I have noticed that a lot of people come on this site asking us to help them become vampires. I feel that I was born with it and if you do not have it in your blood then you can not be a real vampire. It is hard to teach a an old dog new tricks. You must have already been born with this gift to be able to call yourself a real vampire. A lot of people say they have done research and all that but who cares about that. You must have been born with the gift in order to become a real vampire. It is hard to become a vampire just out of the blue. I may be wrong but that is what I think about it. Please email me at vampire22@marinecorps.com and also at this site please


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10:22am :starwars:

I am one of those people that want to be one, is there no possible way to become one, unless you were born with some special power? :meow:

if vampire are real than they would have to be the ones from traditional lore, or something simular. so the rules are as simple as possible "if your alive, your not a vampire" if you were born under ceratin conditions in some myths or die ceratin ways in others than your body may rise as a vampire upon death, but no one alive can be avmpire in the truest sense of the word"

not only do i understand now, but i also am more interested in vampires.

I'm not sure about being a vampire in the the pure, old form. But I believe that people certainly are born with a... desire (for lack of a better word)... for vampric activities. For instance. I am am not claiming I have special powers, or I am immortal. That is not it. But from the time I was little (like 5 or 6) my friend and I would bite eachother... hard enough to draw blood... And it wasn't a phase that went away. Still today I love blood... So I'm not saying people can't become vampires (within reason) or people are born vampires (Again within reason) but I believe it is definately possible to inherit some of those traits from past lives or what not.

Having traits that are simular to vampires don't actually make them vampiric traits. Vampires are not the only creatures that enjoy blood.

Well everyone has different points of view. It could be a bit of everything. Maybe you are born with something that calls you to the vampire way. Like a destination in life.

If you want to call yourself a vampire then do it. There isn't really no special way to "become" one. Rhuen made a good point on this. In order to be an actual vampire you must not be alive, so you must first die.

Good God. I really don't get it, why in the fuck do you people believe in vampires?

Oh, and this is the forum where if you're going to claim they exist or that you are one you'd better be able to prove it.

If you don't believe in them then why are you on this website? Why are you posting things on our message boards?

Viktr, considering Bahamut has about 1000 times the post count you do, I think its safe to assume that there's plenty here remotely, if not at all related to vampires.
Furthermore, the majority of people in this room at least dont believe in vampires. Now that's not to say they don't exist, but it's like discussing god. (no purpose)
Myself, I don't believe in vampires, but I am fascinated by the occult and old myths. And even by not believing in vampires, I can still do a fair amount of posting on OUR boards.
Now, try to be nice.

Congratulations stupid n00b, you're the 1,000,000 n00b to ask me that!



Your message board? Sorry kiddo, but this is Sire's message board. End of discussion there.

As for the rest, I don't believe in them, because I'm sensible enough to not believe in fairy tales. However I do enjoy discussing them. Which is what this forum is for, discussing, if one wants to assert their existence on this forum one must offer proof.

:rolleyes: Yah how in the world are you born with a vampire gift? wtf? can you explain cuz i dont seem to see...plus god made man not vamprires where is it the bible that it says LOOKY OVER HERE I MADE A VAMPIRE TO KILL ALL MY CREATIONS! wtf? :imu:
btw: u cant be born with ne gift lets all get a reality check!
Luv ya! ~*MiRaNdA*~




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Well let's see here ~*MiRaNdA*~, god created Lilith...kicked Lilith out of paradise. If the vampires are the Lillum, then yes, technically they were created by god.
So nya.

I'm not disagreeing with you that people can't be born vampires.

Oh, and there's more than one holy book out there, start reading. :devilbook:

Uh yah ok well Umm yah how in the hell am i suppose to kno bout a gay fake bible i dont worship the devil... but yah oh well show me in the bible where it says basically vampires?!
Luv ya! ~*MiRaNdA*~

Once you've read one; you've read them all. Just change a few names, substitute a pig for a cow, alter a few dates - holy books are almost as bad as John Grisham stories.

