Another mind-storming theory...

If you look closely at the old testament...you'll se that God was not at all meek and mild, forgiving and understanding...it was fire and brimstone and eternal damnation all the way. He claimed blood sacrifices, and would strike down whoever went against him.

The serpent offered mankind knowledge, freedom, a chance to think for themselves and make their own destiny, instead of remaining the mindless slaves of God.

And yet...God is the good one? What proof do we have, apart from his own words, that he is actually good? Could it be he has lied to us all along? (given he exists, of course, but in this case I'll assume he does, to support the theory.)

Opinions, folks?

Clear, you should know that the one that is "good" is the one that winds up winning.

Let the winner write history for himself, type idea.

I decided a long time ago that if God exists he is evil and I refuse to serve an evil god.

Bahumat is right, the winners right history, so we see Yahweh as the good guy and Dagon as being the defeated evil god in the story in which Yahweh in the ark defeated Dagon in the temple of Dagon and his statue breaking as a result.

this has come up alot in history and even one man tried to edit out the whole old testament from the christian bible as he viewed the old testament god and the new testament god as different beings.

my thaught is "Yahweh-Jehovah-Allah" is just a very strong god that went all out to be worshiped 'while other gods didn't much care" or that natural disaters it had nothing to do with were attributed to it even though it didn't do them.

Anything probably could be. Historically from what there seems to be available, few (if any) known civilizations under few religions were truly peaceful. Conquest seems the name of the game for the major empires. But maybe what they practiced was just a perversion of the earlier beliefs anyway intertwined with secularism or whatever? We know a lot of the christians because they are recent and it is easy to know not being so distant. The dominant human power and all in most of the west.

Lucifer "the serpent?" gave a chance, created a whole other level of the universe. But what pain it is sometimes? What existed before this place did, where were we? Was "Eden" a place where everything was balanced and stable then this reason-creativity introduced change disurbing this?

Or was it all that in absence of this reason we were all "slaves" - but being used for what purpose?
why?

Though I will say this. In older "religions" there is Enki (god) and there is Enlil(god). One story goes that Enlil one day became disturbed with the noise humanity was making so he set his mind on destroying them with a flood. But Enki intervenes on humanity's behalf indirectly warning one man to prepare and thus propogate the human race against the decree of enlil. (rebellion of sorts) When Enlil hears of this, he is livid, but eventually Enki convinces Enlil that it is better this way - that man lives on.

Now I don't know about you all, but I tend to like Enki better in the above story.

Relevant Summary: Enki rebels against fellow god Enlil. Later Enlil seems to admit his error. Man is saved because of Enki.

I wonder how much, if any, the old testament story of the serpent and what was done has been twisted around over the ages and the cultures? There are parallels elsewhere, a bit different. Many parallels all over the place it seems. Of course, people can believe what they want, I certainly do not want to tell people what they should believe or what is wrong on such a broad level...

In my personal opinion, there is no good or evil, there is only power.

God and the devil are one in the same.

You cannot have good without evil, so there will NEVER be a victor.
If good was able to conquer evil, it would all fall out of whack, and there would be no power.

By the two energies being symbiotic, they aren't good and evil, they just are.

Yin and yang, ya hosers, yin and yang. :devilflip:

i agree with you saturn9 there is only power really but then again wat is good or evil or right or wrong there is only a difference of opinon.