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0rdyn3
This is hilarious -



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SATANIC CULTS
Halloween, Birthdays, Christmas, Good Friday, Easter Sunday. These are happy or benevolent days for most of us. But for Satanists these dates, and the Great Sabbats of the lunar calendar, are festivals of evil that may include animal sacrifice, ritualistic child abuse, rape and murder.

People can be attracted to devil worship for a variety of reasons: rebellion against authority and moral restraints; the promise of power, identity and self-esteem; curiosity; the thrill of occult knowledge; peer attention and status; drug abuse; dissatisfaction with their church experience. Most of those who venture into Satanism are superficial "dabblers." They feed on satanic books, heavy metal music, and fantasy role playing games.

Far fewer in number, but much more deadly, are those involved in organized satanic groups. The behavior of some of the most secretive satanic cults is so bizarre and revolting, that is seems too bad to be true. We would like to believe that their activities are the work of a few isolated "sickos." It should be noted that the existence of such groups has been denied by the FBI and others.  But there are reputable police, journalists, therapists, and clergy who believe that the evidence is as clear and convincing as it is nauseating and terrifying.

The infamous murders by Charles Manson's California's "Family" in the 60's, by New York's "Son of Sam" in the 70's, plus a variety of other slayings right through the 80's, are now believed to have been the work of a national network of satanic cults, dealing in drugs, pornography, orgies, arson, and murder.

Much of the devil's deadly work, however, takes place out of the public eye, well hidden within "inter-generational cults" that specialize in the ritualistic sexual abuse, torture, and murder of infants and children. It was the women's movement that led to a growing awareness of incest, which in turn began to surface the menace of "inter-generational cults."

These satanic covens include networks of doctors, teachers, clergy, lawyers, police, morticians, etc., who were themselves, as children, painstakingly indoctrinated into the beliefs and practices of the cult. They now use their professions to facilitate the cult's diabolical designs.

In order to gain control of their minds and wills, young children are constantly (not just during the rituals) subjected to a ghastly gauntlet of cruelties that include, briefly: beatings; starvation; needles and electric shock; smearing with and ingestion of urine, feces, blood and flesh; long isolation in dark, fearful places; drugs; forced sexual revels with other children, animals, adults, or the dead; forced murder of specially breed or adopted babies; rebirth to, or marriage with, Satan, etc. The more evil the deed, the more innocence is corrupted, the more religious symbols and settings are desecrated, the more power the satanist believe they derive. Jesus Christ and the Church are the Satanist's archenemies and special targets of hatred and venom.

Many children don't survive. They are sacrificed to the devil, go insane, or end up committing suicide. Those that do survive might well appear to be normal. They might go on to become the professionals listed above. Their horrid memory of their cultic abuse, of the mutilation or murder of their pets or friends, is repressed in their unconscious minds. It often requires many years of intensive therapy for the root causes of a survivor's disorders to surface.

Perhaps most chilling of all, survivors are subconsciously programmed to return, at a designated age, to work for Satan in the cult. They themselves then become the demonic abusers of their own (and others') children. In this way the cult becomes "inter-generational."

The deadliest satanic cults are able to continue their criminal activities because of their absolute secrecy and because of the difficulty we have believing in the existence of such nefarious groups. Our hope and prayer is that, by exposing their dark deeds, we will help thwart the evil forces at work among us today.

Ronald Stanley, O.P.


I wonder if Satanic Cults like that actually exist somewhere...
Saturn9
As long as there is Christianity there will be an antithesis.

I have no doubt said cults exist, however the ratio of those cults compared to that of satanist punks in the basement of their suburban home sacrificing the house cat...
Kinda leaves the whole satanist concept a bit jaded.

