Hey vamps

I have a question for you all, which i want you to ponder and let me know some answers.

If you could become a real vampire, would you?

A vampire with all the benefits, eternal life, powers beyond your wildest dreams but your life as you know it would be over. You need to feed to sustain yourself, people you used to know will be nothing but cattle to you, sunlight is a problem and you will essentially be killing and murdering people every day.

No contact with your family, no contact with your friends but a new family would await you, a new family that you can be born again into.

So folks, if there were a way, to start again, as vampire, but with no way to go back, what would you do?

No.

Not a chance, I like my mortality.

Yes

The freedom and the immortality do it for me. And you don't need to risk killing people every day, there are alternative options (like donors from blood banks, etc). I'm very interested to try living in a new world.

And it's always good to try new things... :lol:

No blood bank on earth can legally give blood to people off the street, especially if it's for drinking.

Sorry, try again.

who said anything about legally ? If you have the proper connections inside the bank you can get blood without causing a big fuss about it. In any case, I'd still be safer than killing people.

This route has been tried before; I'll save you the time and condense it down to the base terms.

Nobody has ever gotten blood from a blood bank and gotten away with it. Law enforcement would be all over it; the person who allowed the blood to be withdrawn would be brought up on charges, and the cops would be patting each other on the back for the latest media hyped "vampire" case before you could choke down the first teaspoon. Nobody's ever gotten away with it, and nobody's ever tried.

Unless, that is, you would like to admit to a crime that you've not been prosecuted for on a message board that records your personally identifiable information.

I'd not press the blood bank issue.

I have heard stories about it being done, though I can't provide an article about it. Yet I still think killing would be too big of a risk. There are alternative ways. A donor doesn't have to come from a blood bank, it can be someone private who keeps everything that goes on between you confidential. Or even you can get animal blood from butcher shops.

But lol I don't want to sound like I'm planning on being a vampire, this all just hypothetical.

edit : Although, when I said yes I was looking more at the big picture of things.

To be a vampire wouldn't be a nice little fairytale. It wouldn't be like in the movies or in the books, infact I don't know what a vampire would be at all (though still considering the immortal side to it). To be a vampire would be a constant struggle, harder than a human life, and quite horrible and unbearable at times. But atleast you get the chance to fight on. Who knows what the world will be like in 100 years ? 200 ? 300 ? A millenium ? A million years ? You probably wouldn't survive that long even if you were immortal, but you'd have a technical chance. Society's ever-changing views will evolve over time, perhaps even learn to accept vampires. Perhaps even lead to a better life for you.

While to live and die as a human, being completely the same your entire life, not knowing anything but what society provides you with seems almost like a waste. Maybe you'll do something important in your short, short life, maybe something that people will remember for a while. But as the years go by you'd be forgoten, like you were never even there.

As a vampire you'd get to fight on. A hard and painful fight, no doubt, but you'd have the potential of a greater existance. And that's worth it, IMO.

Maybe..Well currently I love my family and friends and all..but if, by becoming a vampire, I could "forget" about this family and dont care at all...well I don't see why not...I'd like to try it too..but..well..hmm..if it ever should happen that it would come to this, I really don't know what to do...probably say no..

eternal life has been questionalble. And these other...assets you list are....predicatable.
However, If I were to accept these assets....it would not be for the power....perhaps maybee the ability to gain and posses so much knowledge due to the time given. In a sence, that is power.
If sunlight were a problem, it could be one most evaded. There are advantages to that I would suppose.
The reason I may accept is for the ability to make changes to what I see wrong.
To help the veiws of many. To give people the ability to not lose the bigger picture in life.
Friends??? What do you call a friend...that depends. I wouldnt call a dozen of the people I consort with as true "friends".
And the veiw people have on family is all wrong. People see it as blood relation. It SHOULD BE much more than that.
I beleive any group of people can be family, if they do care for one another, and put others in the group before themselves. That is a family.
Thus the "vampire's Life" could very well be the picture perfect life.
However as to killing....
watch animals. They learn. They find new ways to support their own survival.


I hate many people as it is. But to treat them like cattle, would make me and all others like me(if it were the case) just ANOTHER human race.

