:devilflip: Vampires! We are all fascinated by them (hence why we are here) so what is it that makes them so intriguing? What is it that makes them REAL or UNREAL? What terrifies us about them? What makes us adore them?
Personally I love the old Dracula style. The whole dark suducter, creature of the night, shrouded in mystery. But it isn't what I would call something that is worth being afraid of, in fact there is very little about vampires in this style that makes them in my opion 'horror creatures'. What do you guys think?
What do u think about the whole vampire status merely being a virus like in recent vampire movies like Underworld and Blade?

I've always loved vampires because of the beauty that is given away in the description of them in books. I love reading so whenever I could I used to search in books and find good things surrounding the myth of vampires. Well, that and wolves. So, I like them because of the torment, the life of a vampire, because, they are so much like us.

Yeh, while i like the fact that people are finding scientific theories to support the vampire idea, i fucking hate the fact they are the evil ones.
Mind you in the original Dracula idea there is only afew vampires, whereas the new films have lots of them so they cant all be "the one" who is shrouded in mist otherwise it would look like a pretty misty setting.

I like all the scientific theories too. But I hate the whole bitten by a vampire automatically one thing. I figure the world would be ruled by them if thats the case. I mean if they were that powerful then they wouldn't be living in a world ruled by humans but rather a world ruled by vampires where humans are like cattle. Nothing more then pets and food..... :devilnaughty:

:meow: Man...that is just about the most sobering thought I have heard around here in awhile.

I think theres a little confusion here... I don't think fetish is a synonym for fascination. There is a difference.

Peace be with you

i think vampires are facsinating for some reason i dont know why i just do

According to my dictionary :devilbook: :
FETISH: 1) An object regarded as having magical powers 2) Something to which one is devoted excessivly and irrationally. 3) Psychiatry Some object not itself erotic but which is sexually stimulating to certain individuals

FETISHISM: 1) Superstitious belief in or worship of fetishes 2) Excessive or irrational devotion to something. 3)Psychiatry Sexual stimulation produced by an object that is not itself errotic

Now I am more than willing to admit when I am wrong, but I think that I can get away with the title of this subject due to the second definition of of fetish. My aim was after to find out why people love vampires so much. I admit I love them, but I was interested in different perspectives, think of it as research that I am doing for my university course in creative writting. My ultimate aim is to return the vampire to the hellish demon of horror, rather then the errotic, self indulgent weakling that you often see in movies and modern literature. If anyone was decieved by the title then I apologise, but I did note underneath the title that I was asking what you guys thought about vampires :devilnaughty:

Fetishism is the belief that natural objects have supernatural powers, or that something created by people has power over people. The concept was coined by Charles de Brosses in 1757 and was originally used in the 18th century by French and German scholars to characterize the earliest stages in the evolution of religion. In the 19th century anthropologists and historians of religion such as E. B. Tylor and J. F. McLennan developed the theories of animism and totemism to account for fetishism. The concept of "fetishism" allowed historians of religion to shift attention from the relationship between people and God to the relationship between people and material objects; moreover, it established false models of causal explanations of natural events as a central problem for historians and social theorists.

In the 19th century Karl Marx appropriated the term to describe commodity fetishism as an important component of capitalism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetish

This pertains objects though, not creatures, like vampires...

I fucking hate that idea in movies and books. It makes the mythical vampire seem like nothing more than a virus. Like a human who was bitten by a dog that had rabies. It's always been a stupid idea to me. THat's why i like Anne Rice"s kind of vamp making. It explains things a lot betta in my opinion

mystery, power, immortal, tragedy......theyr just cool :devilflip:

But the actual affliction of vampirism, sux lol...harshly

I like the whole mystery of vampires that they have eons of knowledge that no one else (cept other vampires) has, also the fact that they have long lifes gives them time to experience everything they want.

:meow: I have said this many times...but living forever...you may think you would want to experience the ages, and learn everything there is to know. the truth is...you would just get bored and look for a way out after the first two hundred years or so...if you look through history, it is cyclical...so besides the changes in technology and culture...you would see a lot of the same. So in my opinion...immortality sucks.

I have to agree with NightStalker, like usual.

hmmmm, eventually I suppose, but for me I think it would take more than a mere couple centuries to get bored.

*evil grin*

:meow: Of course...what am I talking about...I turn 30 in a month and I am already bored.

hehe, i'm older than you and i'm NEVER bored ;)

I think boredom is a sort of perspective flaw, I haven't been bored in 10 years. Sure, i may know, just in passing, that there are 37 magazines in the waiting room of my dentist, but i never agonized or cried out to the world for stimulation, i simply amused myself, and/or pondered many things. I don't think i'd ever in a million years grow weary of just getting lost in thought whenever there's no external stimulation around.

besides, days are cyclical, seasons, etc. I'd wager you've been through some many thousands of days, many of them the same or similar to others... but are you bored to the point of jumping a building? I hope not :)

so if many thousands of days can be engaging, then why not many thousands of years? really the only thing that would make me want to quit life is becoming too feeble to go out and enjoy life.