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Most of those who venture into Satanism are superficial "dabblers." They feed on satanic books, heavy metal music, and fantasy role playing games.

angry.gif
*goes back to playing PS2, drinking chai which was resting on The Book of Enoch, and listening to OMC*
...
*and grumbles something about suburban WASP mothers and their propaganda*
NightVision
Oh dear. These Satanists aren't very good at covering their tracks aren't they?Which 'Christian' website did you find this on :lol: (note the quotes)

I'd call this kind of 'Satanism' Wheatleyan Satanism (as opposed to LaVeyan Satanism which makes a lot of sense if you're fed up with organised religion), ie, it comes from the sensationalist novels of Dennis Wheatley. The Fundamentalists love this stuff, it helps fill the churches. Playing on the same old fears good God-fearing folk have had for centuries that resulted in the Salem Witch Trials and The WitchFinders over here. And if unchecked could have the same result. It's just a modern variant.

People Talk. Communities aren't that good at keeping secrets. If this was going on you wouldn't need an article to tell you about it. Your neighbours would be whispering, it would be one of those 'common yet not common knowledge' things, like the ' Alleged Mayor's Affair'.

Also, it's just too much darn hard work. I imagine there's a lot of paperwork and handshaking involved in making people disappear. Ok supposing there are evil doctors and lawyers and police involved. How do they get round their colleagues who aren't involved?

I'm not saying that nothing is ever successfully covered up. Just that we ought to notice history repeating in certain ways.

The big clue is that the whole concept is filled with entirely literal opposition to Christianity, therefore it is based on, and probably created by Christianity. I would have thought Satan would be a bit more creative than that.

If you are looking for something you are more likely to see it. Supposing the guy who wrote this article came upon, oh I don't know, some of us on this board sitting in a cemetery. To us, we are there because we are friends, we like cemeteries because we find them inspiring. We might even be visiting a friend's grave. This guy thinks: "They're getting ready to dig up a corpse!" Whereas another passerby might think "Oh it's those kids again, I wish they'd hang around somewhere else".

I'm not making my point very well, Oh well. I'm tired. Fuck 'em.
Lestattheblackhearted
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*goes back to playing PS2, drinking chai which was resting on The Book of Enoch, and listening to OMC*
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*and grumbles something about suburban WASP mothers and their propaganda*

angry.gif yeah...i have nothing against you mate, but the books of enoch, or the calls of enoch as i like to refer to it as, should NOT be taken lightly! angry.gif don't get me wrong, im a christian, but have had a very bad exprerience with the text.

*TIM*
Saturn9
I regard the Book of Enoch the same as I do the torah, it's literature.
I actually enjoyed it a lot, and I'm dissapointed modern Judau-Christianity denies it.
Sorry about making it an impromptu coaster. ;)
0rdyn3
QUOTE (NightVision @ Mar 5 2004, 06:47 AM)
I'm not making my point very well, Oh well. I'm tired. Fuck 'em.

No, you are - it's the same way me and Laz feel.
_PunkGeneral_
satanists are annoying little worms, just like christians, fuck em
0rdyn3
in the arse!
Saturn9
with a crucifix!
Sherri
In a church on sunday screaming, "fuck me...fuck me..."
Lazarus
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0rdyn3
Jesus.
Saturn9
Christ...
0rdyn3
On a stick....
Lestattheblackhearted
errrr...is this thread actually going anywhere? or has it turned into 'lets all make sentences'?! :lol: :P
0rdyn3
Hmmm...

OK let's talk about Satan.

Satan is cool. Hail our Dark Lord. Oh mighty powerful Satan. Let's go kill everyone at our school and play soom Doom. lol

PS - Marilyn Manson rocks!
NightVision
Who was it who said, the church burning kinds of satanists are just Christians in drag?
0rdyn3
Hmm... i dunno. Sounds familiar i guess...
Louie
QUOTE (CoffinRox @ Mar 5 2004, 08:49 AM)
I wonder if Satanic Cults like that actually exist somewhere...

There is not one fucking thing funny about this. "Cults" like this do exist. Children do get fucked, and tortured. It is not funny.

You may amuse yourself with truth, but if so, you are a dumbass.