Miranda, it isn't about god, there are many things in this world not described in the bible. Many technologies. And what they are talking of, or at least my take of it is this, the subject they discuss is far too varied to truly explain. Vampires, first we would have to decide what they are, and IF they exist. If we are talking sanguinaris (sp?) then we are speaking of a human subculture that derives it's common theme from a veneration and aspiring nature towards vampirism. If we are talking of vampires from lore, then we talk of someone who died, and became a bloodsucker, there are soo many myths out there about this it isn't even fun, and so I shall merely say that one has to die first. As another point, there is then the vampire of our current literary and theatrical take, Anne Rice, Vampire: the Masquerade, that kind of stuff. And my take on this is that it is the creation of man. I'm very possibly wrong, and my opinions are likely to change if I ever meet one *I don't know, but somehow when something is breathing down your neck and ready to kill you, you kind of HAVE to believe at that point*. As yet another point, Lilith was brought up. Lilith is believed to be the wife before Eve, a section of the bible that has been ommited in the current accepted version because it shows an ill side of Adam, as it was he that took advantage of Lilith, even though she was a complete and utter evil in the world. Lilith refused to be subservient to man, and Adam beat her and raped her, giving her a daughter, God cast her out of Eden and took one of Adam's ribs to make the second woman Eve, to be subservient to man, from whence she came. Once again, I must explain that this is not the accepted doctrine of many Christian Religios orders, and I don't mean to offend anyone with it. But the bible is a strange book, a collection of varying stories, the bible has many different translations and many different versions, this was one version of the early bibles, but it was taken too and has been obscured in myth. Next, the thing about Lilith giving birth to all the monsters of the world, I haven't read anything saying that explicitly, nor have I read anything against it. But I think it is a literary liscense of White-wolf publications. And third, the bible probably does say something about vampires somewhere, I haven't read it all the way, but it makes mentions of werewolves I've heard, so why not vampires. *laughs* It's one hell of a book, it's going to take me a long time to read it. Welcome to the boards by the way Miranda, somehow you remind me of someone I care about who lives near me. I wish you the best, if you ever want to talk, I'd be happy to, I'm sorry if I offended you with what I said earlier, it's just that I read a lot, and I tend to study the bible a lot lately, and I've found that it is one of the biggest and strangest books I'll ever read. Really though, you sound like a great person, I'd love to talk to you if you ever get the chance to.

umm ~*MiRaNdA*~ well dear everyone is born with gifts like the gift of writing of the gift of music not all people can sing or play instruments or write stories that are accually good enough to be called literature, so all im saying is that all people are born with gifts, maybe some more extreme than others so i wouldn't say anything in which you dont have all the knowledge on the subject (i swear im not trying to be mean) but yea oh and how do you know there is a god dear (not that im doubting there may be a higher power) just saying check your resourses before you post something next time ^_^

Oh, are you saying the teachings of Buddha, the Koran, and the Torah are all "gay devil-worshipping fake bibles"?
That's pretty offensive, dear, and I in no way mean to start some sort of flame war, but giving you a heads up that less...tactful members might find it offensive as well.

I can't show you the Lillum in the bible, but I'd be happy to show you referances in the Zohar or Book of Enoch, given enough time...and since the Torah and Book of Enoch (consequently deleted) are both roots and key elements in the Old Testament of YOUR Bible...isn't that good enough?

No im not saying they are gay I just myself dont believe in devil worshiping! iom sorry if i offended ne one! its my opinion and i dont think the same as u guys! i just dont go around doing research on all that stuff! Thats not my kinda things...
the reason is because i think its interesting! i like to hear bout ppls views on things! plus just cuz i dont believe in vampires doesnt mean i dont think they are dumb! i think like in the movies they are cool! but nobody can be born as a vampire! and if god kicked them thingys off the planet earth he sure in the hell had a good reason! hey must of not liked them or really cared cuz yah! so yah
Luv ya! ~*MiRaNdA*~

~*MiRaNdA*~, I am not a devil-worshipper.
Not everyone who isn't a Christian and doesn't read the bible; is a devil-worshipper.

And while I agree with you on this, that a normal human cannot be born a vampire...
*cough*
If you believe in god, how can you disregard the existence of demons?

well now that everyone is learning to get along let's gather together and sing. yeah right, if someone believes one thing, let them because that is what they believe and how they were taught. i'm sure given time we'll all find out the truth.

Yeah, Saturn isn't a devil-worshipper because he's not a christian.


He's a devil-worshipper because he's Jewish.


Just kidding man, you know I respect ya.

Hehe...yeah, just another one of those Christ-killing kikes, gotta be 3vi1.

Okay, I'm out until this thing gets back on topic.

If there is God, there is a Devil. But then some might say there is no God . . . . . . everyone has different views and different religions.

There will always be different views on vampires. So back to the topic . . . .