Kath

The part about vampires that I like that is related to the "fetish" theme are the vampire women in the movies. How they talk, their voices, what they say to lure their victims in, their gentle caresses, their deadly embraces! To look into their glowing eyes, to see their fangs gently touching their crimson and wet lips. To look at their slender and graceful feminine forms, to hear their soft and sensual voices beckoning you into their embrace, saying "Come to me, come into my arms my darling. Kiss me and caress me my darling lover please... I need you, to love you, to taste your blood which is life for me. Do not resist me my chosen one for I promise you pleasures which no human female can deliver to you" with that you find yourself already in her arms and nothing in the world is more important to you than to kiss her delicious sweet lips. Even though you know that immediately following your passionate kiss she will trace your jaw line with her tongue until she reaches your jugular vein in your neck. You wait there in fearful anticipation for her fangs to sink themselves into your flesh, and when it happens the pain is overshadowed by the waves of pleasure that roll across and down your whole body. You feel her tongue on your neck, her mouth sucking the blood from your body, she is like a black widow spider devouring her mate and you willingly give your life energy over to her, hoping she will stop before she kills you. But will she? That is the danger braved to be within her power and under her control. Your life is now her possession. Are any of you ready for this? ;)

Some of my favorite movie vampiresses:



Ah Celine so lovely so beautiful so sexy so wild! (My only love)



Dracula's Brides, see the irresistible Monica Bellucci?

....

Then we have Dracula's Brides in Van Helsing: Verona, Marishka, and Aleera!

:meow: Very poetic...I like that.

I must say though your erotic pleasure...if I am reading that right seems to have attracted you to vampires in the same way the absolute power and majesty did me. The way no one could escape...once you came under their embrace...you were theirs forever. And once you were a vampire...you had all the power in the world...the world was your oyster.

I guess even though I am not exactly a believer in vampires...that is still the way I feel about them. *sigh*

if you love vampires...then you may become dangerously obsessed with them? Isnt an obsession with vampires the same as liking any other thing like christianity or the lark.....both dont have total truth (is god real? are vamps real) so I see no danger in believing in vampires, or at least adoring the whole idea.

Ahi Hay Lilitu

i love vampires becose they seem beautiful and erotic and have intense power
now who wouldnt want to have all that.

:meow: Ummm...Ahi...I kinda take that personally...I am a Christian...and I love vampires...and the two are nothing alike. I worship God...not vampires. Even when I obssess about aspects of vampires...I still worship God FIRST. And to me vampires are something of fiction that I would love to be true. God is fact...I love Him...and I know Him to be absolute truth.

In my belief...there is no fault in believing in vampires...but obssessing about them is not a good idea...I am speaking of course only from my own personal experience.

:) Obsession... See, here's what I meant, I meant that you shouldn't be obsessed with the entire vampire thing because unless you are careful, well read on the subject, and good at understanding lots of things that you have never tried before in your life(ReVamp3d), it could be dangerous. Obsession? It's a terrible thing to be caught up in, you can always go over the edge. Reading, learning and enjoying the aspects of life, are all good parts of having a hobby, anything that can leed into life threatening situations, can have their reprocussions. That's all, yep, that's what I meant generally.

(Sorry NS I guess I had to explain it anyway not necessarily to you though)

Well, of course........... isn't that why this is called a Vampire Forum? *ponders and laughs out loud*

Real?: Of course their real!! If only in my mind......... *sigh*

Why?: Their beauty, immortailty, and most of all POWER!

i am a being that desires power, above all else, i am after all, only human...... or am i only vampire..... hmm........... *laughs*

To be honest, I could care less if people were obsessed, it's not my buissness, but when people are around me and have an annoying recurrance that makes them keep lunging for my neck because they are obsessed with vampires, I write about it, I don't want to find anyone who isn't obsessed with something, that's just not natural. My point? I don't have one right now, I'm just rambling endlessly, and that there is my obsession.

To Morbid: Are not forums to talk on? I never knew that if you obsessed in a forum you were excepted as to be like everyone else. (Sorry if I'm coming off harsh)

Don't you worry morbid, one day biotechnogists will nake something like vampire (imagine, they made blue tomatoes)

So, you just wait and one day you may have those powers...