Get a life.

Get a clue.
AzraelFilth
QUOTE (Louie @ Mar 17 2004, 03:56 PM)
QUOTE (CoffinRox @ Mar 5 2004, 08:49 AM)
I wonder if Satanic Cults like that actually exist somewhere...

There is not one fucking thing funny about this. "Cults" like this do exist. Children do get fucked, and tortured. It is not funny.

You may amuse yourself with truth, but if so, you are a dumbass.

Get a life.

Get a clue.

damn dude......don't like spazz out or something. have some pie. i'm sure even satanists like pie.
0rdyn3
LMAO!
Saturn9
QUOTE (Louie @ Mar 17 2004, 04:56 PM)
There is not one fucking thing funny about this. "Cults" like this do exist. Children do get fucked, and tortured. It is not funny.

You may amuse yourself with truth, but if so, you are a dumbass.

Get a life.

Get a clue.

Yes, the world is a big place.
The only REAL examples that come to mind of this is the Manson house (had nothing to do with Satanism), and maybe the Thugee death cults (Kali > Satan :P ).
So go ahead, Louie, live in fear.

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damn dude......don't like spazz out or something. have some pie. i'm sure even satanists like pie.

I like pie.
NightVision
QUOTE (Louie @ Mar 17 2004, 09:56 PM)
QUOTE (CoffinRox @ Mar 5 2004, 08:49 AM)
I wonder if Satanic Cults like that actually exist somewhere...

There is not one fucking thing funny about this. "Cults" like this do exist. Children do get fucked, and tortured. It is not funny.

You may amuse yourself with truth, but if so, you are a dumbass.

Get a life.

Get a clue.

...I'm sure you have spent a fair while looking into this, so, your evidence please....? News reports will do.
Shadout
I'm sure that there are instances where cults abuse children as a result of their own misguided beliefs. These are not necessarily 'satanic' cults. For example the practise of raping a virgin girls in Africa to cure oneself of AIDS is something that was originally puported by the Christian church there.

In all honesty, many of the cults in the western world that claim to be satanic will be nothing more than a few adolescent boys or socially retarded adults who think it's a good way to make impressionable girls think they are cool and interesting.

The scary part about that is that they DO always seem to have a harem at least two or three strong...
0rdyn3
And theyre really ugly, too. lol

The Louie guy that posted that obviously didn't understand that we where laughing at the fact that the person who wrote the artical was a moron. I guess they thought we where saying that molestation is funny or something. Just someone eager to point fingers and such - now THATS funny.

Hey, dude or dude-et - if you're gonna flame someone you should at least get your facts straight first - now you just look like a dork. Eat some more pie :).
Louie
Do not presume to insult me. I am quite learned in this aspect of life.

News reports? Is that what you want? Just one question...how long has you head been up your ass? You think news reports are fact? That they are what decides what is real or not? Wake up! I will not offer proof. I do not feel the need to tell you of the converstaions with people...the many people I have met..totally fucked over.

Not for you to just joke about.
Louie
QUOTE (CoffinRox @ Mar 18 2004, 09:49 PM)
And theyre really ugly, too. lol

The Louie guy that posted that obviously didn't understand that we where laughing at the fact that the person who wrote the artical was a moron. I guess they thought we where saying that molestation is funny or something. Just someone eager to point fingers and such - now THATS funny.

Hey, dude or dude-et - if you're gonna flame someone you should at least get your facts straight first - now you just look like a dork. Eat some more pie :).

I missed this post...what a shame.

I did understand what you were laughing at. The point is, you were making light, of a very heavy topic. Even though the topic was...well...odviously cosnservative, and just propaganda...satisasm exists...and there are many people who suffer. I have met too many people to want that to be laughed at. I am not an idiot, and if you knew me, you wouldnt say that...perhaps I was too quick to jump on the gun...and maybe I was not. Doesnt matter. I have said what i want...maybe next time you see an article like that, you will have some Idea as to the seriousness that it really is.
0rdyn3
Ok.
hardrocksoul
Interesting...
0rdyn3
What's interesting?
Saturn9
QUOTE (Louie @ Mar 18 2004, 05:19 PM)
I missed this post...what a shame.

