when i was reading and watching different things i saw some vampires had fangs there already while others fangs grew at the time of feeding.what is the most traditional way do they grow or are they just there?i dont know if any ones asked this before but i'd like to know.

Most vampires movies, books, legends, etc. I've seen the fangs stay put. But there are also plenty (Blade, The Lost Boys, etc.) where the fangs are retractable. There are even some vamp fiction where they don't have fangs at all! Which, I find kinda dumb, a vampire without fangs is kinda like a werewolf without fur. :rolleyes:

Yeah, just to get some more ideas in here, I think that the vampire fangs appear during the transformation during the vampire, when they're chillin' inside of their coffin, or (since growing teeth isn't exactly a quick process) over time after the vampire as become a vampire.

and I think that the vampire teeth are permenanet, and non retractable. If they were not, there would have to be super strong muscles to hold the fangs in place when the biting occured, it's easier just to have the teeth resting on the skull like the other teeth for support.

Actually , I've often wondered. Fangs as classically portrayed would not make those two little tidy vampire bite marks on the neck, would they? I mean, you'd have to somehow hook your upper jaw on the neck and apply pressure and I can't see how it would be practical.

Now, in the novel Dracula, Van Helsing points out fangs on the upper and lower jaw, so really you'd be looking at four holes rather than two, and a lot of bruising and laceration...

In Dracula, the "Sharp white teeth" are always there.

If you're going to have fangs that grow, I doubt you'd be able to retract them. For example, hamsters and rabbits have constantly growing teeth that have to be worn away by gnawing. Probably, in 'vampireland' fangs are more akin to feline claws that can be retracted at will.

Vampireland...I like that thought...

Well, I think there fangs would be grown in and couldn't retract. However it would be cool to be able to retract them...

to add to what someone else said about the amount of fangs in some movies they have 4 at the top a set of smaller ones inside the bigger ones and when i was talking to my mum she said the original vampire in that 1920's film "nosferatu" (soz i dont know how to spell it) had his fangs on the front teeth.

Yeah they were like rats teeth, I think this was because the filmmaker wanted to portray the Vampire as a disease-bringer, or to be more exact 'Plague-Carrier' which is the direct translation of the word Nosferatu.

I feel kind of stupid asking this.... Do any of you know what language "Nosferatu" is.... You guys probably already said it in here, and I missed it....

Um this might be in lore somewhere...but originally it was Greek (Nosophorus), and then got modernized and mispelled, so it's sort of a crossover of Greek and Slavonic.

it seems throgh the years the vampires have got better looking an stylish lol

yes, well, it is probably to attract the young, impressionable teenyboppers, who want to be cool.

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This is true. I wonder... if Victorian authors had never redefined the Vampire in literature and made him or her so alluring, sexy, stylish and less cadaverous, would boards like this exist at all?

i think a few boards would exist probably not as many as there are now to be honest it would be better cos you wouldnt get as many people coming here who obviously dont know alot about vampires but think coming here will make them cool lol

You see, this is completely different for me. I don't tell anybody IRL I have an interest in vampires, because they'd think I was a freak. Maybe it's a British thing.

That sucks. Are they scared by people who like them or something like that?

since most fictionalized vampires have basic human qualities (two legs, two arms, four fingers and a thumb on each hand), i would assume the fangs would not be able to retract.

One would assume the muscles required for retracting teeth would disturb normal facial expressions, causing them to be more noticable in human circumstances.

well, most people believe that vampires are evil, vile creatures of the night, and those who are interested in them must be evil vile creatures too. i am a little disturbed by the way authors these days tramsform the origonals, like Carmilla and Dracula into new age trash. no offense intended.but if people think you are a freal already, i dont see how it could hurt if they knew you were interested in vampires. i was branded a gothic vampire wannabe because of the way i dress and what i read, but it didnt hurt me at all. but, other people have social lives, so it is probably different with them.

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Yes that's part of it. I live in a small town. Everybody knows everybody, and more often than not cause trouble just for the sake of it. If you're female and you think of anything other than getting married and having kids you're a freak. Much as I'd like to stand up for what I believe in and be myself, I really don't have the energy to take all the shit, stupid questions and piss-taking that would inevitably follow. I know I shouldn't care what others think, but I prefer the easy life. Also, I don't really see that it's their business.

well said! i dont think the thing you said earlier about being british stops you telling people that you like vampires cos i'm british but then again i dont really give a shit about what others think about me. but i understand if i tried to say it to someone i just met they would prolly be a lil scared.

POeple at my old school just assume I am a vampire, becouse i wear all black and what not. At least i don't have to tell them. :)

I would think that's ok as long as you don't get hassle for it.

