Things we find to make us happy, we cultivate to enable these things to be more a part of our lives.
Searching them out, and avoiding things that makes us hurt. We let the outside world affect us.
As in when a loved one dies, we feel sorrowful for a time, but then it passes.
If we won the lottery, we would be overjoyed, but then it passes.
and we return to what many call our normal state of mind.
If our normal state of mind was already happy, and we had the internal discipline to accept change as it comes, and understand the basic means for which suffering becomes a part of our lives, then things can come and go and not affect our state of mind.

How is this possible? Through training your state of mind to not be affected by outside influences, but in a constant state of rest.

Get rid of the noise in the mind, and use your energy to its fullest potential.

but can most people cope.. without the voice in their head.. stiring them... from one crisis to another... can the human mind.. fully understand the truth.. and not make a lie out of everything. .. we all think diffrently... whoes to say... that we can force are self.. to think.. and behave.. like one orders us to do... If that be the case.. we are all.. still children ordered about by parents... or like dogs... ordered about.. and given commands.. in which to obey by...
in many ways.. what you state makes sence.. but in other's ways.. your thoughts can't really be understand by it full meaning... because.. we can never really vangish the voices.. in are head... in other words.. resistance is futile.. *sorry can't spell*
thanks, I really injoyed that.. altho I may have made a fool of myself..
till next time,
Narti

Interesting indeed. I understand your thoughts also and appreciate your honesty.

What I have stated has come of my own experiences, through direct correlation with some of the teachings of the Buddha. I don't put myself in a catagory with any religion, nor do I have a sacred book that I read daily. I live my existence right now in this body, and that is me.

Some of the main things I came to realize -Life is suffering.. People often remain unaware of the inevitable sufferings of life because they are distracted by temporary pleasure's.The causes of suffering are desire or craving, and ignorance.To end suffering completely, one must remove desire, ill will and ignorance.people who can avoid indulging one's desires and the oppsoite extreme of turturing one's mind and body unreasonably, can live happy with peace of mind.

I am very happy. I hope everyone can be as happy.

Fascinating idea.
But what if to achieve this state of mind you must first experience a short time of peace, away from suffering to give your mind time to relax and clear itself? How then can everyone achieve this? To escape from the suffering that is life you must isolate yourself from life, but to isolate yourself from life is to cause the death of what i see as the human soul. The interaction with fellow humans, the comradeship formed through shared suffering. Without this where wouldour great literature come from? Based as it is on human interaction and suffering. Without suffering how would we recognize peace when we at last reached it?Without this would our culture have ever existed? Would we ever exist? It is the indomitable fighting spirit of the human mind that has produced the greatest ideas of our time. What would we be without suffering? Nowhere i think.

I may have got the wrong end of the stick here but anyway.....

Interesting thoughts. I enjoyed reading that.
The process itself does not take in an isolation at all. All it takes is realization of the truth of what life is. When you ask the question of " where are you?", you instantly think of your location in reference to other things, such as in this house, in this state, in this country, on this planet, in this universe, but eventually you really don't have any more answers as to where you are.
The simple truth is that you are right here. Right now, right here you exist. In the next second you may not exist right here, for any number of things can change that. And change is the biggest catalyst in people's life.
Willingness to accept change is one of the main causes of people's suiffering. For me, learning to accept change, was one of the biggest steps to realize and accept.

I can only say what I have done in my life, not everyone's path is the same, but we are all the same.

I think I've been insulted.. <_<

How so?

Fascinating.

I'll have to return when I have collected my thoughts into a coherent group about this......

anytime

The act of allowing yourself to relate to others in a more real way, means you never have to be alone, or never feel alone.
This enables compassion in your life to be manifest and therefore your attitude.

Does anyone seriously not want to be happy or do people want to continue to suffer their whole lives?

How do people get through suffering.

Suffering could be basically catagorized into two groups, inevitable suffering, and self inflicted suffering.
The inevitable suffering is that of old age and death, the suffering caused by those factors that are out of our control and inevitably will happen.
Self inflicted suffering can be caused by anything that we do to cause ourselves pain. Some people I have heard on this board so far make their selves suffer mentally and then cause themselves physical pain.
In dealing with suffering, people often look for the temporary satisfactions. Many things which make us happy , or less stressed , are only temporary fixes, but then people will slip into the same mind frame they left, yet again to look for another happy fix. Reminds me of a drug addict.