No...I would change it as I see fit. I may be wrong. But that is what I would do. I would search for a way to become immune to these....disadvantages.


my theory is that exposure leads to immunity. I could go on, but right now I have other things to attend to. But thats just about it in a nutshell. And my answer to the main idea....


yes I would, but not for me.
Now I have a question for you... an old old topic of mine...



What is a Vampire to you?
Or shall I say....what do you beleive a Vampire is...and do you beleive that the word "Vampire" is a correct word to use?

And yes, as one said....Immortality isn't Invulnerability. You can still die, it is only that you do not age.



And as also said. All great things are forgotten. Sometimes completely, and if they are not forgotten, then they are turned into legends, myths, fairy tales.

Look at Rome. Look at the United States. To be honest I beleive that the United States as it is, is destroying itself constantly in politics. And I do not beleive that the United States will last anywhere near as long as Rome.


It will all be forgotten with time.



I appologize im off topic.

No, sounds boreing.

immortality of the vampire. nothing will truelly last forever, change is inevitable and not being able to change is a weakness, thus a vampire would be weak in the long run. especially when the climate changes or when the sun goes ultra-violet "about a billion years before it goes red giant it will change phase to ultra-violet in which case the moon's reflection would be at least as strong as the current sun 'that is unless by that time the moon hasn't moved away and the earth begun to spin more widely and life as it current exists can not remain.

:help: i havebeen bitten by a vvvampire and in great need of help

umm...what?

Seems that a couple people mistook this section for "Real Vampires", which is the section where you can claim to be a vampire.

I would, if it were like Anne Rice, or maybe like Lord Ruthven or Carmilla maybe. You wouldn't have to kill people yourself, maybe just feed off them, draining them little by little, till they eventually weakened, and nowadays with blood transfusions you can just drink and drink.

Or am I being stupid?!

I am a were, and I was born a were so I don't really know any different - but I must add to this discussion the torment that is sometimes aroused by being "gifted".

I do not claim to know a great deal about Vampires, and this is partly why I am here, but if the suffering of a vampire is similar to the suffering of a were, then I can only condemn it.

You may think you desire it now, but when the reality of it comes apon you, it is something you will regret as far as your "immortality" wil take you.

On one condition - that I could give the gift to whomever I wanted. To allow me to use the power of immortal blood to heal and change that which mankind in it's infancy hasn't figured out yet. Imagine how many advances could take place with that much time to study and learn! Disease would no longer be an issue for you and so you could research where a human could not, for fear of contracting what you're studying.

So people become cattle? They are now, just we've killed all the beasts that would stalk us.

To leave your friends, family and life behind? We're all going to one day anyway.

Change is a weakness if you reject it. It is a stregnth if you use it.

To be immortal and see the line of your family live for generations, to watch them prosper or fall from a distance - it would be worth it.

I am a was. :lol:

I can back this up, too, you know....


Can you back up your were claim, Lycaon?

Lazurus already closed Lycaon's "I am a were-wolf" thread in other-kin "shortly before someone else came in claiming to be a zombie" :rolleyes:

1. a werewolf in the actual sense of the myth is a normal human that uses magic to intentionally take on the form of a wolf.

2. are you Lycaon claiming to be this? or that made up hollywood werewolf "Wolf Man" type of creature.
or are you just one of those aura people "due to the impossibility of humans to actually change shape a growing sub-culture of "weres" has appeared claiming to be able to change there aura, or energy, to resemble the aura of a wolf. or say they are werewolf's because they are wolves in there dreams.

the aura/dream choice does not a werewolf make any more than me occasionally dreaming to be different animals to actually be those animals.

now back on topic.

i wouldn't become a real vampire. There are better creatures to choose from. i wouldn't mind the immortality but the constant thirst for blood would be annoying. there are other things i would rather be.

Blood taste good though, excuse my spelling disability

Yes. I would do it. I have grand plans for the eventual disintegration of the Vatican, and plans to see everything in the vaults restored to it's rightful owners, or barring that, museums. These plans take time, of course.

Immortality, such as it were, does not scare me in the slightest. Since I've never had a problem walking away from people, least not in the last fifteen years, that doesn't scare me either. I'm rather fond of burning bridges.

The thirst for blood? It's just a different craving, as far as I'm concerned. There seems to be no end of folks who want to be donors these days, so...no big deal there.

