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lets see... why dont vampires reflect in mirrors or appear in pictures? I was thinking on that and wasn't sure. and I think there was something else that I cant remember right now.
the pictures thing is pure fiction from authors with no basis in the myths themselves.
the mirror thing comes from Medeval folklore.
back than glass was considered a rare material "the process to make it was expensive" and the church associated it as one of the trinity items.
Gold= God the father
silver=Jesus the son
Glass= The holy ghost.
thus the church said glass could not reflect un-natural creatures like vampires.
but many authors now are going against both those concepts along with most traditional methods to combat vampires the only thing that remains consistant is piercing the heart.
the mirror thing comes from Medeval folklore.
back than glass was considered a rare material "the process to make it was expensive" and the church associated it as one of the trinity items.
Gold= God the father
silver=Jesus the son
Glass= The holy ghost.
thus the church said glass could not reflect un-natural creatures like vampires.
but many authors now are going against both those concepts along with most traditional methods to combat vampires the only thing that remains consistant is piercing the heart.
There is a lot of information on mirrors and such in this thread -
http://forum.vampires.com/index.php?showto...12273&hl=mirror .
http://forum.vampires.com/index.php?showto...12273&hl=mirror .
I don,t understand the part about piercing the heart. If a vampire has a heart then wouldnt his skin be warm to the touch why is he considered a walkind ice chest. If he has a heart then shouldnt he be warm blooded?
People back then believed that the body was controlled by the heart, not the brain.
To remove the heart was to sever the control, as they knew removing someone's heart would kill them, and they had no way of removing a brain.
To remove the heart was to sever the control, as they knew removing someone's heart would kill them, and they had no way of removing a brain.
...unless they were egyptian, in which case picking one's nose had a whole different meaning.
yes, but even the egyptions thaught we thaught with our hearts which is why it was placed in a Kanobie jar while the brain was thrown way as worthless tissue.
wo this is goung way back to grade 6, but I believe they thought the brain simply created nasal secretions (snot)
QUOTE (Rhuen @ May 31 2004, 10:14 PM)
yes, but even the egyptions thaught we thaught with our hearts which is why it was placed in a Kanobie jar while the brain was thrown way as worthless tissue.
According to this article the egyptians may not have been far off the mark.
A second brain in the stomach? It would explain the relationship between stress and digestive disorders.
I reckon the Egyprtians were just lazy when it came to brains...perhaps the reason it didn't get a canopic jar was probably because it was too difficult to preserve. Brains go off really quickly I believe: especially in hot climates. Could this account for why mummies in horror films are so zombiform? Zombiform. I've just invented a new word.
one suspects the aincents simply did not understand the brain, a grey lump with no obvious function
the heart, a living pump at the centre of the body, was much more obvious as the centre for life
hence, the heart fixation not only in vampire myth, but in aincent ritualistic sacrifice
the heart, a living pump at the centre of the body, was much more obvious as the centre for life
hence, the heart fixation not only in vampire myth, but in aincent ritualistic sacrifice
The Egyptians couldn't understand how something that didn't seem to move (ie like the heart beats, the lungs expand and contract, etc) could be important so it was discarded. In battle, warriors died almost instantly if shot in the heart, and it could take a long time to die if shot in the head so the heart seemed to be the most important to life, not the brain. Hence the heart was preserved and the brain was discarded.
You could say that killing a vampire by piercing the heart is killing the last part of them that's still human, by destroying the most important organ.
just my
You could say that killing a vampire by piercing the heart is killing the last part of them that's still human, by destroying the most important organ.
just my
The heart is the engine of life. But the brain is Solid State Technology! I like that analogy.
Just dug up an old post of mine. It was in a thread about how to kill Vampires, but all the heart stuff in this thread rang a bell.
Just dug up an old post of mine. It was in a thread about how to kill Vampires, but all the heart stuff in this thread rang a bell.
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I think that removing the heart is the accepted way to kill any evil entity, not just Vampires.
Most cultures see the heart as being the seat of understanding (the Egyptians embalmed the heart of a body with extreme reverence - the Aztecs made the removal of the heart central to human sacrifice), or even the area where the soul resides. Basically, the 'essence' of something is in the heart. We reflect this in language ('The heart of the matter', 'Don't take it to heart' The Wicked Queen wants Snow White's heart as proof of her death etc). In pretty much every culture the heart is special and has superstitions around it. It is life itself. If you're dealing with something that keeps coming back, take the heart, the very essence of the being - it would be a failsafe method of destroying something.
It was sometimes alleged (in the old days) that proof of a witch was that if sentenced to death by the stake, her heart would not burn.
Most cultures see the heart as being the seat of understanding (the Egyptians embalmed the heart of a body with extreme reverence - the Aztecs made the removal of the heart central to human sacrifice), or even the area where the soul resides. Basically, the 'essence' of something is in the heart. We reflect this in language ('The heart of the matter', 'Don't take it to heart' The Wicked Queen wants Snow White's heart as proof of her death etc). In pretty much every culture the heart is special and has superstitions around it. It is life itself. If you're dealing with something that keeps coming back, take the heart, the very essence of the being - it would be a failsafe method of destroying something.
It was sometimes alleged (in the old days) that proof of a witch was that if sentenced to death by the stake, her heart would not burn.
I thinkl alot of information we get from movies and books aren't the truth about vampires. I would really like to know the truth.
Would you be able to handle the idea that there is NO truth with regard to vampires?
From what I've understood - there doesn't seem to be any fixed rule about any supernatural/mythical/dubious creatures - wherever you look somebody is claiming fact against fiction - and who knows which is right? You can study all you want, dig up whatever information you like - but as yet there doesn't seem to be a definate explaination for the majority of these kinds of things. Personal belief is where its at.
Read around and accept the ideas that you can relate to the most.
[edit]By "dubious" I meant creatures or atributes that a lot of people wouldn't believe in but nevertheless may or may have accepted. Bit hazy I know, but it's a difficult topic to approach without saying something incredibly narrow minded[/edit]
Read around and accept the ideas that you can relate to the most.
[edit]By "dubious" I meant creatures or atributes that a lot of people wouldn't believe in but nevertheless may or may have accepted. Bit hazy I know, but it's a difficult topic to approach without saying something incredibly narrow minded[/edit]
QUOTE (tantedblood @ Jun 5 2004, 07:48 PM)
I would really like to know the truth.
YOU WANT THE TRUTH?! YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! Sorry, seemed necessary at the time...
Sorry, I haven't been following much but what the hell does nose picking etc have to do with vampirism, isn't this off topic or haven't I read enough?
throne, please lay off the off topic remarks. There's a whole forum for that.
IIRC, the legend about the stakes comes from folklore where vampires were supposedly subdued by nailing them with a stake through their heart, to pin them down and prevent them from rising from their graves.
IIRC, the legend about the stakes comes from folklore where vampires were supposedly subdued by nailing them with a stake through their heart, to pin them down and prevent them from rising from their graves.
They used to do that with witches as well, except with nails through the joints. A load of skeletons with nailed down joints was uncovered in St Osyth, recently.
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