Suffering is unavoidable at times though, but since I believe the ultimate pursuit of life is that of happiness, looking at suffering takes on a whole new perspective. In accepting my suffering, and allowing myself to endure it, I change my perspective of it to allow myself to have already experienced it.
Concentrating on the here and now instead of yesterday and tomorrow has saved so much mental energy

an empty paper
undisturbed snow
a walking slumber
of life's undertow
from within heavy lines
to reveal life is fake
scrape up the leaves
with an empty rake
in likeness it shows
which one will fall
with elasticity
of a bouncy ball
take a plung
fall from grace
finally one can know theirplace
which is the same
as all who breath
and life as full
as those who feed

since it is poetry thread, should be somepoetry

i would love your thoughts on my work thread: aftermath and side affect

your teaching brings questions and a path we understand but it's tough too fellow and some times happyness does not seem near as Valuable as death.

wow..Great stuff in here Buddha..I have yet to go back and re-read all your thoughts on happiness, but I will in a moment..
I liked your poem..It was really..Calm. Yes, thats what it is..Calm..

:)

all i can say is that i am completley confused.

I am trying to look at all of your works. I am about halfway right now. It seems very morbid, but very good writings.

this poem is so fantastic........ fabulous..... incredible...... wow....... obviously i am speechless and stunned by such a display of talent. it seems like you're questioning LIFE and its MEANING and its REALITY and where YOU BELONG in all of its confusion. i get the feeling of loss... somehow..... or unprepared or something..... it's like you're telling us: you can't really know what life is until you die....... OR: you can't really be real until you question your reality..... OR: you can't reach the top unless you climb up from the bottom..... OR: you can't succeed until you lose
something like that......... like something so deep that it can't be reached..... you're too smart for us, you know. you belong in someplace better. you give us widom from your heart and that is more honest and good than anyone can say. why don't you come to my thread and tell me how i can improve my work?
please please post more!!!!!! i love this poem........

i hope i didn't annoy you by posting this..... don't hate me....... i'm sorry....

^_^ ~*heart*~ Rachel

Rachel, hate is an emotion I never want to be acquainted with ever again.
Thank you for your kind words.
I only can speak from my experiences. These ideas are things that I was taught to think on, and have come to conclusions about it in that fashion.
I still have alot to learn, death will come to all, and I must learn now and not wait.

Rachel

She brings in the wind, with with rose on its breath
She lights up the room, and saves me from death
She walks in the woods with nothing to fear
She speaks so soft, like a little timid deer
She wants to be heard, without having to speak
She hears what I say, and thinks its real neat
She speaks what she feels without any flow
She affects other people more than she could know
She brings in the wind, this much I can tell
When I smell that rose, I think of Rachel

A friend wanted me to write a poem. I hope this was good.

wow.......... i love it........ ^_^ is it okay that i'm posting this? :D it's really amazing. it flows... it's beautiful. thank you. :)

post whatever you like. I am glad you liked it

B) i dont know why i did not come by here before! nice works!
but the best one is the one u wrote in Yuui thread...very nicley done!
makes me want a little buddha! will little buddha come and visit my thread?
u are so wise.........well at least I think u are. :D

Thank you BD. It really means alot to me that it means that much to you.

Forever within a minute

when I am here, I hear the band play
It sings a song each and everyday
A song that was sung many years ago
In a broadway hall, and on the TV show
Its words are very simple, everyone knows the tune
You don't have to go anywhere, don't even leave the room
You will here it too, when you finally will see
That the whole time searching, was only for me
and for that one who hangs around
It screams real loud, without making a sound
A song that is sung with every last breath
that familiar old tune, the sound of your death

okay...... i love this poem..... it's chilling. it's in-depth. the ending sucks your breath away.... it's intuitive....... creative..... flowing...... i love it. ^_^

Thank you very much :D

You really made me feel special. I really appreciate your comments.

^_^ awwwwwwwww so cute. LOL. i'm just being honest.

honest is the best way to have a friendship

Friend

our stars were born
on the very same day
No one knew anything more
Until we met
the very same way
not knowing what life is for

thank you

^_^ *hugs buddha with all dragon might*
love your new ones.....*kissles and runs away giggling* :D

good poetry as always... its you... definately

aww. thats was so nice *blushes*




me is all I can be

^_^ ya mesa nice...at times...mesa real nice...but sometimes mesa get sad,
then angry....then well mesa needith a buddha hug! then mesa ok.

:D haha. a buddha hug. Now that is a first. but mesa likes and can deal with a hug. haha

The loss of focus of the mind can easily be disrupted by not training the mind and refocusing. Letting this training slip, and allowing an emotional event to take place in which you internalize problems, or misread emotions, can be devastating to your state of mind and well being.
I have found this out erecently, and it continues to prove to me that training the mind to focus is one of the most important aspects to true happiness. without this, anything can disrupt your state of mind.