1 - Is mythologically correct, whereas you will find that the "first case of a werewolf" was that of Lycaon, part of a greek myth - and he was turned into a man-wolf by the God Jupiter. Although obviously it is up for discussion if it is true or not.

2 - I think it to be a physical impossibility that a normal man may change into a wolf without some sort of divine intervention to say the least - therefore no, I most certainly do not claim to be "the wolf-man".

Personally, and you may scoff, I believe that I am a were. This is because - like many others - I sometimes feel basic, creaturelike instincts and cravings, largely related to the position of the moon. Although I will readily admit that scientifically, it could just be a coincidence, but in my heart I believe it to be true.

Thats all I care to say in this thread - pm me if you want to discuss it further.

Sorry for being off topic also.

First off, Lycaon, Jupiter was the Roman god, not the Greek.
Secondly, the Greek word for werewolf is Lukanthropos.

Now, the Italians have no werewolf myth per se, they have folklore, but its essentially a copy of the Greek myth.
The Romans did however, adapt the word (like they did with most Greek words), into "Lycanthrope".


What you say, I believe is true.
Others may disagree with me, but if you have a spiritual connection with the being of a wolf, I think thats entirely possible.
It's that "beast within", or that "call of the wild".
I know exactly what you're talking about.
You might be elaborating on this a lil too much though. The term "werewolf" does describe an actual physical change. You can't do that.
And its been proven that most creatures on this planet have some sort of behavior affect from the wax and wane of the moon.

so Lycaon would your saying is that the wolf is your spirit beast.

which is different than being a werewolf in any sense, but the spirit beast concept is not too well known out side of Native American, Eastern, and tribal African and South American folklore.

also you may just be more aware of your natural animal side which can be affected by moon phases "a psychological phenomonon" in which people tend to be more aggessive during full moons than other times of the month.

Yeah, Rhuen brings up a point...
It seems to me when the moon is full, people start driving horribly.

It'd be interesting to see whether auto accidents increased at certain times of the month or not.

Absolutely the price of immortality is a small price to pay if you think about it.

Which is why I prepare to use the term "were", if you understand my meaning.

To be honest, a lot of my research into myself, and what I could be is based on what I have found on the internet - hence minor discrepancies - but I join these forums to learn new things as well.

If you would like to chat further, please pm me - rather than clog this thread further - as there are obviously a few things we should discuss if you are indeed knowledgeable about these things.

you can't pm or be pmed until you have 100 posts.

also just so you know: were comes from wer which translates as "man" or "human" so techniquely calling yur self "were" is the same as calling your self Human in another language.

Yeah, what Rhuen said.

But I'm sure you could open up your own thread under "Otherkin".

Lycaon did, he "don't know the gender of this person so I use this as means of reference" he did but he didn't word himself too well "sounded like he was claiming to be a full fledged werewolf so Lazarus snaged his thread and closed it."

I would recommend if you still want to do that either post in one of the two appropriate werewolf threas 'Lycanthropes" or "werewolfs a debate" I don't think there still on the first page though so you may need to change the option time box at the bottom right from "last 30 days" to alonger period of time to find them in one of the other three of the four pages.
or make it something like "the wolf within" or something like that.

If I could do that for a day or a week, like a tester and see which i prefered i would. But otherwise NO i love my life, and my friends and family. I am happy being me no matter what that means.

i'd love to be a vampire... i somtimes dream about being one... i understand its hard going through all that and stuff.... but i think its worth it :)

If I could I would. Thats my wish to become a vampire. There all I read about and dream about. I wouldn't care about leaving everybody I would just go. I would miss them but I think its worth it. If I was a vampire I would come back and visit them I just wouldn't tell them.

i honestly don't know... it's a hard decision to make, and i'm not in the position of making it anytime soon. it sounds like an appealing life, but why live longer than you have to?

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yes i would become a REAL vampire. Some people already call me a vampire so why would it matter, right? Eternal life would be neat so i can explore the entire world. Feeding wouldnt be a problem. Sunlight is already a problem for me anyway, it burns my skin so i dont like to be in it alote. I dont really care much for my family, and besides, you'd make new friends and if your non vampiric friends cant handle what you are then you dont need them anyway.