:meow:I will have to agree with Draq...I do not really care if someone is obssessed with vampires. But...I know the harm it can do...you can let it rule and destroy your life if you let your obssession go too far. But hey, I can only tell you what I know...you have to make whatever decisions you are going to make for yourself.

I have to butt in here, I daresay vampires are very much facts to the likes of Kath, Revamped or Caelen. I can't really see a big diffrence between believing in vampires to the brink of obsession, and believing in any deity to the brink of obsession. Unless you feel the word "obsession" applies to you, there should be no reason to be offended... ;)

It's all about beliefs, and personal choice. You decide for yourself which parts of the world's available inormation you wish to focus on, and put your trust in. Out of that, you design your belief, be it in gods, magic, supernatural beings or santa claus, or just about anything else. Personally I have a hard time trusting the existance of the platypus, but that's just me.

Beliefs are healthy, and necessary, but when they turn into obsessions, controlling every aspect of your life, it becomes dangerous...in my opinion.

clearwitch - ive seen a platypus, with my own eyes, dont believe me though, as with most things, its up to the person themselves to trust in what they believe, whether it be god, vampires or platypus.
nothing is impossible, but in the same token, anything could be the ramblings of a drunken writer.

hey being too obessed in vamps is not good, how would it be different from alien fanatics embracing the arrival of aliens and end up being blown up by the very aliens that they adore?(pst..watch the movies man!)

from my opinion, vampires are cool and nice, interesting and fun to be, dark and evil, lonely and cursed and blah blah blah the list goes on but shouldn't we be a little cautious? lol i might be a little mad here, someone save me!!!

our pretty admin beat me to it, but i'll say it anyway. to me, someone wholeheartedly believing in a deity is the same as someone believing in bat-turning myst-evaporating kind of vampires.

maybe it's all about the mind. not necessarily belief, but a sort of predestination of character to crave for energy. if you know what i mean.

oh, and CW? the platypus is real. like chipmunks.

cheers,
m.s.

My first word was Vampire. It's always been a part of my life.

I do love all forms of vampires, but the vampires like the ones Brian Lumley describes, were the ones that really caught my attention. I like the massive bodies and strength they have. Their ability to shapeshift and mental powers. They don't just "suck" your blood, they rip your throat out and crush your skull. They are warriors. In my eyes it the most beautifull vampire I've ever come across. That's the kind of vampire, if they were real, I'd want to be. There's just something I love about them.

:meow: Definitely...not the sissy alomost gay ones like lestat that Rice presents. Power and majesty...warrior all the way. Now you are wpeaking my language.

Lumley put a whole new twist to what a vampire is to me. When I think of a vampire, it's those that I think of. Definitely the greatest.

I love a good vampire film and have for many years thought I had a vamp fetish. I fantasize being one, romancing a beautiful young lady with a long neck, and during sex, when her veins become exposed, and her head is arched back or preferably laying over the edge of the bed, to bite deep into her, all the while she holds me as I feed. That's a strong fetish.

I'm not sure now though what it is. Is it a vamp fetish or a neck fetish? I seem to be between the two.

i guess i have a vamp fetish....... i love everything to do with vampires...... and there is the blood drinking thing.............

it can be described in many ways i guess............

and Nightstalker........... i resent your comment that Lestat is gay! he is sooooooooo not!

I love everything there is about vampires, but I myself don't need to drink blood or take energy from others to live. That by itself almost rules me out as being one. But who ever heard of a female neck vein fetish? It's like I am so close to being a vampire, but not quite there. And I was surprised to learn that some vampires, not all (these are people who believe they are real vampires), do not have a thing for necks at all. Everyone is different I suppose. I have more of a romantic vampire fetish I think. Yes, I think it can be described in many ways too.

Its not necessarily about the need to drink blood as the desire to. I do not need to drink blood, but the desire makes me FEEL as though I need to. I guess it comes from having that power to give and take life...I guess in some way we all feel the desire to have that power.

Well, Morbid, he may not be out-of-the-closet, but if there was ever a gay vampire...Lestat is one.

For me, the vampire fetish is based on the fact that an immortal vampire symbolizes everything I love and enjoy. First of all, if we are speaking of vampires as immortals, there is a great amount of wisdom that they carry. The fact that a vampire could have been alive for hundreds of years tells you that this individual is amazingly wise, and knows how to appeal.

I also enjoy the idea of 'the hunter'. I am generally not into the sensitive cry-on-my-shoulder guys, only because I am a very simple and uncomplicated person, and I think of vampires as anything but emotionally complicated. After living so long with no fear of death and all the time in the world, a vamp will have learned how to be content and know how to live life.

There is also a pain aspect of it. I enjoy certain types of pain, particularly that of being cut or bitten. Being bitten is a big turn-on for me!