I did understand what you were laughing at. The point is, you were making light, of a very heavy topic. Even though the topic was...well...odviously cosnservative, and just propaganda...satisasm exists...and there are many people who suffer. I have met too many people to want that to be laughed at. I am not an idiot, and if you knew me, you wouldnt say that...perhaps I was too quick to jump on the gun...and maybe I was not. Doesnt matter. I have said what i want...maybe next time you see an article like that, you will have some Idea as to the seriousness that it really is.

WOAH

Are you saying that Satanists are any more prone to molestation than CHRISTIANS?!
HA!
Oh that's good...
You think satanic cults are fucked up? Spend a couple of summers in Salt Lake City, there's a lot of perversion in that town, and no one talks about it. (isnt considered proper)

Bad people exist regardless of what faith, faith just has a knack of bringing bad people together.
Yes it's serious, BUT THERE'S NOT A GODDAMN THING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.
Look at any group of people, and you'll have a percentage who are sick, deranged, and otherwise make you uneasy.

Satanists are no different from any other, Louis.
0rdyn3
Yeah - maybe thier better. Because they don't hide thier evil.
Rhuen
The only truelly satanic clan that comes to mind is that one in England I believe that had a little house near where a haunted hotel now stands they found bodies of many children and deformed people on those grounds, and the group even had a black cat that was said to be the devil in disguise that ate at their table. and their are those disturbing findings of numerouse skeletons in old Obuletes the archioligist think they are finding nothing but old prisoners then find a body with some modern clotheing or item on the skeleton and signs of a satanic ritual haveing taken place.
I know these people exist but they are nothing in terms of death and torture compared to other faiths, need I bring up the Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades, The demon hunter guilds that found false proof that some one was an evil creature so they executed the insane, retarded, deformed babies, and any one who was considered an outsider, or how about ole St. Patrick who pushed people off of cliffs who did not "accept" the Christian God, "thats what the snakes out of ireland thing means by the way", I can bring up soo much more for almost any reliegion that mores than 100 years old. Like the story of Moses how god promised them a certain land but it was already occupied, so Moses and his people killed the all the men and raped the women. but then disease started to spread so Moses claimed God told him to kill all the women too. and thus they did.
did I mention they killed all the male children too? Satanists are lagging behind the so called "good" guys. If they really want to be different how about being nice and accepting all faiths as true in their own ways with out hateing "now that tends to really seperate people from society and usually get them killed in the process."
Georgie Pin
QUOTE (Rhuen @ Mar 20 2004, 06:37 AM)
The only truelly satanic clan that comes to mind is that one in England I believe that had a little house near where a haunted hotel now stands they found bodies of many children and deformed people on those grounds, and the group even had a black cat that was said to be the devil in disguise that ate at their table. and their are those disturbing findings of numerouse skeletons in old Obuletes the archioligist think they are finding nothing but old prisoners then find a body with some modern clotheing or item on the skeleton and signs of a satanic ritual haveing taken place.

Could you be a bit more specific Rhuen? Genuinely interested.

There is zero evidence of Satanic abuse. There have been accusations here in England; in Rochdale and the Orkneys. Children were removed from their families and their lives destroyed - parents and children. A few fundamentalist Christian social workers were to blame. They persuaded the police and others and the saddest situation you can imagine resulted. It was all proved false.

It boils down to religeous convictions. Some Christians cannot see the world without seeing Satan's influence. As for 'Satanists' - laughable. Right up there with Wicca as a system of 'beliefs' invented within living memory that profess to be ancient. They aren't.
NightVision
QUOTE (Louie @ Mar 18 2004, 10:15 PM)
Do not presume to insult me. I am quite learned in this aspect of life.