Me

I walk in a fire of boiling hot magma
in the middle of a volcano lair
My hair stands on end, my skin burns at the very air
my eyes water from the intense heat
seeking and searching for something, many things come and go
but nothing ever seems to stay except the magma boil
hot and steamy as it may be, breathing sulferish ash
The depths of my mind do I see
This poisoness cavern, of limitless depths
boils and churns with every thought, every grudge, every hate
Til the boiling reaching intensity that the cavern cannot contain
and what is inside comes seeping away through every crack and crevis
To know that to calm my volcanic mind
must be as a undisturbed underground pool
a cool reservoir, where ripples of thought float but do not disturb the surface
to keep this pool, and not the heat
with myself I must meet
and decide what it is I must do
to stay as calm as this cooling pool
is it what I want to end all the hate
can I really change, or is it too late
with a determined heart, of what I want
which is happiness and an open heart
caring, loving, hoping and dreaming
doing, and making my future more clear
Take this now, into my cool water pool
think on this and nothing more
for this is your life, not no one elses
we are the same, no matter the dresses
calm your own mind, and live for today
in this concentrate, its the only way
be here, be there, makes no difference see
right now, I am you, and you are me

mmmmmmm.. very nice.. I like the symbolizum.. the vocano... I think represents.. all the hate.. chaos.. in the world... it's appealing to the eye.. the colors it sends.. of red and orange.. and yellow.. eye catching...
I like the sudden change.. when the reader realizes that your comparing the volcano to your own being.... relating anger.. to a eruption.. of magana...
the ending is fantastic... you question your self.. wondering if.. you can turn back.. so much truth.... so. instead.. I feell that you excepted it.. if you can except... then you may be able to move on... the ending seems a bit romantic thou...
at least in my veiwing... the together ness.. like a marriage couple.. of the connection two lovers make...
very inspiring..
till next time,
Sondi R.

^_^ yes,yes i agree with narti....!
very good works my dear friend buddha.
*lix*

Davien

Dark and dank in my deepest depths
Depending deeply on drowning dreams
Defying demons their devious dance
Descend in dark and damp deceives
Feel the right, know the right
feel the start, of a fight
within yourself, with your mind
look inside, see what you find

Thank you BD and Narti. Your comments mean alot, though I am just a beginner.

hey buddah, it's Tasha (you don't no me)
thanx for what you said on my thread i guess...um.... yeah.... anywayz... this is really good ;) i no what you are talkin about well anywayz better get goin byebye for now i'll check more of you stuff out when i have more time.
~tasha~

thank you Tasha.
always good to hear different points of view. I am glad you enjoyed.

periods in time,
I find myself falling from a focus that is so sound of mind, it is second nature.

in this falling, I experience all the joy and pain it is to live in an emotional world, with my mind causing the grief I feel, my mind causing the happiness, instead of me just realizing the truth again.

Refocusing seems to be so important in daily life, that I need to come to the point where there is no more wandering, but total focus all the time.

I train for this time, I long for this time, so that I can withstand life, and all the pitfalls, and not suffer for all the mental snares.

You help, you hurt, you take, you give

never ending, the life that is, the life that was, the life that will be

very nice.... i like this one also

hey sorry forgot to ask if you have msn messenger...i would like to talk to you some more .....;)

Articulate and thought provking impressive

darKNess

darkness comes and darkness hides
everything we fear inside
it only wants our only dreams
inside us it will tear the seams
of lack of love or want of hate
it drowns us in a pool of fate
inside and out we fall forever
and will we give it a try? never!!
the pain we feel it runs inside
it runs it flips and flows my mind
you walk in here and tell me this
would be such lovely songs of bliss
but I have found it all with hate
and maliciousness of the morning date
The joy inside, is there right now
how to reach it, is when and how
so come inside this world of mine
and see just how to stop your time

^_^ lol...........i love it!
*slaps planet sparkely sticker on poem*

:lol: That was nice word structure in your poem...Its part of my life...Im not alone now... :lol:

Absolute truths to the unforgiving mind

I see this face, I feel this fear
it feels as though it is right here
a far away place as it resides
when present day and past collide
a crashing feel without a sound
things that make me turn around
inside my life, inside my place
for one who never saw a face
the pain endured, the path, a road
of well trodden dirt, dumped by the load
the soil is soft, no path defined
the problems that occur in mind
until I walk to make a path
I will endure my own rath
for with this path I will have lived
and make the dirt a positive
in my life, I walk along
I go right, I go wrong
But under this life, the one I take
I will not stumble on one mistake

Don- thank you, we are all more alike than first believed

BD- I am very happy that you enjoyed it. Love the sticker too :D

:P YAY! *jumps up and down*
this one rymes so nicely...mesa likes!