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I would ABSOLUTELY become a real vampire if I had the chance! The reason is my family are all fuc>>>king as>>>>sholes who I wouldn't care if they died or not. My friends are cool but they are still expendable to me. Now as for having to kill people to feed on their blood not a problem one bit. In fact I am going to enter the military in two years once I turn 18 just so that I might get a chance to kill people wih a gun. Yes that's rigt I am only 16 and this insane. So to get to go out every night and pick up a hot girl and drain her dry as if she were noting more then a cow I would surely get off on that. For my next point think of all the powers you could have. If you aren't as knowledgeable as I am I will list them. Immortality, Superhuman Strength, Superhuman Speed, Superhuman Regeneration, Superhuman Wall Climbing, Supehuman Senses, Shape Shifting into a wolf or bat or even mist, Telekinesis, Telepathy, Mind Control of humans and animals, Necromancy, and best of all Flying. However don't forget about the weaknesses which include Sunlight, Fire, Wooden Stake Through the Heart, Decapitation, and in some tellings Ultra Violet Rays, Silver, Garlic, and the ever annoying Christian Religion Items such as the Cross, Holy Water, the Bible etc. You would also have to consider the limitations such as having to sleep in a Coffin, not being able to cast a reflection, needing to be invited into a human's home before entering, not being able to cross running water, not being able to cross grain before counting every little piece, and not being able to cross knotted string until you have untied all of the knotts. Though there are many weaknesses and limitations the extraorinary powers would make me want to become a vampire in what would be my last heartbeat EVER!

Ummm... hell yeh.

I'd take vampirism in less than a heartbeat, benefits and downfalls included.

But I think to be a real vampire you'd have to be the kind of person who would have no remourse for killing and a love for darkness in general as a way of life.

I'd do it! I'd love it, and I would kill without remource, family and friends included. It's a seductive lifestyle that some could only dream of. A lifestyle I'd accept and embrace, fully and proudly.

I say sure, I've got nothing else planned for the next few hundred years...why not? If it turned out that I regretted my decision, I'd just take my sunrise coffee by the pool...problem solved.

Anyone who bothers to read any of my posts will soon realize I'm answering truthfully. I wouldn't hesitate for a minute. I am cold-hearted already so nothing binding is holding me here. I strive for knowledge and excitement. Who knows, maybe someday I will find real love. I don't think it will happen in my lifetime though. I do hope however that you do get the ability of "turning".

Freedom? I'll let you in on something, mortal or immortal you'll never be fucking free.

yes... the urge for immortality sounds quite enjoyable!

This depends, are we saying being immortal with all the pains you experienced in mortal life or immortal with nothing at all remaining of mortality? If the former, no......I wouldn't want an existance filled with pain. If the later maybe, but why trade a life that can improve (even for a short time) for one where you would have to hide and change who you are every 50 or so years? (try explaining immortality to friends who are dying) Also, immortality tends to be a lonely existance.............even the vamps of myth were (most of the time) solitary beings.

These are my views on it so if you ask me, I'd prefer being just another mortal vamp than an immortal one, afterall it's easier explaining being a vamp than being immortal.

1st of I would rather be a werewolf 2cnd no. I dont wish to see the death of my children brothers, sisters ect ect ect. Get kinda boring and leave my all time question what is after death

Without running the risk of sounding like a cliché i think yes i most probably would become one given the chance. Although i do think that one of the issues brought up in Interview with the Vampire would probably be a big problem, and that is not having the "stamina for immortality" as Armand put it, and i think that many people wouldn't (that probably includes myself). Also if we are talking about vampires in the fictional sense, then they would be endowed with powers which gave them an advantage against mortals, so they would probably be able to do things like break into and steal from a blood bank.

Yes i would give up this shit hole of a life in a secound, i would rather be a vampire. even if it means beeing alone.

i love life too much to be turned.

The way you say and declare it, no way if I had a choice. But the way you say it, it hints that the person has essentially lost the way they used to think and be. You bascially say that "the people you used to know become cattle to you" -- I would take this to mean that mentally there is no way to override that. And you also say (paraphrased) "no contact with your family" -- why? I can see how it is likely to be that way, but why would it have to be, what makes it so? And, I would think this "new family" would be a little weary of someone who would abandon their family altogether for a new one for trivial reasons - what prevents you from doing the same again to them? Says little of loyalty it would seem.