Throughout history we have cases of people who...quite like killing other people. So much so they have developed it into a hobby. In the old days, If you were an aristocrat, this made it even easier.Nowadays we like to think of ourselves as a civilised society. We don't take our kids to public hangings anymore, and not that many of us have even seen a corpse...we like to hush up death, and pretend it won't come to us. Yet still we like a little foxtrot with the grim reaper - a particularly gruesome murder headline does wonders for newspaper sales. I also think part of the reason serial killers hold the public imagination so greatly because there is a strange element of creativity to what they have done. We are sickened, appalled, fearful...but we remember their names...oh yes. At the end of the day we cannot forget that life is cheap.
Criminologists like to refer to the 'Bloodlust' of such a killer. Many of them get no satisfaction until they have taken a trophy from the victim, or seen themselves on the news, they kill for a purpose. Still others kill almost exclusively for blood. Often there is a spiritual element to this. let's have a look:
Gilles De Rais
A bit of a sad story this, as De Rais could have been a war hero if he hadn't had a such a disturbing penchant for little boys. He was born in 15th century France, and was a great soldier of his time, he even fought alongside Joan of Arc. As befitting his status, he also had a castle, and it was here, one day in 1440 that the Duke Of Brittany uncovered 50 children's corpses. In actuality he may have murdered 100 to 800 kids. He confessed to have a lust for blood, and after raping them would often stab them in the Jugular vein, and have a drink. Primarily, he killed for sexual satisfaction, but some theorists argue he had a kind of medieval 'shell-shock' - having seen so much violence and bloodshed in battle, he needed to keep it in his life. Of course there were rumours he dabbled in black magic as well, but at the stake (yes, they burned him) he seemed very apologetic to God and the parents of the children he had killed.
Peter Kurten
Was probably the inspiration behind this Urban legend: A girl is waiting at a station , and is approached by a stranger: the place she is at is currently in a state of high alert as a serial killer is going around and preying on women, so she is naturally quite anxious. The stranger gets abusive when she won't go home with him. things are looking bad, and she's sure she's about to become the next victim of 'The Monster'. Luckily, a well-dressed, kindly looking man comes running to her rescue and sees the thug off. Seeing that she is shaken up he invites her to his flat for a glass of milk (wwhy milk? I'd want a Brandy. Anyway...), she accepts his offer, and is found in the flat several days later hacked into little pieces, and the good samaritan himself has disappeared.
Peter Kurten made no secret he killed exclusively for blood. They called him the 'Vampire Of Dusseldorf'. In the late twenties, Germany was very scared of him, indeed. As a child, he allegedly 'helped' some other kids to drown, but evidence is sketchy. He started off with animals, once lopping off the head of a Swan and directing the gush of blood into his mouth. He then graduated to women, sneaking into a girls bedroom and killing her, and later abducting women from fairs. He didn't have a preferred mode of killing, but the thought of spilling blood really turned him on. Funnily enough his wife never realised any of this: he would even escort her around to 'protect her' from the killer. In all respects he appeared to be a model husband.He was Guillotined in 1931, and in true form, declared he hoped the last sound he heard would be his blood gushing into the basket. What a Pro.
I'll stop here for now. Part two tomorrow.
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John George Haigh
'The Vampire Of London', but better known as 'the acid bath murderer'. This case is a good reason not to indoctrinate your children with your beliefs: Haigh's parents were a kind of amalgamation of Fundamentalist Christianity with new-age tendencies, and his mum in particular put a lot of significance in dreams.
I'm pretty sure Haigh didn't tell her about the one he had where he was walking along a path of Crucifixes that turned into trees dripping blood, though.
This dream came to him a lot, and he would 'collect' the blood in a cup and drink it. Later on, in the late forties drinking blood became a reality. He was a very considerate killer: he didn't like his victims to die slowly (reminded him of Jesus too
much), so he bashed them over the head, and then slit their throats. He found it difficult getting the blood into a (pardon the pun) vessel as per his fantasy, so just sucked it from the wound site, it gave him "great satisfaction". This preference for
neatness was the reason why he decided to dispose of the bodies in acid. We tried to dissolve some cloth in acid as a science experiment at school once, and it took bloody ages so he must have been a very patient man. Obviously not patient enough though, because he blocked up the drains with the leftover sludge, was busted, and hanged.
I should add here that there is some debate as to whether Haigh really did have a blood-drinking compulsion or not: a lot of doctors thought he was putting it on.
Fritz Haarman
Also a soldier, also German. And gay. He made nice sausages apparently. I bet a Haarman sausage would be worth millions now...
Haarman and his boyfriend ran a shop together that sold speciality food. The speciality was that a lot of the time the meat was human. This was because Haarman, and probably his boyfriend as well, liked to seduce young men victims, and Haarman would kill them by biting them viciously on the neck. There were rumours about them, but Haarmann was such a charmer the police thought they could trust him: he would act as an informer for them occasionally. One day the police came into his shop and failed to notice the decapitated head behind the oven. Shoddy work, is all I can say.
