Now I've grown up all my life reading comics, watching the Saturday morning toons, and now the comic movies and the only thing i can think of is that I WANT POWERS!!! Now i know this seems childish but i'm trying to find a religion that can make you powerful. I'm not talking like Wolverine and Spiderman(I'm not that dumb) But I am talking about getting/becoming something you weren't born with/as. I'm serious about this. I'm 19 years old, been in college for two years and I'm completely serious. I want to be powerful:)

I believe that it is not a matter of finding something we weren't born with, but rediscovering our true selves before we learned how to think compulsively

Well.. This seams funny. Well, seeing as though the media has basically broadcasted all this, 'fluff' into your head. Okay, nevermind. Rambling. I've been into magick for about one year. And the most I can do is summon a storm. If you can count that as powerfull. It all depends on your definition of, 'power'. Such as, what you think you would consider to be powerfull. There is no religion that will do that. However, there are other practices that do such. Religion builds faith. Not power. You're not going to get any type of supernatural power that you see any were on T.V. However, the most you could do is telepathy. Which take about 5 years to get good at depending on how much he or she spends daily practicing it.

So often this desire to be something you aren't seems to turn destructive for the one expressing it. Just an unsolicited warning, submitted respectfully enough I hope.

If you gain knowledge that you didn't have before, would that be considered power to you also?

Good luck on finding what you need.

THe reason i wrote about the comics is to decribe where this want of powers came from. Every kid has wanted to have some magical powers, i mean look at the media. BUt i also wanted to just bring it out into the open because i knew most of you here would think i was just a kid. I'm not though, i know that I'm not Harry Potter:) but i also know that this world has more in it than i know about. I believe that i can find what i'm looking for if i look hard enough. THat's what i'm doing now, just looking. If anyone else here thinks the same way respond, I'm dieing to know what everyone thinks.
So about the telepathy, how can i go about starting that?

Personally i don't see anything wrong with the pursuit of power at all. Its all very well and good and perfectly mainstream amoung dark spiritualists. Remember, power does not corrupt, it only free's your inhibitions, you are more of what you really are with power.

anyway, how to get it...

knowledge is power.
now that may sound weak, i mean so what if I know why the sky is blue, right? But what of more pertinant knowledge? like knowledge of the future? knowledge of the emotions or thoughts of others? knowledge of the dynamics of personal energy interaction? knowledge of 'effective' magick working/energy manipulation? knowledge of energy based healing techniques? knowledge of altered states for any of many purposes? knowledge of spiritual beings and their interactions with us?

personally, i believe its 100% possible (in concept) to know enough of the future to possibly rape the gambling casinos. Or to enter an altered state where your physical strength 'limiters' or 'safeties' are turned off making you twice if not three times as strong as you could normally be (albeit at high risk to injury). Or to genuinely read a person's mind, maybe not entirely, but enough to piece together their internal diaglogue.

actually i've done 2 out of those 3. still dream of raping casinos though...

ultimately, the long term ultimate goal of my religeous path is to attain a sort of transcendant shift of perception & understanding of the nature of existence. I'd liken this to a circle on a 2 dimensional universe suddenly becomeing 'aware' to the greater realm of spheres. In theory, the more drastic the difference in understanding of existence the more disproportionate the capability to act on reality. I'd envision such a shift of conciousness as akin to deification.

Kath

WEll how can i do any of that?! That is exactly what i want, what I've always wanted. I don't have anyone around here who has any interest in anything other than Christianity. I need a teacher. U free Kath?

I could teach you...but I'd have to charge.

Power does not make you happy...equilibrium is so much harder to find when you can tip the scales with a thought without heeding the consequences.

What you really need is a quest...A journey that brings a result but also teaches you how to cope with it when you get there....For such 'powers' as you perhaps seek the cost can be sanity itself.

I'm quoting this because it needed more emphasis on it.

Sanity is something relativly easy to lose be you novice or experienced if you go about things too lightly, and can be one of the hardest things to recover.

But i'm not going about it lightly, this is my life. I want this more than anything. I'm in college now so i can learn about humans from a psychological perspective. I'm trying to learn as much about myself as i can scientifically. After that i want to find out what else i can do. I want to do this, it's my dream

uhhh
hmmm
most things... would take so very long to explain.
and most things depend on experience with other related things too. I must admit i have not given enough thought to how to share accumulated knowledge, i'm still more in 'learning mode' myself. But then i don't think i will ever 'graduate' from learning mode. I'm more curious than pridefull.

http://www.geocities.com/kathrynck/shielding101.html
I have a little tiny bit on that webpage, and the 201 linked to by it.
its just some rudimentary energy manipulation for the purpose of shielding and related techniques.