News reports? Is that what you want? Just one question...how long has you head been up your ass? You think news reports are fact? That they are what decides what is real or not? Wake up! I will not offer proof. I do not feel the need to tell you of the converstaions with people...the many people I have met..totally fucked over.

Not for you to just joke about.

So you can't give any evidence and have resorted to insults and threats when I have not insulted you at all. Kinda defensive wouldn't you say?

So you are saying conversations are valid but news reports are not. Interesting.

Is this your first message board by any chance? Or for some unaccountable reason do moderators keep banning you?
0rdyn3
You're too cool, NV!
GodZero
If you are not on a modem, try downloading this - Satanism: Satan's Bloody Teaching.

NOTE: This is BIG one (60+ mb)
Saturn9
Propaganda on Satanism...THAT IS CLASSICO!
Really, good find. thumbsup.gif
0rdyn3
Did you get that from the Devil?
DarkEdenReigns371
QUOTE (_PunkGeneral_ @ Mar 9 2004, 05:52 PM)
satanists are annoying little worms, just like christians, fuck em

i agree but not the only christians that annoy me are the holy-er than god extreme quakers :rolleyes:
DarkEdenReigns371
QUOTE (Saturn9 @ Mar 17 2004, 08:09 PM)
QUOTE (Louie @ Mar 17 2004, 04:56 PM)
There is not one fucking thing funny about this. "Cults" like this do exist. Children do get fucked, and tortured. It is not funny.

You may amuse yourself with truth, but if so, you are a dumbass.

Get a life.

Get a clue.

Yes, the world is a big place.
The only REAL examples that come to mind of this is the Manson house (had nothing to do with Satanism), and maybe the Thugee death cults (Kali > Satan :P ).
So go ahead, Louie, live in fear.

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damn dude......don't like spazz out or something. have some pie. i'm sure even satanists like pie.

I like pie.

i like eggs
Saturn9
QUOTE (DarkEdenReigns371 @ Mar 25 2004, 12:15 PM)
i agree but not the only christians that annoy me are the holy-er than god extreme quakers :rolleyes:

I've actually found Quakers to be much more open-minded than born-again-Southern-Babtists.
At least Quakers listen, and they dont hit you.
Rhuen
QUOTE (Georgie Pin @ Mar 20 2004, 06:41 PM)
QUOTE (Rhuen @ Mar 20 2004, 06:37 AM)
The only truelly satanic clan that comes to mind is that one in England I believe that had a little house near where a haunted hotel now stands they found bodies of many children and deformed people on those grounds, and the group even had a black cat that was said to be the devil in disguise that ate at their table. and their are those disturbing findings of numerouse skeletons in old Obuletes the archioligist think they are finding nothing but old prisoners then find a body with some modern clotheing or item on the skeleton and signs of a satanic ritual haveing taken place.

Could you be a bit more specific Rhuen? Genuinely interested.

There is zero evidence of Satanic abuse. There have been accusations here in England; in Rochdale and the Orkneys. Children were removed from their families and their lives destroyed - parents and children. A few fundamentalist Christian social workers were to blame. They persuaded the police and others and the saddest situation you can imagine resulted. It was all proved false.

It boils down to religeous convictions. Some Christians cannot see the world without seeing Satan's influence. As for 'Satanists' - laughable. Right up there with Wicca as a system of 'beliefs' invented within living memory that profess to be ancient. They aren't.

I saw it on some program about haunted locations in the United Kingdom, the place was a hotel that was haunted by several ghosts includeing a talking black cat, that would ask if it can come into your room, an artist stayed their one night and claimed to have had an encounter with it and couldn't go to sleep so he painted the cat instead and that painting now is above the bar there. but they did find bodies on the grounds of the near by club house which belonged to a small group of bored rich psychos who did the killings supposedly in the name of satan.
manchot
Just a fun fact : True Satanists DO NOT believe in Satan.
0rdyn3
QUOTE (manchot @ Apr 4 2004, 06:41 PM)
Just a fun fact : True Satanists DO NOT believe in Satan.