They killed up to fifty young men together, Grans, the boyfriend, was after the clothes, Haarman was after the blood. They were caught when a would-be victim got away from them. He hard a hard time convincing the police to listen, Haarman was their buddy after all - and his sausages were superb - probably better than donuts, even - but the pair were arrested. Grans got prison, and Haarman got Death. His brain was extracted and given to a University. I suppose he was more a cannibal than anything else, but he did prefer neck biting so I think he deserves a place here.
'The Vampire Of London', but better known as 'the acid bath murderer'. This case is a good reason not to indoctrinate your children with your beliefs: Haigh's parents were a kind of amalgamation of Fundamentalist Christianity with new-age tendencies, and his mum in particular put a lot of significance in dreams.
I'm pretty sure Haigh didn't tell her about the one he had where he was walking along a path of Crucifixes that turned into trees dripping blood, though.
This dream came to him a lot, and he would 'collect' the blood in a cup and drink it. Later on, in the late forties drinking blood became a reality. He was a very considerate killer: he didn't like his victims to die slowly (reminded him of Jesus too
much), so he bashed them over the head, and then slit their throats. He found it difficult getting the blood into a (pardon the pun) vessel as per his fantasy, so just sucked it from the wound site, it gave him "great satisfaction". This preference for
neatness was the reason why he decided to dispose of the bodies in acid. We tried to dissolve some cloth in acid as a science experiment at school once, and it took bloody ages so he must have been a very patient man. Obviously not patient enough though, because he blocked up the drains with the leftover sludge, was busted, and hanged.
I should add here that there is some debate as to whether Haigh really did have a blood-drinking compulsion or not: a lot of doctors thought he was putting it on.
Fritz Haarman
Also a soldier, also German. And gay. He made nice sausages apparently. I bet a Haarman sausage would be worth millions now...
Haarman and his boyfriend ran a shop together that sold speciality food. The speciality was that a lot of the time the meat was human. This was because Haarman, and probably his boyfriend as well, liked to seduce young men victims, and Haarman would kill them by biting them viciously on the neck. There were rumours about them, but Haarmann was such a charmer the police thought they could trust him: he would act as an informer for them occasionally. One day the police came into his shop and failed to notice the decapitated head behind the oven. Shoddy work, is all I can say.
They killed up to fifty young men together, Grans, the boyfriend, was after the clothes, Haarman was after the blood. They were caught when a would-be victim got away from them. He hard a hard time convincing the police to listen, Haarman was their buddy after all - and his sausages were superb - probably better than donuts, even - but the pair were arrested. Grans got prison, and Haarman got Death. His brain was extracted and given to a University. I suppose he was more a cannibal than anything else, but he did prefer neck biting so I think he deserves a place here.
Richard Trenton Chase
aka "The vampire Of Sacramento" and one very sick puppy - an apt phrase as you'll see.
He started off like Renfield: on animals. He did horrible things to animals and I'm not going to print them here. He also suffered some pretty intense medical delusions: that people (later aliens) were stealing his body parts,his bones were growing upside-down. This probably wasn't helped by his drug habit. The worst thing, I think, was the animals. I don't seem to care very much about bad things happening to people, but the animals thing gets me. He used to go out and do horrible things to pets, and boast about it to the owners. On one occasion his own mother caught him attempting to eat the family cat.
He was hospitalised (for injecting rabbit's blood) and got caught with a row of dead birds on the window sill, and blood around his mouth ( picture it: "I didn't do it! It wasn't me! It was 'THEM!'"). He was released into the dubious care of his mother, who didn't check he stayed on his medication. So Chase went on a shooting spree, wasn't caught, and upgraded to breaking and entering. Then the killings for which he is remembered began.
His first victim caught him in her house, so he shot her, and in true Jack-The-Ripper Style disembowelled her. He then collected her blood in a yoghurt pot and drank it. one of the details in his Modus Operandi was that next to his victims there would often be evidence of some kind of bloodstained drinking vessel, or blood collection bucket.His victims were mainly women from thereon in: usually in their own homes.It was only when he stole a victim's car and it was found abandoned that the police got their first real whiff of him. They also tracked him down via his gun registration.
When Chase was safely in custody, the police had the unenviable task of going through his flat. You think the Texas Chainsaw Massacre takes place in an odd house? - try this one. It stank of rotten flesh and everything was bloodstained. Most of his crockery bore evidence of blood-based meals, and the blender was clogged up with human tissue. He had some 'snacks' in the fridge (use your imagination) and bits of
brain in containers. He also had a nice collection of pet collars.He had thoughtfully marked out the date of each murder on a calendar.I'm sure the police were really grateful for that.
By this time, Chase had probably decided the police were in league with the Nazi's and their UFO controllers, yet he was not declared insane!!! My god, what exactly do you have to DO to be declared legally insane? Is thinking your blood is turning to powder not an indication of something being very wrong?