There are a million other aspects of vampires that are unbelievably alluring and sexy, the same reasons for which most of us are intreagued by them.

Although I did enjoy more recent vampire movies such as Blade and Underworld, I do not think of them as being even close to an accurate depiction of vampires. Interview With The Vampire is probably the most accurate illustration of vampires that I've seen in a film.

A bit off topic, I am a big Stephen King fan, but I thought that his novel 'Salem's Lot was way off in terms of what a vampire should be portrayed as. I think most mosdern vampire movies, though entertaining, are way off from what is real.

Man you have really thought this out haven't you?

I am glad to read that some people get a thrill out of being bitten, even get turned on by being the victim of a vampires needs. I have read similar posts by others, usually written by females and just find that interesting and comforting in a good way.

As one who feels more like a vampire, I am just the opposite, and enjoy the thrill of the bite, (in fantasy).

There are web sites out there that have very strict definitions of what vampires are though. I like the ones given here better.

Happy Thanksgiving!

i believe, there is a fascination about vampires, the thought that somthing unknown mite be there waiting to embrace you, the beauty and the draw of the forbiding..........

Nikolaus

well..they hab sumthin that attracts me to them...they r different...and they hav such power...they r misunderstood by people as i am...and..i just admire them..they r beautiful in their own way..

:bunny000: Well, I've always liked them because they seem to have some dark hold on me. They've always been mysterious and seductive: sexy even. As with the current stipulation that vampirism is a virus, I think that it is an interesting approach to the entire scheme of things. I'me actually suprised how quickly that idea caught on.

Interesting thought. In a way, vampires themselves act like a virus. Getting their enegy and life from others. A virus can also help explain how vampires live so long, since viruses change the way cells operate. And since people who are bitten by a vampire can turn into a vampire themselves, it's like a virus here too. It looks like a good match!

But there is something about the vampire that is very sexual. Something about the hunt and finding a victim, the look at the victims neck before the bite, the actual bite and then the victim being drained. Each part in itself offers many varieties and brings many varieties of emotions.

Some people just like horror movies and like a good vampire bite for the scary part of it. Some people like the erotic, some like the mystery, and some like other things I haven't mentioned.

I like the erotic. In the movie "Daughters of Darkness" , there is a scene where the female vampire looks at a future victims throat a few times as she tries to convince her to stay at the hotel with her husband. It makes the upcoming bite scene more powerful and realistic, and you are left sitting at the edge of your seat waiting for that scene.

I have given a lot of thought to vampires and how they act in the movies and can tell you, from my perspective at least, the movies lack some good features. Here's what I mean...

Say you are a real vampire. Let's say you are a male vampire in search for blood.

1) The best blood is fresh and warm. SInce fresh always has the most potency and the warmth warms your cold body.

2) To your taste buds, females have sweeter blood and are easier to romance therefore your intended victims are females. It is said that females do have sweeter tasting blood because the have less iron?

3) Where's the best place to bite for the quickest feeding? One good place is the neck, preferably in a vein?

4) How does one get to be in a position where he can be up close to a female neck? Usually in romantic settings. So a vampire, using all of the resources and skills available, spins a web that attracts and mezmorizes the selected female. Flashing money, fancy cars, expressing a powerful image, strong confidence, and fawning over a potential victim help seduce her and bring her in closer. Vampires have mastered these skills.

5) Once the potential victim is seduced, the necking and kissing can begin. But to get a real good bite, a strong vein is needed and must be searched for. The best vampire may be a patient one who waits for the right moment. He lays her down, and kisses her more. He waits for sex, for the height of her orgasm, when her mind is the most destracted racing in lust, and her veins are the most under pressure to bite. He may even get her to throw her head back over the edge of the bed during sex to see more and make the bite easier.

6) The bite intensifies her orgasm and feeds the vampire.

Number 5 is where so many movies lose their punch. Usually it is after sex the vampire bites, which is better than nothing, but think if you were a real vampire, having done this a million times (wish!) wouldn't number 5 make more sense than what you see in the movies? Wouldn't it be more erotic? Even from a victims point of view, if she likes being the victim, wouldn't she want to be bit during an orgasm too, to bring her to new levels of pleasure as she is bit?

Maybe one day I'll do a movie that does a movie right!

[COLOR=red][SIZE=14][FONT=Impact][B] I want real information, i have a taste for blood that i don't understand help me.

well i think of it as they are about to die but can't so to feel alive they must drink. and who could blame then blood is yummy

The Vampire:
When it comes to the vampire I find them one of the most interesting mysterious creatures. Everyone seems to picture them as being totally evil and sadistic, but not all are really like that. They are, just as someone stated early, most like humans. Personally I find vampires to be beautiful, seductive, cunning, intellectual hunters.