Another thing, and I wonder if Suicidal Dream agrees with me on this, is that the vampire subculture is a lot less developed on this side of the pond, so if you choose to dedicate yourself to it, you 'stick out' more. On the whole, it's better to express your gothdom in the cities.

It would be much more pleasing to me if vampires werent always considered "Gothic." Its a fasination, a hobby of mine, and I am in no way a "gothic" person. Most people associate goths with an attitude of rebellion and an attitude of hatred towards God or a god. I am not this. This is not me.

About fangs, which, I believe was the origional topic presented, I believe that they are always there, i.e. not retractable. When are they aquired? Upon embracement. If indeed embracement is the meathod in which one becomes a vampire, then I think THAT is when one recieves ones fangs.

As for location and number...I believe that they are only the upper and lower canines, the larger being found in the upper jaw. I find many a use for my pointed canines, such as opening difficult packages *cough* jerky *cough*.

Well, for humans, and most mammals, we have two slightly sharper teeth off center of our upper jaw, making it easier to tear meat and such. Eye teeth, right?
They're up there cause we most definatly don't bite up on our food, so, we have no need to have them on our lower jaw.
Vampires, if you think about it, would probably have a pretty similar jaw structure. Except, of course, their 'fangs' would be much sharper, if they would, in fact, bite their victims. Which is really the most traditional way in most mythology.
I think the most far-out approach would be retractable, because of the muscles in the mouth that would be needed, and the more reasonable they'd just stay put.

But another thing, how do you think the teeth would grow at all on a vampire? Would getting 'turned' cause the their eye teeth to start growing again, and thin out as they did so they'd get sharper? I think that'd make the most sense.

That's a very interesting theory: can you remmeber which book it was?

Yes i would like to repeat that question.

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Hey! Rhuen!

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About those fangs in the front of the mouth, that also portrays what kind of class of vampire Nosferatu are. (I know Nosferatu was the name of the vampire, but Nosferatu is also the class/type of vampire he is). And yes, I think fangs just grew and stayed out, a vampire wouldn't be able to retract them........they would need some pretty strong muscles and nerves under their face to do that. Plus, my fangs I would rather leave sticking out because it creeps people out and/or scares them..........I love creeping people out and making them think I'm weird or strange or CRAZY, cuz I hate the majority of people in this world, after working and having to deal with them for a year and in life, you kind of wish mass genocide on humans.........well, that's what I wish sometimes..............

Nosferatu is russian idiot why don't you look it up.

I think the teeth would have to be in a fixed position but I also think that they should grow so they can be re-sharpened. Think about it. You bite stuff and it wears down on your teeth. Even if only by a little bit. Supposing vampires are immortal, even that little bit of wear would eventually wear down their teeth quite a bit. So the teeth would have to grow to be sharpened. In fact I think that's kind of how vampires' teeth are formed. They grow after they have been "turned" and then they must be sharpened by the vampire. Very interesting topic by th way because I was just thinking about this the other day.

I have fangs. I didn't get an operation to make them they are just their. And people fear me because of them. and don't ask me how long they are. I'm not some loser without a girlfriend and do everything else i can to make myself happy. And even though i have fangs i don't use them i and go randomly biting inosent victims. If you want to know where i get my information i go to http://www.sanguinarius.org/ it a very good source for information for vampires.

I don't see you point on this subject if you don't have a beliefe in vampires why are you on this site.

Yes, indeed, sanguinarius.org IS a very good site, and I go to it often, but I also enlighten myself from this one site, I lost the URL, but it really helped me understand everything........here's a site that I refer to people to help them in their knowledge-seeking in 'real' modern-day vampires, like me: Real Vampires

Also, reapersofblood.org is a vampyre help site and a GREAT site for real vampires to meet, talk, and do other things in our vampiric nature..... ^_^ I will be venturing back and forth among the forum as much as I can since I am working and trying to find time to hang out with my friends........so until then, talk to anybody later.

thanks for the info and some more sites anatole although your "real vampires" link did not work but thank you anyway. And Rhuen i did not mean to offend you and i have difficulty comprhending some english so in your next post would you slow down thebig words, i just came from germany not so long ago. sorry for the inconviniance.

Shtotov, sorry if the link didn't work, it didn't for me at one time, but I tried to go to it again and it worked.........try it again, if it STILL doesn't work, then I will try something else.

Why has no one stated the obvious here? It's very likely that the term vampire...being associated with the drinking of blood...came from the Vampire Bat...which uses its NON retractable fangs (both top and bottom) to bite into its hosts and lap up the blood. Their saliva, like that of leeches, mosquitos and ticks, contains an anticoagulant to prevent the blood from clotting. Retractable fangs are a showpiece made by Hollywood. The vampire bat does not "drain" its victims....there is GALLONS of blood within the body...do u really think another creature roughly the same size or smaller could take so much blood into itself? And how long that would take considering that a swallow is at most a cupful in measure? It would likely take tops 20 min to "drink a person dry".