In 1979 Richard Trenton Chase was convicted of 6 murders and sentenced to the gas chamber. In 1980, a prison guard checking on him noticed he was rather quiet that day. Chase was dead - he'd been saving up his medication and overdosed. May legions of hell-hounds and Satanic kittens drag him into the underworld.
aka "The vampire Of Sacramento" and one very sick puppy - an apt phrase as you'll see.
He started off like Renfield: on animals. He did horrible things to animals and I'm not going to print them here. He also suffered some pretty intense medical delusions: that people (later aliens) were stealing his body parts,his bones were growing upside-down. This probably wasn't helped by his drug habit. The worst thing, I think, was the animals. I don't seem to care very much about bad things happening to people, but the animals thing gets me. He used to go out and do horrible things to pets, and boast about it to the owners. On one occasion his own mother caught him attempting to eat the family cat.
He was hospitalised (for injecting rabbit's blood) and got caught with a row of dead birds on the window sill, and blood around his mouth ( picture it: "I didn't do it! It wasn't me! It was 'THEM!'"). He was released into the dubious care of his mother, who didn't check he stayed on his medication. So Chase went on a shooting spree, wasn't caught, and upgraded to breaking and entering. Then the killings for which he is remembered began.
His first victim caught him in her house, so he shot her, and in true Jack-The-Ripper Style disembowelled her. He then collected her blood in a yoghurt pot and drank it. one of the details in his Modus Operandi was that next to his victims there would often be evidence of some kind of bloodstained drinking vessel, or blood collection bucket.His victims were mainly women from thereon in: usually in their own homes.It was only when he stole a victim's car and it was found abandoned that the police got their first real whiff of him. They also tracked him down via his gun registration.
When Chase was safely in custody, the police had the unenviable task of going through his flat. You think the Texas Chainsaw Massacre takes place in an odd house? - try this one. It stank of rotten flesh and everything was bloodstained. Most of his crockery bore evidence of blood-based meals, and the blender was clogged up with human tissue. He had some 'snacks' in the fridge (use your imagination) and bits of
brain in containers. He also had a nice collection of pet collars.He had thoughtfully marked out the date of each murder on a calendar.I'm sure the police were really grateful for that.
By this time, Chase had probably decided the police were in league with the Nazi's and their UFO controllers, yet he was not declared insane!!! My god, what exactly do you have to DO to be declared legally insane? Is thinking your blood is turning to powder not an indication of something being very wrong?
In 1979 Richard Trenton Chase was convicted of 6 murders and sentenced to the gas chamber. In 1980, a prison guard checking on him noticed he was rather quiet that day. Chase was dead - he'd been saving up his medication and overdosed. May legions of hell-hounds and Satanic kittens drag him into the underworld.
Interesting. Some sick f*cks out there, huh? Humans at least...SOME deserve death, but pets? LOL, honestly once I'm dead I don't care whats done with my remains! EAT ME IF U WISH!! LMFAO!
uh... speak for youself divine :P
anyway, when did the last three happen?
anyway, when did the last three happen?
John George haigh, Born 1910, hanged 1949
First known victim 1944, last victim 1949
Haarman born 1879 decapitated 1924 - not hanged,my mistake
First known Victim 1918, last Victim 1924
Richard Trenton Chase Born 1950, committed suicide 1980
First known victim 1977. last victim 1978
First known victim 1944, last victim 1949
Haarman born 1879 decapitated 1924 - not hanged,my mistake
First known Victim 1918, last Victim 1924
Richard Trenton Chase Born 1950, committed suicide 1980
First known victim 1977. last victim 1978
Not a vampire: but a serial killer who OUGHT to be a Vampire: Richard "Nightstalker" Ramirez: I think he had the looks for it. Very nasty piece of work: liked to break into homes and kill, and did it all for Satan.
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Lovely article about Vampire serial Killers HERE. Written by Katharine Ramsland, no less.
The moral of this thread, and all these stories is: Mental Health Services suck...bigtime. A lot of all this could have been avoided because the signs were there, but poor parenting, poor policing and a lack of understanding generally allowed so many killers to slip through the net.
I hasten to add there are no signs of any of these killers rising from the grave.
The moral of this thread, and all these stories is: Mental Health Services suck...bigtime. A lot of all this could have been avoided because the signs were there, but poor parenting, poor policing and a lack of understanding generally allowed so many killers to slip through the net.
I hasten to add there are no signs of any of these killers rising from the grave.
Hmmm, I find this all very interesting. Yes indeed.
:cofpap: Know that I think about it your right. He really isn't a "Serial Killer".
But... yeah, thanks for making a new thread for Rod. I'm sure he appreaciates it, lol.
But... yeah, thanks for making a new thread for Rod. I'm sure he appreaciates it, lol.
I'm afraid he won't appreciate what I think of him. lol.
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