If you are born a vampire . . . . do you suddenly wake up one day or something? I do think there maybe something that draws you to the vampire way but mainly I think it is the human thirst for knowlege that makes us question this. Humans want to know all and everything.

*buzzing in ear* dam that goverment tracking chip!

I think I can be reasonably confident in saying: it's personal. There are those who say you have to be 'turned' , there are those who say you 'just know', and there are those who say the drinking of blood means you are in a sense a vampire. There is no single answer to your question...at least, not in this messageboard. I'm sure there's plenty of other places where they're happy to give you 'an answer' - but you may have to pay for it.

Hmm...

Well, I LOVE drinking blood, why? -It gives me a kick, -I think more clearly and more "bonuses"....I've been doing this for quite awhile..years..
Am I a vampire? Nope, when I was younger I would like to think that because vampires(movie vampires) are cool IMO.

I realized long time ago I AM NOT a vampire, yes I drink blood and I love it...some put me under the category of HLV...I dont, they do..
I love fangs, and I love to bite....I've never claimed I was a vampire...I was confused in the beginning but i've never claimed to be some immortal blood addict..

But all of this, I only did with 3 persons; my g/f, my best friend and another friend.
NOTE: My two friends are girls...but there isn't anything sexual involved when I "drink" from them...(there is with my g/f sometimes..more of a knife thing )..

I believe I was partially born with this (in my genes) and that most of it has something to do with the environment and so on...
When people claim they are vampires it's ok for me, because I assume they mean that they like drinking blood etc...But if they start telling me that they've been living for 2000 years etc...they'd just look like fools to me.

But it's fun to see when some of my friends "bust in", when my g/f and I are "drinking"....They are mostly shocked....and start calling us vampires...this makes someone believe that we claim to be vampires when we do not....but we really don't care and just go with the flow...it's always fun to scare people...

Wow...hmm...I think, wether or not i believe one is born with it, is stated above..the 4th "column"..

I want to begin by explaining to Miranda that not being a Christian does not make you a devil worshipper. Muslims and Jews, for example, worship the same god you do. Calling them devil worshippers is calling your own God the devil. If you're so devout a Christian, you should know that you are to love thy neighbor, not call him a "gay devil worshipper".

And believe me, every time you repeat the devil worshipper gimmick, you're calling them gay devil worshippers. Read the very words you're typing.

Next, I've bolded one of your last statemens. You [b]should be researching "that stuff" if you want to discuss it here. This site, believe it or not, houses some of the keenest scientific, theologic, philosophic minds on the planet. If you spout out some ill-informed or outright incorrect stuff, someone will be along to correct you. Do the research. Not only is it good exercise for your mind, it'll save you and the rest of us some time later on in having to correct you.

Opinions are wonderful. Everyone is entitled to them. However, simply putting an "I believe" before a statement of fact does not make it an opinion. For example, your gay devil worshipping statement was patently incorrect, considering that the god of the people you called gay devil worshippers is your god.

You see? Research is indeed a good thing. It expands your knowledge. It lessens the chance that you're wrong.

I'll assist you in finding the information on some things that you've been sorely wrong about in this thread.

Look up "The Apocryphia". Look up "The Nicean Council". Look up "Nephelheim".

Happy reading.

I don't really think I am one but I've always had dreams about them searching for me or following me.

I was not born a vampire, I came to know that my thoughts ran dark and my emotions tended toward the macabe. As I learned the old tales and researched different religions and theories I understood more what the psychology was and decided it was for me.

I am not a vampire - I enjoy blood, death and all things dark and gruesome but I am not immortal, sunlight does give me a wicked burn (yea for the light skinned!) but it won't kill me.

I am gothic in mood, thought, dress and lifestyle.

That is all.

As far as i am concerned if vampyres are real, which I am yet to be convinced,then you can not just become one. You have to I guess, have some thing in your genes. Passed on through generations. Although I think this is very unlikely because to keep this running through the familly there would have to be two parentals with the 'vampire' gene, and that is only if you beleive that a vampyre can actually reproduce in this way.

As for ceremonies as such, these may make someone think that they are a vampyre, therefore act like a vampyre. This then becomes dangerous to the mentalitly and dangerous to others surrounding them.


Alot of people like the idea surrounding being a vampyre. It is the 'new thing' to be after all. Some of these people become to think that they actually are a vampyre, whereas others just pretend. Some decide that they do not know if they are or not and some know definatly that they are not and turn to researching vampyres as an interest.