I think that if you look to one source for all the answers, you'll be going at it very differently than i have. maybe it would make more sense if i tried to figure out an outline of how i go about learning, rather than try to teach all i know. ya know?


tempting as that is, i'd hate to interweave that ulterior motive in any ideas i share ;) call it a moment of altruistic weakness


so very true. power does not make you happy. neither will posessions, or fame, or love even... real happiness is something that comes from within.


I moderately dissagree.
is equilibrium intrinsicly submissive to 'the external'?
or is equilibrium intrinsicly dominant & resistant to 'the external'?
I think its the latter personally. and in that opinion, i find that 'power' and ballance can go hand in hand, or even be symbiotic.
but then the vedics would agree with you. I for one seek self empowerment and growth and self realization rather than the destruction of the ego. This is the basic difference of philosophy between dark spiritualists and most eastern mystic paths.


life is the best teacher i think. just do it. you'll screw up sometimes. that's life.
by the way, I'm wreckless and aggressive when it comes to learning. IMO much of the 'patience' touted by so many guru's is simply an 'easy out' for dealing with questions and manifestations of technique which they don't have an answer for. I don't see how a person could ever really get anywhere in the pursuit of knowledge and/or power if they listen too much to the cautionmongers. To be fair though, one of my screw ups got me a trip to the emergency room. Something i think most practicioners get to avoid. I don't regret my approach though. and i've only 'very' slightly toned it down.


true true, but then what is sanity really? (or is that something only the insane ask? giggle)


out of curiosity... why exactly?

Kath

I want to reach this goal because i feel like it is the only way i can accomplish what i really want to do, and that is help people. I have given my life to the servitude of others. I spend it trying to make others livees happy and better and in the process it makes mine better to know that i have done this. To me the only real reason for being is to help others. I believe that with the powers that we are talking about i could do it better. AS i said, i grew up loving comics. I know i developed this because of them but it has turned into something completely different than what it started as.

hmmm, we have very different reasons then ;)

I don't think you need power to achieve your goal though... so it might be a terribly massive waste of time and effort and research ect. Just a thought.

Kath

well what is your reason?

Hmmmmmm....power.

Over the years I have seen many different expressions of power. These range from power derived from knowledge, magic and mental abilities to power derived from fear and manipulation.

Now, I'm a pretty strong guy physically. I've been training pretty much for 28 years. Does this give me power? To a limited degree.
I've got several interesting mental abilities......does that make me powerful? To a certain degree.

I have faith in myself and my abilities. I have a definite purpose to my life and the conviction and means to see it come to fruition. Does that make me powerful?

Definitely.

I have faith in my abilities and i know what i want to do with my life. I just want to become more so i can do more with my life and accomplish more. To me it is a good reason to want what i want.

"O all right,Your lucky I am church of england."


psychotic bastard religion, classic :lol: (personally I like it better.)
"Yes, yes church of England, that sounds much better."


Nice to see another Eddie Izzard fan
(watches a squirrel go up a hole and apply make up next to an army base.)
Sorry, a little off topic, couldn't help myself
Chow *drives off on scooter*

it has happened that people search and search only to achieve the "power" they're looking for and realize that their dreams of helping people have been crushed under the wheels of their quest.

be very, very careful in your journey, I would hate to see this happen to you. never lose sight of Why you're doing this. the goal is a wonderful thing but if you show up at the end of your journey without the luggage you started out with you'll just be powerful with nothing to wear.

get it?

i feel that i have some power, that my ability to read cards and to 'see' what others cannot gives me an advantage. i use this to help my friends and family when they ask, but not to harm anyone.

I think that this makes me powerful. I can't tell you how I came to have this gift other than I was given cards and began to meditate with them. A friend (a witch) taught me how to read them and the rest is history.

good luck.

yes roses, Eddie izzard is God on toast. I love him

And thanks Eridun. It is really nice of you to be concerened for me like that. I hope that i can make it to the end with my goals intact, otherwise why should i do it. And like u said u were able to start because of a friend helping u, i guess that is what i am looking for right now, a firend on here who will help me to make it done this path that i have set for myself.