My friends and I watched a special on A&E about the possible influences for Bram Storker's Dracula. How he looked through all the vampire myths and things. The human mind is a complicated thing. We usually do not make up things on our own. We make up stories to go along with an orrceance. Any story you ever read there is a story that was writtin before it with the same basic theme. And something had to inspire that person to write that event. Be it a kiss, a flower, a tree, an anmial anything.

Now consider it way back in the day, someone had to have seen something like a vampire. Someone had to see something like it. Either someone drinking another's blood or just drinking their own blood. There is at least one legend in every time in every county about some kind of vampire. Be it a god, mortal, good, or evil.

Could it be that maybe vampires are just another link in the evolutionary chain? That at one time something shifted and mutated and some creature that looks like us devolped a taste for blood. It is not a long stretch. Blood has all the nutrients you need. It's all there. Our bodies are not meant to live off of blood and that is why we as a species could not live off it. But maybe something can or does.

I'd love to hear what everyone has to hear on this subject.

Mmm I'd have to correct you on the idea that blood contains all the nutrients you need. We had a post about that a while back... I'll try and dig it up at some point.

Well, there ARE creatures in the world that survive on blood, like mosquitoes, vampire bats and various parasites... but it would have to be one HELL of an evolutionary stretch for that to happen. Also, the role of environment in evolution - what reason would life have for this particular mutation?

Can't find the thread, but although blood does contain some nutrients, as you say, a Human body would not be able to cope. We are Omnivorous for a reason.

This thread may interest you:

http://forum.vampires.com/index.php?showto...08&hl=nutrients

vampire Biology discussion.

They did see someone drinking blood...Just about every major religion has some kind of blood rituals. The Christians has their last rites (this is Jesu blood, this is Jesu flesh), the Vikings slaughtered cattle, in extreme cases even a thrall, and drank the blood, native Americans drank the blood of their kill to gain the animals strength and powers, etc. Blood has always been viewed as the essence of life, and without it, we'd die. Naturally.

When there is an advance in the evolutionary chain, it usually means the dying out of the previous link. For example, if vampires were the next step on the ladder, then humanity itself would be in a state of decline.

As things stand at the moment, humanity is still breeding like drunken rabbits on a friday night at Ritzys - which suggests two things: either vampires exist and are not superior to humans, or they do not exist at all.

That's a beautiful piece of logic right there ^

ya that's true. Unless as most vampire legends they can't produce as fast as we can. But it is true if they have existed for the thousands of years we probaly we be dead.

Yeah, I'm still vaguely in my Professor Shad guise...


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P.S. - I hope you got the "drunken rabbits on a friday night at Ritzys" reference NV ;)

Actually "No". I am not saying vampires exist, just stateing thats not how evolution works, it was once viewed that way, but scientists now see it is clear that evolution is a braching system, just because something comes along with an advantage that allows it to survive better or get to other climates doesn't mean the prevoiuse forms "WILL" die out, they may be out competed or co-habitate for a very long time, or simply move to other climates.
after all there are both Servals and Lions in the african savannah yet the larger further from the source Lion which is stronger, faster, capable of killing its more "primitive" cousins. yet they exist together in the same place.

just as Lemurs, and Marmasets still exist and Marmasets still exist along side Monkeys and apes.

basically a genetic group becomes isolated from the main group and the two drift apart until they can no longer interbreed, sometimes one group adapts better and the other dies off, sometimes not.

the ladder view point, is no longer taught except as a historical novelty along side older "theories" of evolution.

And does that take into account the fact that humanity would be the walking food stock for vampires though Rhuen?

if Vampires only fed on humans than that would make them specialty feeders. which have a habit of going extinct, even before their food does.

Cheetahs specialize on eating Impalas, and the cheetah is on the decline while the impala is not even though it is eaten by other predators too.

Pandas specialize on eating Bamboo, Pandas are on the decline yet I have bamboo groing on my property.

and the same has been seen by other animals too. so if vampires existed given their weaknesses and demand on eating on just one species, which it wont always have access too, and any possible restrictions on breeding/finding a mate. so it would seem given its problems vampires would be doomed to extinction while the more adaptive human would easily out last it.

Well, that is rather reassuring Rhuen, cheers mate ^_^

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yep, the more varied the diet the more successful the species.

Humans, rats, mice, cockroaches, foxes, crows, ravens, raccoons...

all successful, and have one thing in common, they can all eat just about anything,

its what allows us to inhabit the whole earth, we can eat, rice and fish, cows, deer, grapes, lemons, pineapples, insects, or even chemically produced garbage.

and those others can eat more than us "their just not as smart". :lol:

imagine what we could do if we could eat raw meat, wood, and what not, "if nothing else it would cut back on the gas/electric bill form not needing to cook as much"

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props to both of you for your logic. You've thought of loop holes and counter loop holes that I don't think I could of thought of. Way to go.

LoL - thanks for the praise there DFA, it's much appreciated when you have an ego such as mine.

this ego maniac will also say thanks.

smart people debateing is one of the greatest excercises imaginable.

Behold the missing link!

Of course...silly me.

On a more serious note, JR, calm down with the pictures. As much as I appreciate a good sense of humour, I also like things to stay on topic round these parts.