentence: Death by cookies.
Hahaha.

Seriously, I totally agree with ya.

Greets,
Cookiemonster Ragonestyrh.

You have no idea the amount of self-restraint I have to use to not start spamming about cookies now....cookies...

Watch out Clearwitch.
Don't spam to much about cookies.
It may result in a overdose.
Overloading the system with crrzzzh zcccreaooook coooozzzkkkie coookiezzz.
COOKIES.

:help:

exactly. If I were shot in the heart, do you honestly think I would...well...it is possible, but like he said. We're not immortal or anything, nothing is.

I can think of a number of ways off the top of my head too. i mentioned one of those to Clear, 'shielding' (assuming the psi vamp would *want* to stop incoming energy ;))
I was more speaking to the question of where can you find a person who can push energy. Really anyone who learns any amount of energy manipulation could push energy.


erm... well, anyone who is unintentional about some bit of energy manipulation may have an aptitude for that technique, but if they're clueless of it they won't do as well as someone who knows what they're doing, no.


that's a fair assessment ya.
and then there's the question of how it might do harm to be overloaded? is it a matter of sheer quantity? ive never found that quantity myself, and i not uncommonly go for the energy-high buzz. or maybe it has more to do with an energy of a destructive nature? something like bottled sun-aura :P hehe


ahh, you mention stopping a psi vamp, actually that's not very hard at all, and i know how :) and anyone with minimal practice in energy manipulation can do it effectively against all but the most advanced psi vamps :) Its so easy it sounds bogus, but it's very effective.
no, not a shield...
Kath

clear as a witch i would think u would know how to over feed and force feed any psi vamp it can be done

To kill a Psi I would have thought the most direct way would be to poison the energy they feed on. I'm fairly sure the right level of negativity will eventually kill at least an empath, anyway.

I bet Psi's have some severely weird experiences in places where lots of people have died horribly.

Energy can be transformed.
So, poisonning the energy don't seem like a good idea.
Same as overloading.
A advanced psi knows how to transform it.
And how are you going to poison it?
Negativity?

There are a lot of different psi's with a lot of different ways to feed.
How do you know that your way of poisonning it will work on the psi?

It's always easy to kill the body, but what about the "aura"?

I am very curious how you intent to do so.

Greets,
Ragonestyrh.

What about mind over matter, ragon? A simple decision, that the energy will be poisonous to the psi, if the intent is pure and the will is strong, it should theoretically work.

Theoretically it could . . . but Psi's should be able to sense begative energy and back away from it theoretically as well.

Even if you forcefeed? Is it possible to forcefeed a psi?

In a weird way I think that it is . . . sometimes they may have to in order to preserve themselves or to get something out of the "person being fed upon" so to speak. But at the same time how can you force someone to partake of something if they don't want to.

I must go think about that some more . . its an interesting thought.

I was thinking...if you bombard a psivamp with energy...or like reversed feeding...create a link and feed them through it, instead of feeding on them? Everything can be reversed...

I get it now .. . that's an interesting concept Clear. I certainly haven't thought about it before.

That IS an interesting concept indeed.

It is indeed.
Well, maybe the only way to find out is to try it.
Not to the end of course, but just far enought to see what happens.
Only, such test is not representative for all psi vamps.
However, if it works for more experienced vamps, it should also work on
the not so experienced ones.

How does it work Clear?
Maybe I can test some of it with my old mentor.

Greets,
Ragonestyrh.