• for another vampire to somehow speed-up a human friend's awakening?
• to understand the whole of vampires, you know, finding out as much info as you can?
• that you could tell me why I have a lot of the symptoms and is not technically a vampire?

1. No

2. yes, although your mental image of "vampires" becomes less romantic but more interesting in my opinion when you find out the history of the myths and the sources, heres a starting point "Uttuku" the original "vampire" type creature in written history/mythology.

3. yes, vampires in the truest sense are re-animated corpses/ghosts. so just being simular doesn't make you one. like just because a sea lion barks doesn't make it a dog.

sank you! (haha) I'll google Uttuku

your welcome, another good starting point is "Ekimmu" its a related being to Uttuku.

also this thread talks about the Uttuku phenomenon

http://forum.vampires.com/index.php?showtopic=15878

1. No, VAMPIRES DON'T EXIST.

2. Not likely. There are far too many variations on the vampire mythos, writers are always changing what they can and cannot do. Some say sunlight kills, others don't etc etc etc.

3. Because you are lying when you say you have 'symptoms'.

play nice Shadout. I have already geared this person towards the mythos, your hatred is not necissary.

What hatred? I'm merely answering the questions asked from my point of view, surely that's the idea behind a thread like this?

It was unecessary to call this poster a liar.

Such things may seem unlikely to you, but it may seem very real to someone else. Everything is perception...

This poster is not claiming to be a Vampire, so pipe down please.

thats what I meant "what Nightvision said". alot of people really don't like being called liars, and the over all tone was un-necisary given what has been said by the poster.

they only said "symptoms" which the gods know what this person was refering to. as many people have different ideas as to what such symptoms would be. for all any one knows this person could simply have meant something minor like being photosensitive "eyes or skin" or something along those lines.

vampire do not exist?

vampire are ex corpses?

interesting

I shall find somewhere here devoted to debate of the above, for I have views.

humans can develop many vampire characteristics, but it does not mean they are vampire. It usually means they are ill in some way shape or form

Rather good point that Shearer (it's always nice to see an ex-England striker posting in here by the way) if I started looking incredibly pale, and being phsically harmed by the sun (more than my usual sunburn) then the doctors office would probably be my first port of call.

As regards the rest, it would be useful to know what these symptoms are that morbid_pale is experiencing. Whatever they are, be they real, imagined, or invented - I have a sneaking suspicion that there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for them which does not involve vampirism.

For example, sunlight tends to have a very painful effect on me, and I sleep most of the day...

...After a Friday or a Saturday night out.

I would have to say, that happens to me too, except that generally happens when I wake up at any point in the day.




I agree, I would like to hear your "symptoms"

I too am interested in these "symptoms" as some one may know what they really are.

-for another vampire to somehow speed-up a human friend's awakening?

+++Yeh... I think it's possible.

-to understand the whole of vampires, you know, finding out as much info as you can?

+++I don't think you can truly understand the whole of vampires because its so complex and there are so many theories and understandings on the subject.

-that you could tell me why I have a lot of the symptoms and is not technically a vampire?

+++Some 'symptoms' might just be normal human characteristics that can be linked to vampire through some random way. But then again, maybe not.

Assuming everyone spoken above existed and was what they said they were, it makes more sense to ask the others who are to be the ones doing the deed this and let them explain. If they can't, well ...



It is always possible to try.



The age old question supposedly from the garden of Eden:

"Who told you that you were ... " [naked/not a vampire] ?

Chances are a lot of your questions depend on who you are dependent on and who or what you recognize as being authoritative. Did you notice that? So there are many answers.

Mmm, if there are so many answers, could you let us in on some, or just me, I for one am confused as to why any vampire would be different, if you're dependent on one, you have a problem because they could kill you at any time. Just like humans, yeah, humans and vampires probably have sympathetic things for people but then again, we don't have the power to quickly speed up something so how could anyone else?

I guess you are writing to me Draquilas, if not, I guess accept my appologies and read no further.

But, yes, of course I will try. It all depends on who s/he trusts. Who s/he recognizes, what experiences or knowledge s/he accepts, etc. The answers depend on that. Ranging from:

Your source lies.
Your source is ignorant/incomplete/ not authoritative
Your source is malicious.
Your interpretation is incorrect, you misunderstood.
Your source is non-existent.
Your reasoning is flawed.
Your faith is misplaced.
Your source is correct.
[etc]

This person talks of symptoms, they say they are not a vampire. How did the come to declare that they have symptoms and that they are not a vampire? Probably in so many cases, the way we come across our knowledge and assumptions is probably not to be trusted. Perhaps destroy the assumptions and proceed from the root, the ground up without building upon them.

The other questions are about limitations and choices, nothing more that I really can see. These probably kind of relate to the above too.

Good answer, and yes I was referring to you. Thank you for that.

Unfortunatly we are all vampires of a sense, we feast apon the life blood of this planet, water. So I guess its all about perspective

"there are only personal apocolypses, only personal saviours" ~Max Payne.

:meow: Strange, I have never had someone who agreed with me that we are all vampires in a sense. But only in a sense...we are only vamps in spirit...not in actuality.

Mmhm, I agree on that matter. If we all think about the things that make us carnivores then we most definetly do seem to be vampires don't we. So that's why can't flame each other for claiming to be vampires. We can only question into oblivion.

Ah...come now...questioning is whaty makes it so fun.

Alright... I agree.

:meow: Now was that so hard?

Not really! Alright, I was thinking about the limitations thing.

As humans we attempt to make prods at becoming better at certain things. Like seeing, we make glasses, the usual problems we solve, because they are limitations to what we can do. When I refer to the speed that they can change things, then humans can only make a car go faster, or a machine, or we can make something physically go faster, but we can make something grow faster, we have done so with plants, it's practically like fertilizer for the person then if they speed up an awakening. Have vampires found a fertilizer for awakening people into the vampire sense? I don't think so, but if they did, we would probably be in some trouble.