On a further note Vampire bats consume 50 to 100 percent of their body weight in blood. Common vampire bats feed to satiation within half an hour and then move away from their prey. Afterwards, their expandable stomachs are often so swollen they have a hard time flying. But blood is about 80 percent water, and the bats begin urinating immediately upon feeding. Often they will continue to rest and urinate at temporary roosts near their feeding site, until finally they are free of enough excess water to fly home to their main roost in a cave or hollow tree. On the flip side, the vampire bats amazing kidneys can also conserve water in much the same way as desert animals do, even though vampires live in moist climates. Because they previously dumped the water taken in with their blood meal, the vampire bats have to conserve water later on for digestion of the high protein portion of their meal which remains



Can you imagine a human vampire doing that...? <_<

Rheun...vampire bats have been around almost as long as humans. I think they came first. And Europeans knew about vampire bats long before the stories of vampires began to surface in Europe. If ur referring to the years after 1000 bc. Are u a language expert or historian that u can say what the EXACT translations of Russian or Slavic documents was? Or that ANY species/being that lapped up or drank the blood of another was not called or termed vampire? Are u forgetting the obvious fact that all the continents were once connnected in a land mass? That if u believe in the evolution of man that we all came from the same place? Historically, word of mouth and stories of such creatures carried down thru centuries. The Eqyptians had stories of Vampires... and they date back pretty far, being one of the biggest civilizations after Sumaria. Can u explain why Native Americans believed in a creature called Sasquach...the same one we call Bigfoot and that the ppl in Himalaya/Asia call Yeti? How come ppl in Europe knew about that before we went there? Becuz ppl and word of mouth TRAVEL. To assume that just becuz there was no official discovery of a country that NO ONE had ever gone there or come from there is BIASED. Boats have existed since Cro Magnon times. Lets not talk about history lessons and who is gonna be spammed. Frankly, ur rude. And Denier is right. Can us see vampires PISSING that much? really? and being able to run from persuit right after feeding or fit in their so called coffins? I don't hear anything in the HUGe history europe has of them about THAT!

in buffy and angel, the fangs come out when they are either angry or hungry.

do they brush their teeth?

Well when I was younger, I used to think that Vampire's teeth actually had a hairline hollow area from the point, up the inside, and into a network of veins which went into some kind of vampire digestive system. Don't ask me why I thought this... but I thought it's an interesting fresh look at it.
But if this theory was able to work in any way, the teeth would have to stay put, otherwise the hollow area wouldnt connect properly to the vein network. Yup.

No! Damn it!

First of all, you spelled belief wrong.

Second of all, it's our choice to believe in vampires. Just because were are on this site doesn't mean we actually believe. It could just mean we are interested in discussing vampire fiction or the slight chance that there really ARE vampires out there.

So... damn it!

a vampire only uses his teeth to rip a great big hole in their victim's neck. i don't think they come equipped with straws, lol.

cant rememeber who it was i was talking to who thought that vampires fangs had holes in them so they could suck up the blood. i was always under the impression that their fangs were so that they could get deep puncture wounds so enough blood came out.

My fangs are sharp enough to puncture skin! ^_^

oh i know a guy who hads his teeth sharpened is that what you had done or is it just naturally sharp cos i have seen peple who just have naturally long fang like teeth.

I have naturally long teeth but i think that vampire teeth grow because if they didn't there wouldn't be any real transformation.


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Every vampire story and movie that i've ever heard of always has the vampires grow their teeth.


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Obviously every vampire has to grow their teeth, because I doubt there's very many ppl out there who's teeth are able to peirce human flesh easily.

However up until reading this thread I believed that whatever it was that made the teeth grow during transformation also allowed for a new muscle structure to form along the upper jaw in order to retract the fangs. After all its not like the muscle structure in a cat's paws are overly large, so it would be entirely possible. Also if the fangs were retractable it would allow for a much cleaner puncture than having to use the momentum of the head to break the skin. A cat's claws come out with a lot of force and can be controlled. Hence there only being two small holes in a victims neck, not a huge gash.
Also, if a vampire has the ability to regenerate almost every part of their body, why wouldn't they be able to grow a new, small, muscle structure? ^_^

But now...I'm not so sure and the theory of the teeth merely being stimualted to keep growing also makes a lot of sense and is just as easy to believe as my original theory.

I'm not entirely closed on the drinking straw theory either. After all a snake's fangs are tiny and they have a passageway for their vennom......?

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My top teeth aren't very sharp yet look pointed from certain angles. My bottom teeth are pointed and semi sharp. Is that weird?


p.s. how do I get my top teeth sharped/ where can I go to get this done?