It's so funny when people tell me that.

TRUE masterbaters don't masterbate, either. :)

HAIL OUR DARK LORD!!! Oh, Lucifer! Viva la France!
Cookie
I have to back manchot up on that. Read Anton LaVey's writing, and even the "Satanic Bible" itself, as well as other sources, True Satanists do not believe in Satan as a being, but rather as an idea.
0rdyn3
QUOTE (Cookie @ Apr 6 2004, 03:14 PM)
I have to back manchot up on that. Read Anton LaVey's writing, and even the "Satanic Bible" itself, as well as other sources, True Satanists do not believe in Satan as a being, but rather as an idea.

Hmm... maybe they should pick out a better name for themselves, then.

OH GREAT ABBADON, LORD OF THE DARK LANDS! SEND UNTO ME CHOCOLATE CHIP WITH YOUR POWER! OH HAIL THE DARK LORD!
Aurrora
OK FIRST OFF.... *getting on soap box*

Who in there right mind would ever worship something that has NO power... and is in all retrospect completely DUMB!

I can't think of any other way to say it. This is the only "religion" I have issues with. I can even deal with Wicca to an extent. Though Satanic... isn't to far off.

ANSWER ME THIS! ANYONE:
Why would someone worship something that calls you to kill the innocent of the world?
Why would ANYONE want to create havoc and mayhem... in an already sad and depraved world?
WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?

GOD CREATED ALL! HE CREATED LUCIFER YOU IDIOTS! SO THERE FOR HE CAN DESTROY HIM

PLUS... in there bible it states the end of the world... which has come and gone. How can you follow something like that?

May GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL...

"Forgive them lord for they know not what they do!"


Aurrora pope.gif



PS.
If God is for you who can be against you... and for that matter, you can say anything to me... try me... do your worst... you can't scare me! heart.gif
Cookie
The thing is, though, that no Satanist is worshipping anything that has any power. Any one that does worship Satan has a vastly misconstrued and uninformed idea as to what Satanism is all about!

"To become a Satanist, it is unnecessary to sell your soul to the Devil or make a pact with Satan. This threat was devised by Christianity to terrorize people so they would not stray from the fold." - Anton LaVey.

Satanism is the opposite of theism, an unreligion. It is closer to Buddhism than Christianity, since, like Satanists not worshipping Satan, the Buddhists do not worship Buddha. There are no Gods, no Heaven, and no Hell. There are no Holy Books, no Santa Claus, no Tooth Fairy, and no Easter Rabbit. No children, animals, virgins, or churches have been murdered, hurt, raped, or burned down by Satanists. "Why should we risk our necks just to burn down a handy place to put Christians?" - LaVey Satanism is ecclectic. It is similar to Humanism. Also, a similar concept is Darwinism, "Death to the weakling and wealth to the strong." - LaVey.
Aurrora
I say this out of love... honestly... You are Naive, and DUMB!

Have you no idea how many cults have brutally killed children, and virgins and so forth in the name of there "belief" They DO worship Satan! They believe in Havoc and mayhem! As most of the religions on the earth they believe against that of living a good life, and living harmoniously with the world.

Instead they wish to make it a world that in uninhabitable. Thus it would become what they've always wanted "hell on earth"

Plus... if you're not with God you're with Satan point blank and period! There is no "grey" Even in other religions they don't believe in killing the innocent. Most might not actually go and kidnap kids, and so forth, but dang, they do enough to set it up.

Let us look as the KKK... THIS IS A CULT! They've killed GOD ONLY KNOWS how many black's, and Christians, any anyone who doesn’t believe in what they do! They HAVE sold themselfs out to Satan! I'm not shoving religion down ANYONE’S throat... I'm stating facts! This is the truth... take or leave it!
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